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    Guess my mate's ethnicity

    Here’s another one he just sent
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    Guess my mate's ethnicity

    That's the only other one I've got here, will get a clearer one tomorrow. I'm the black rectangle on the right, lol
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    Guess my mate's ethnicity

    He's an actor, not a royal wannabe :-) Eyes are brown.
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    GEDMatch GEDmatch Archaic Matches

    I'm new to Gedmatch so I'm not sure if I'm doing this right... When comparing my kit with archaic DNA kits, changing the threshold to 4cM, I get 4 "matches". Kit F99916 (Stuttgart) seems to be my closest match, followed by some kits from Hungary. A "one to one" autosomal comparison against...
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    FTDNA and 23andme results contradict GEDMATCH calculators - What am I missing?

    Evening folks I have used FTDNA before and recently got my 23andme results too. Up until this point everything makes sense, I seem to be more or less your typical Greek Mediterranean. FTDNA: 97% Mediterranean and the remaining 3% from here and there. A similar picture with 23andme...
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    Ancient Greek textiles closer to Near Eastern, Italian closer to Central European

    Analysis of Iron Age textiles indicates that during c. 1000 - 400 BC Italy shared the textile culture of Central Europe, while Greece was largely influenced by the traditions of ancient Near East In archaeological contexts, textiles are relatively rare finds, especially in Mediterranean Europe...
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    Facial Reconstruction of Mycaenean era (c.1500 BC) nobleman from ancient Greece

    :laughing: LOL, this man is Elias Psinakis and he has had more plastic surgeries than Dolly Parton :laughing:. I'm not sure if anyone (including him) remembers what his face originally looked like. Future anthropologists will certainly be baffled.
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    Facial Reconstruction of Mycaenean era (c.1500 BC) nobleman from ancient Greece

    I would say let's not spend too much time arguing about pigmentation. For all we know the choice of colours was based on a small ancient painting found in a 3500 year old grave, as well as on the opinion of the American archaeologists working on the site. It may not be 100% accurate. What is...
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    Facial Reconstruction of Mycaenean era (c.1500 BC) nobleman from ancient Greece

    The lack of colour can be confusing, as subconsiously it makes us perceive the white colour of the washed out marble as skin. I have seen reconstructions of ancient Greek busts and statues based on traces of pigmentation that survived. I was surprised to find that they looked more west Asian...
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    Facial Reconstruction of Mycaenean era (c.1500 BC) nobleman from ancient Greece

    Funnily, one of those "friends suggestions" that came up on my facebook today was this person from somewhere in Greece :laughing: :
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    Facial Reconstruction of Mycaenean era (c.1500 BC) nobleman from ancient Greece

    From a TV interview with the archaeologists in Greece this morning, it has been confirmed that he was indeed a high member of the aristocracy, as he was buried very close to the tombs of the Kings of Pylos. The multiple rings that were found with him depict images probably inspired by the...
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    Facial Reconstruction of Mycaenean era (c.1500 BC) nobleman from ancient Greece

    I am not denying this. What I objected to was the assumption that by the year 1500BC there was aristocracy and commoners that looked physically different from each other.
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    Facial Reconstruction of Mycaenean era (c.1500 BC) nobleman from ancient Greece

    Apart from the narrow distance between the eyes, the rest of his features would not look out of place in certain areas of Greece, especially in Arcadia in central Peloponisos where my father originates from. In terms of pigmentation he would definitely be too dark for a modern Greek, but we have...
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    Facial Reconstruction of Mycaenean era (c.1500 BC) nobleman from ancient Greece

    The Mycenaeans were basically the people of Homeric stories. Throughout the surviving literature they describe themselves as autochthonous, contrary to the following Dorians who speak clearly about a northern homeland ("northern" meaning in northern Greece near the area of Doris, not some place...
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    Facial Reconstruction of Mycaenean era (c.1500 BC) nobleman from ancient Greece

    The Mycenaeans were a complete people, not just a royal family. And who were those "commoners" exactly? The Pelasgians? How do you know that they had not also originated from the North? Blond people existed in ancient Greece just like they exist in modern Greece. I am red/blondish... My point is...
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    Facial Reconstruction of Mycaenean era (c.1500 BC) nobleman from ancient Greece

    What makes you think that nobility in ancient Greece had a northern appearance? There is nothing to indicate this except for the wishful thinking of certain 19th century German romanticists and some modern nordicists. I have visited virtually every museum in Greece and 95% of drawings, pottery...
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    Facial Reconstruction of Mycaenean era (c.1500 BC) nobleman from ancient Greece

    The face of a nobleman (possibly warrior/priest) who lived in Pylos, Greece, near the location of King Nestor's palace and around the same time period, has been reconstructed by scientists from the University of Cincinnati and presented during an event hosted by the American School of Classical...
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    New data from Greek & Anatolian Neolithic.

    A really interesting study carried out by the Univeristy of Mainz (Germany) in collaboration with the University of Thrace (Greece) http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2016/06/01/1523951113/suppl/DCSupplemental We have new data on neolithic individuals from Greece and Anatolia. G2a pops up...
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    New Faculty of Ancient DNA Studies - Greece

    A new faculty of Ancient DNA Studies has been established at the Institite of Molecular Biology and Biotechnology of the University of Crete. It will be the first in Greece and the 3rd in Europe. Hopefully we can expect new publications from ancient samples from Greece in the near future. News...
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    Ancient DNA from Greece

    A very interesing conference is taking place in Thessaloniki today, where the findings of a DNA analysis carried out on a number of samples from Neolithic/Bronze Age Greece are going to be revealed. So far the only information that has been released, mentions that the tested individuals were...
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