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    Do the Mordvins, Chuvash and Tatars descend from Carpathian Goths ?

    All publications and project data show that the proportion of Erzya R1a is significantly higher than that of Moksha: There are differences in the R1b. In Erzya mainly Eastern European Z2105+, then Moksha we do not see. And the biggest difference is in the presence of a significant percentage...
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    Do the Mordvins, Chuvash and Tatars descend from Carpathian Goths ?

    Data from other publications Tambets et al.(2004) Moksha (Staroshaygovsky District of Mordovia) n=83 R1a - 26,5% N3 (TAT) - 16,9% R1b - 13,3% I1 - 12% I2b - 4,8% N2 (P43) - 2,4% I2 - 2,4% K*(M9) - 1,2% NO (M214) - 0% N*(M231) - 0% N1 (M128) - 0% O (M175) - 0% J2 - nd E3b - 0% Malaspina et...
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    Do the Mordvins, Chuvash and Tatars descend from Carpathian Goths ?

    I edited the above message with the results for Moksha and Erzya in Trofimova 2015. Duplicate table:
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    Do the Mordvins, Chuvash and Tatars descend from Carpathian Goths ?

    In one of the earliest studies (Malaspina et al.) of the haplogroups was a fun bug there were listed: Moldovans-Moksha and Moldovans-Erzya. ))
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    Do the Mordvins, Chuvash and Tatars descend from Carpathian Goths ?

    Let's start with the fact that the words "Mordva/Mordvinians" in the language of Moksha and Erzya places without. ))
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    Do the Mordvins, Chuvash and Tatars descend from Carpathian Goths ?

    Easier to use self-designation: Moksha and Erzya, there will be no confusion with the Moldovans.
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    Do the Mordvins, Chuvash and Tatars descend from Carpathian Goths ?

    This incorrect data in the project who indicated which group. I am the administrator of the Erzya-Moksha DNA project (Mordovia project does not exist in principle). Erzya: I1-M253+ - 1 member (subclade undefined) I1-Z63+ - 2 member Moksha: not to members haplogroup I1 Russian (Ethnogroup Ryazan...
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    Do the Mordvins, Chuvash and Tatars descend from Carpathian Goths ?

    You have a strange limit on the links, I can not insert a table.
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    Do the Mordvins, Chuvash and Tatars descend from Carpathian Goths ?

    Firstly such people as Mordvinians does not exist. There Moksha and Erzya. Secondly you have bad data, that data separately for Moksha and Erzyan who provided the author publication (Trofimova):
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