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  1. A Norfolk L-M20

    haplogroup L, the rarest in Europe

    Well some related Y-DNA HG L may, just may, have passed through the Indus Valley Civilisation. It could have travelled with the Iranian Neolithic Farmers.
  2. A Norfolk L-M20

    haplogroup L, the rarest in Europe

    After several years of thinking on this, my favourite hypothesis is a medieval Asian sailor leaving his DNA in a South coast port such as Southampton. There are two families in southern England that share the same L. During C18 the two surname lines were only 34 miles apart in the area of...
  3. A Norfolk L-M20

    L = Indus people?

    L no. Maybe an L1a Clade.
  4. A Norfolk L-M20

    What DNA tests have you done?

    Ft-DNA Family Finder. Full mtDNA Sequence Y111 Big Y Big Y data also analysed at FGC and YFull. 23andme. Phased with one parent. Living DNA. My Y is L1b2c or L-FGC51036 via L +M20 + M22 +SK1412 +SK1414 +FGC51036. My mtDNA is H6a1a8. My auDNA is European, NW European. It is atypically...
  5. A Norfolk L-M20

    haplogroup L, the rarest in Europe

    Have you joined the Y Haplogroup L project on FT-DNA and talked to it's administrator Gareth yet? I really would.
  6. A Norfolk L-M20

    haplogroup L, the rarest in Europe

    Again, I respect your views, but none of the times look correct for a European Neolithic hypothesis. L-L595 (ISOGG 2016 = L2) is mysterious, and only found very rarely, spread across Europe including Sardinia (actually, I think one has been found in Western Asia). L-M349 (ISOGG 2016 = L1b1) is...
  7. A Norfolk L-M20

    What is your y-haplogroup?

    Y haplogroup L. My path L+M20+M22+M317+SK1412+SK1414. 117 novel SNPs. My terminal SK1414 is shared with a Baluchi speaking guy in Makran SW Pakistan. My nearest 111 STR marker comes from Birjand, Eastern Iran. I'm English with only English known ancestry.
  8. A Norfolk L-M20

    haplogroup L, the rarest in Europe

    But most European L1b's including particularly the Rhine-Danube cluster of M317, also test positive for M349. I don't. My nearest 111 marker STR is in Eastern Iran. My terminal SNP is has only previously been recorded in SW Pakistan in a Balochi speaker. I share STR's in England with another...
  9. A Norfolk L-M20

    haplogroup L, the rarest in Europe

    Where I am so far. Big Y completed. Waiting for BAM file. Turned out that I had 90 novel SNPs, and terminate L-SK1214. The only other known SK1214 being from a study in SW Pakistan. i last shared common ancestry with the Pontic Greek L1b's 13,000 years ago. The Y haplogroup L phylogenetic...
  10. A Norfolk L-M20

    haplogroup L, the rarest in Europe

    ... and now that I have my Big Y results, that might just fit. I had 90 novel SNPs. My terminal SNP is L SK1214, believed to have been tested in Iran or Iraq. My nearest Y matches are Pontic Greek, but our TMRCA is 13,000 ybp. Yes, that's right the nearest other Big Y tester to me at the...
  11. A Norfolk L-M20

    Recent Natural Selection in British populations

    I do feel that it might be a little presumptuous to assume that the British were less blonde and blue eyed previous the the 5th Century AD. We really don't yet know what sort of migrations and admixtures took place in SE Britain before then. POBI suggested that it detected a major late...
  12. A Norfolk L-M20

    haplogroup L, the rarest in Europe

    Yes, I'm familiar with the hypothesis that L may be connected to early Neolithic Farmers. Without any supportive evidence from ancient DNA so far. It is what it is. One of the problems of having a rare haplogroup, is that I'm unlikely to meet any close cousins, and knowledge about it is very...
  13. A Norfolk L-M20

    haplogroup L, the rarest in Europe

    Hi, I'm Y haplogroup L M20. A bit of a shock. I have well recorded English only ancestry. My surname line I've only managed to trace back to the Thames Valley to circa 1720s. No idea how the L got in there or when. 23andMe test proved me positive at M317, but negative to M349, which leaves...
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