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    R1b-M269>PF7562

    The user Arthwr has a made a map about R1b-PF7562 branch He compiled data from academic papers and got this numbers Kosovo - 9/114 (7,89 %); Macedonia - 4/79 (5,06 %); Albania - 11/223 (4,93 %); Serbia - 7/235 (2,98 %); Armenia - 5/176 (2,84 %); Cyprus - 16/574 (2,79 %); Lezgins - 1/41 (2,44...
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    Genetic origin of modern Armenians

    Alan You hurry too much with conclusions. There is no aDNA from Eastern Turkey and North Mesopotamia. There is only some MB/LB/IA from the peripheral side of modern Republic Armenia. I use the word peripheral because from archaeological points of view those places were different from Ararat...
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    J1 Sarmatians in Beslan

    A new update. This is the map with samples asked to Afanasiev. https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z6AHBTuUfQao.kwOSocRsvcoo&usp=sharing So the North Ossetia Beslan is confirmed.
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    J1 Sarmatians in Beslan

    Alan In the Y DNA table there is a mention of Beslan. Some additional information.
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    Role of recent admixture in last 1500 years

    Nice to see that they continue to improve their method. For the Armenians confirmation of earlier studies and historically attested events. After the collapse of Armenian kingdoms there was a population flow to East Caucasus, West Caucasus and Turkey ( islamisation of Armenians ). Also some...
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    Saltovo-Mayaki Results

    The two aDNA marked Sarmatians are J1. Age: 2nd - 3rd century AD. They are from Beslan, North Ossetia.
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    Ancient Genomes suggest Basque are descended of Late Neolithic Iberians

    Fire Haired I see what You say. I don't mean an expansion of Germanic, I mean the split. For the split some space is needed. A relatively isolated place is needed and big distance from neighbouring other IEs to exclude any convergence. I think the big problem for L51>L11 to be linked to IE...
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    Ancient Genomes suggest Basque are descended of Late Neolithic Iberians

    Btw. Why the more earlier than expected apparition of R1b-L51 in West Europe is viewed as a problem for his link to IE. Wasn't it expected something like this based on the age estimates of Celtic, Italic and Germanic by David Anthony? Germanic 3300BC Italic 3000BC Celtic 3000BC...
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    Teasers: Anatolians of 6300 BC Y DNA G2a, ancestral to EEF

    War is not a one sided thing. With more or less equal technology the invading male has approximatively the same chances to be killed than to kill. All that history from antiquity to medieval time show that wars don't change much the Y DNA frequency. Of course it change but no so dramatically...
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    Teasers: Anatolians of 6300 BC Y DNA G2a, ancestral to EEF

    Of course there was contacts in Eurasia, but that contacts are not sufficient to have the same level of immunity all across Eurasia. The best example is the Black Death that decimated the half of medieval European population. There was other cases in Late antiquity in Near East. Exact. But...
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    Teasers: Anatolians of 6300 BC Y DNA G2a, ancestral to EEF

    Maciamo Well generally I agree with Your explications about why some old lineages get extinct but there are also others events that happen when two different groups contacts. When Europeans first contacted with Aztecs, more than a million native Americans died just because they had no...
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    Ancient Genomes suggest Basque are descended of Late Neolithic Iberians

    This is the PCA of ATP3 Here it is marked as Spain_CA https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQY2R2XzktRXZhUWs/view?usp=sharing He is among Spanishs! Most probably it could have some ANE.
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    Ancient Genomes suggest Basque are descended of Late Neolithic Iberians

    Alan But according to Genetiker who found this R1b ( it was absent from the study ) the ATP3 has a Caucasian admixture. BTW the paper also lacks an admixture run for ATP3. Maybe it was considered too low coverage. I agree with You that R1b is old. So they could have different admixtures in...
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    Ancient Genomes suggest Basque are descended of Late Neolithic Iberians

    There is no data about H2 in India. There are H2 in England, France, Sweden. Also Sardinia. One Armenian from Turkey, and an Assyrian from Iran. Also 3 person from Kuwait/Qatar. H2 is the F-M282 https://www.familytreedna.com/public/F-YDNA/default.aspx?section=yresults The split between H2 and...
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    Ancient Genomes suggest Basque are descended of Late Neolithic Iberians

    H2 is not Gypsy, Indian H is in H1 H2 is the ex F3-M282
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    Genetics confirm migration of White Croats to Croatia

    BTW on Russian forums the study was criticized for not being much informative. Not answering important questions related to the location of Proto-Balto-Slav homeland also their probable Y DNA-s.
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    Genetics confirm migration of White Croats to Croatia

    Here is a admixture plot K2-K20 http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/asset?unique&id=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0135820.s003 and here is the PCA source
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    Genetics confirm migration of White Croats to Croatia

    LeBrok Yes of course the more southern they moved then more denser was the native population. Also it seems that Carpathes (Romania) served as a refugium for EEF. Tomenable It would be interesting to look at a K20 admixture run where Serbs and Bosniacs are present. But I doubt that this...
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    Genetics confirm migration of White Croats to Croatia

    hrvat The recent study on Slavic people shows that the differences between Serbs, Croats and Bosniacs are very small not to say non-existant. The small difference is only the slight increase of EEF when going to South and that has much to do with geography than other issues.
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    Cardial aDNA from Spain - 7400 ybp

    New aDNA from Spain. http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2015/09/02/molbev.msv181.abstract
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