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I do not understand why that is significant? Can you explain?

Here is a quote from the wiki So L1029 would have been present among them. The Pomeranian Face Urn culture evolved from the Lusatian culture. West of the Pomeranian Face Urn culture was the Billendorfer culture you can read about here The Billendorfer culture also evolved from the Lusatian...

I'm talking about the lusatian culture, not lusitanian people. Here is a link for the Lusatian Culture: Here Perhaps you confused them with the Lusitanians? EDIT: There seems to be about 3-4 L1029 matches in Pomerania

M458 does show up in the regions you highlighted. That is, M458+ L260+. I wish I had 10 posts... then I could post pictures and links... :embarassed: L1029, however, seems to have a very little presence there, like you said. EDIT: so L260 is defiantly a sign of the slavic migration. L1029 not...

This is what the paper states: Palisto's r1a tree as well as R1a.og put it at 3000. so far there are two or three L1029 results in England.

Ohhh haha I was trying to find where the Pliny states where! All I could find was the historian so that makes sense now :grin: My point about the Masovains is that they did are not responsible for the introduction of L1029 into Poland. It would seem that L1029 has been in Poland for about 3000...

Sorry, but where are the Pliny States? I'm not familiar with it. The Masovains appear to have been a Lechite tribe that moved west with the Slavic migrations. L1029 would have been present among them, but would have already existed in the Masovain area prior to the Slavic Migrations.

L260 is completely absent in the British Isles. So I'm doubtful that L1029 can be attributed to the Pomeranian Slavs. And we do see a little L1029 in Southern Lands. Northern Italy has a hit. Also look at Bulgaria/Macedonia. The Ostrogoths settled there. Also, if we look at R1a we do know that...

That is what I was thinking as well. So my question is, if over the course of nearly 1000 years, L1029 was "turned German" in eastern Germany, then isn't it plausible that some L1029 found it's way into Denmark and the rest of Scandinavia with the migrating Germanic Tribes? If that is true, then...

L1029 is about 3000 years old... so it would have coexisted with L260 (that is 2000 years old) by the time of the Slavic expansions (just about 1500 years ago). I see no reason why only L1029 men would decide to move west, and all the L260 would just stay at home, only to move 200 years later...

The pictures you are showing are the same. L1029 (purple) is a subcalde of M458 (green), so it is included. You should be comparing L1029 with L260. L1029 and L260 both combine to make up the M458 branch. I would generally agree with you, that M458 is a good indicator of the Slavic expansion...

I've been reading on a few different forums that L1029, a subclade of M458, can be correlated with the expansion of the Lusatian Culture of 1300-700 BCE. (I can't post links, but if you google "update on L1029" it should be the first result). If that is true, then wouldn't a significant portion...