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    R1b DF27 in Iberia

    I get those same matches, mine being just slightly more recent.
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    How did the Normans do it?

    Greetings. There’s a question (granted, it’s not the most original one) that has always puzzled me and to which I’ve never found a very convincing answer: how did the Normans subjugate England so quickly, so (relatively) easily, so thoroughly and with so few men? Of course Hastings was very...
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    Y-DNA of Iberians or descendants of recent Iberians

    Most likely a Northern Portuguese of Suebian patrilineal ancestry… or perhaps some Dutchman who ended up in Pernambuco in the 17th century.
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    MDLP White Brazilian (Me) - GEdmatch Results Eurogenes K13 and MDLP K16.

    You've written nothing but facts, Angela. Still, the concepts you're speaking of - i.e. whitening of the population, rigid classification and hierarchization of people based on phenotype and ancestry - are largely regarded as racist and obsolete in Latin America, whereas the one drop rule...
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    MDLP White Brazilian (Me) - GEdmatch Results Eurogenes K13 and MDLP K16.

    I am very much aware that it doesn't legally exist anymore, but it is still a major parameter and criterion for race relations in the US.
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    MDLP White Brazilian (Me) - GEdmatch Results Eurogenes K13 and MDLP K16.

    On a sidenote, we have an Albanian in the thread acting like he's an aristocratic plantation owner from Virginia. God bless the internet.
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    MDLP White Brazilian (Me) - GEdmatch Results Eurogenes K13 and MDLP K16.

    I wonder if the US will ever abandon the shockingly, openly racist "one drop rule", which essentially equates African ancestry with a stain that, in no matter how inexpressive of an amount, entirely spoils and negates a person's non-African ancestry. This view goes hand in hand with the rule...
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    Robert I of Scotland

    Judging by the Bruce Y-DNA Project, it appears that King Robert the Bruce could have belonged to R1b-S7432, which is right below DF27>ZZ12>ZZ41: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/bruce?iframe=yresults https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/bruce/about/goals...
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    DNA of Iberians from Europe

    The idea that Jews control Hollywood and that these Jews are on some kind of mission to cast certain types of actors, based on their phenotype, to deliberately "darken" a certain ethnicity (Italian-Americans, Spaniards etc), is classic Stormfront paranoia. Let's look at some Hollywood actors...
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    DNA of Iberians from Europe

    While I don't doubt that Nadal could possibly have some distant Jewish or Berber ancestry, I'm pretty sure that if he didn't spend God knows how many hours a day playing tennis under the sun, he would look exactly like his dad, who couldn't look more typically Greek, Spanish or Italian (Greek...
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    Puerto Rican Y DNA

    That's a rather high proportion of I1, especially if we consider that only about 90% of the Y-DNA in this study is of European origin (which means I1 makes up for about 7-8% of the European male lineages in Puerto Rico). Spain has only 1.5% I1 on average. The 16.5% of R-L21 stands out as well...
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    K12b North-African admixture in Europe (Dienekes K12b, 2012)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_whiteness_in_the_United_States#German_Americans "Large numbers of Germans migrated to North America between the 1680s and 1760s. Many settled in the English colony of Pennsylvania. In the 18th century, many persons of English descent harbored...
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    K12b North-African admixture in Europe (Dienekes K12b, 2012)

    Anyway, I think Angela is about to yell at us to get back on topic :laughing:
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    K12b North-African admixture in Europe (Dienekes K12b, 2012)

    Even Germans and Irish were considered non-white in the US at some point, lol. Apparently people in those days imagined that the English and Scots spontaneously sprang out of the soil in Great Britain, having no real link to the peoples on the continent (except for the ever-romanticized Vikings...
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    K12b North-African admixture in Europe (Dienekes K12b, 2012)

    LOL, I had a feeling that you would dramatically prove my point about that forum’s members on your following post. Don’t get all worked up, Joey C. Life isn’t some kind of contest about who has less melanin. Unless you’re a neonazi, of course. By the way, no country holds any monopoly over the...
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    K12b North-African admixture in Europe (Dienekes K12b, 2012)

    The posters on that "Italic roots" forum, oh dear. Jersey Shore meets Stormfront. They might as well post pictures of crowds in New Orleans after Katrina, or of the Baltimore riots, and claim these pictures as representative of the American population. It is notorious that the upper classes of...
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    K12b North-African admixture in Europe (Dienekes K12b, 2012)

    But what makes you think Arabs had more SSA admixture back then than they do today? What would have caused this "deafricanization" of Arabs in the Middle East? The Crusaders alone? Surely not. All logic and historical evidence indicate that Arabs have a stronger SSA element today, after their...
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    K12b North-African admixture in Europe (Dienekes K12b, 2012)

    Johannes, why does it seem so inconceivable to you that many Arabs, especially from the Levant, look no different from (southern) Europeans? Not every Arab is brown-skinned, curly-haired and hook-nosed, you know. Consider this: even today, when Syrians, Lebanese and Jordanians have around 5% SSA...
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    K12b North-African admixture in Europe (Dienekes K12b, 2012)

    That's true, but let's not forget that racism has never quite prevented "racists" (especially males) from having plenty of children - legitimate or not - with people of other races.
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    K12b North-African admixture in Europe (Dienekes K12b, 2012)

    "Arab" is as much of an umbrella term as "Latin", really. We all know there are black/mulatto Arabs in North Africa, Yemen, Saudi Arabia; there are Arabs from Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq who could easily pass for being European; and you have everything in between, all over the Arab world. We...
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