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    Distribution of G2a in Italy (Boattini et al.)

    it is a hotspot of G2a compared to neighboring areas of UK... and such a hotspot is a mark of a settlement wave.. based on a number of things (some explained in previous posts, some later in this one) i believe it is reasonable to link it to the spread of Cimmerians..... your assumption is...
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    Distribution of G2a in Italy (Boattini et al.)

    that's what i believed for years.... but if you look my posts above G2a settlements across Europe are marked with tribal group pattern: Umbrians, Ambiani, Kymris, Cymry and Garumna, which all is perfect match to Cimmerian / Gomerian tribal name pattern... while I2a has correspondence with...
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    Distribution of G2a in Italy (Boattini et al.)

    I think now that it may have been other way around.... that Cimmerians were G2a people and I2a has travelled with them in scope of Thraco-Cimmerian movement... note that archeological DNA from bronze age Thrace is I2a1... also note that I2a haplogroup tribal name is reflected in Sardinia, which...
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    Distribution of G2a in Italy (Boattini et al.)

    something more about italic Umbri http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbrians deluge might have been about Black sea deluge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis and we know that haplogroup G2a is very concentrated on edges of Black sea... so it may be that G2a people were the...
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    Distribution of G2a in Italy (Boattini et al.)

    I will add explanation for two G2a hotspots in locations on Atlantic coasts - one in southwest France and once in Belgium.. soutwest France hotspot judging by location could be legacy of tribe Garumna - which looks as tribal name of same source as Germani /Cimmerian the one in Belgium seems to...
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    Distribution of G2a in Italy (Boattini et al.)

    if this is comment to my post.... "Etruscans seems to had lacked G2a" = Etruscans seems to had no G2a (lack = miss, not have) I will now focus on Celtic connection G2a might have arrived in Europe in 7th-8th century BC with Thraco-Cimmerians Its the culture that origins in Coban culture (in...
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    Distribution of G2a in Italy (Boattini et al.)

    yes, exactly... Etruscans seems to had lacked G2a, which looks a bit strange considering a hotspot in Lydia - their place of origin, but that likely indicates that G2a spread to Lydia only after their departure... same is with Veneti, who origin in Paphlagonia... this indicates again later...
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    Pre-Germanic R1a in Western Europe?

    As you know I am proponent of idea that tribal names, as primary identity carriers of tribal people, do sometimes over-live language shifts and cultural changes.. if we look at R1a map in Iberia there are actually 2 hotspots of R1a...its wider area of Cantabria with one hotspot in the east...
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    Serbs and Croats origin from Germanic Scirii and Hirri?

    http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/26144-R1b-in-Europe-origins-mostly-from-Phrygians-and-Galatians
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    Serbs and Croats origin from Germanic Scirii and Hirri?

    author argues that Venedi were not proto-Slavic but have assimilated into Slavic.... i do not think they were celtic or germanic...could have been Balts.... if you look position of Venedi, Sclaveni and Anti, Venedi are mostly mapped to west Slavs Dalmil's chronicle does say that Czechs came...
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    Y-DNA haplogroups of ancient civilizations

    Varna region http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna
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    Serbs and Croats origin from Germanic Scirii and Hirri?

    this is saying exactly what I told you.... satem IE speakers Dacians and Thracians went to north where they merged with other satem people - south Balts and Sarmatians,,,,, except Sarmatians, those are various people from Venethi race as I pinpointed using Greek myth of Wind gods Anemoi/Venti...
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    Y-DNA haplogroups of ancient civilizations

    northern part of Sophia province, area around Sofia city, is the home of Serdi, Celtic tribe that got thracanized but the area has very little Celtic R1b Sophia province has 2.7% U152 and no other S116 and the Sofia city (earlier Serdica) has 1.7% of U152 and 3.4% of other S116 however it...
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    Serbs and Croats origin from Germanic Scirii and Hirri?

    if they disappear in year 300 AD, how do you connect them to Slavs that appear around 600 AD? Basternae 1 AD 100 AD 200 AD to go to times when they had large state in Carpatians, you need to go to years 250 BC to 200 BC [Schmidt, L. 1910 and 1911. Geschichte der deutschen Staemme. I...
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    Were the Croatians originally Slavic?

    Celtic? some interesting data about I2c haplogroup and theory about making of Slavs http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/26803-I2c-frequency-and-diversity-maps http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/28516-Serbs-and-Croats-origin-from-Germanic-Scirii-and-Hirri
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    Serbs and Croats origin from Germanic Scirii and Hirri?

    that's not what i am saying... i do not use name Slavs prior to 6th century..... i speak of pre-Slavic people..... and i follow Jordanes clue that they chiefly come from race of Venethi that is divided in many different nations and tribes.....i find in Greek myths a clue that this set of tribes...
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    Serbs and Croats origin from Germanic Scirii and Hirri?

    that's your assumption... look at map of R1a above and tell me: did R1a in France arrive with historic Slavs? now look at spread gradients in line from France to Italy... no historic Slavs were that much west except in Slovenia.... so if you are right, than north from borders with Slovenia...
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    why were I2a people exterminated in Italy and not in the Balkans ?

    exactly.... i think also that north corner of Adriatic was held by R1a people... and I2a took Danube path to central Europe.... not sure whether I2a1 and I2a2 could be split due to people of parent branch spending ice age in different refuge areas (that I2a1 came to existence in Iberia and...
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    Serbs and Croats origin from Germanic Scirii and Hirri?

    that's not what I meant... I do not claim that they were same as other Venethi... but that there was Venethi component that gave tribal name and that this component was more and more dilluted with orientation to italic people... keep in mind that venetic people (including Liburnians and...
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    I2c frequency and diversity maps

    regarding Carvetii in UK... after introducing link of I2c to Croats (Hrvati), it makes sense that it is tribal name related to Croat tribal name... btw. link to map of british tribes (the one with numbers) is: http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/british_prehistory/iron_01.shtml there is a...
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