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Nice to see another roman J2L70. As I've been stating for sometime now, this subclade indeed played a relevant role on the roman empire expansion. It is found, on roman times, besides Italy, on Western or Eastern Roman Limes.

One of them should be the Mycenaean J-L70 from the Peloponnese.

Thanks Granzon. I also made a quick analysis of the JL70's samples. We urgently need to know more details regarding the origin and age of the samples, to compare properly their Autosomal, and draw further conclusions, considering the geographical area of their burial and historical/archeological...

There are many J2-L70 on the last published paper. Although we are still gathering all the information to have further details, it seams that one of the ancient Myceanean samples in the Peloponnese corresponds to a J2-L70, as it was suggested sometime ago. This would confirm that this subclade...

There are many J2-L70 on the last published paper. Although we are still gathering all the information to have further details, it seams that one of the ancient Myceanean samples in the Peloponnese corresponds to a J2-L70, as it was suggested sometime ago. This would confirm that this subclade...

There are many samples under J2-L70. Although the information is still difficult to process , it seams the Miceanean J2 L70 is among the published ancient samples!!

Interesting to find J2-L70 among Maniots as well, as it is found on may other Greek regions, specially on the islands. Although is only a 2%, under J-Z2117. Still waiting for new ancient samples under this clade, the oldest one we have published until now, was found on a roman early Imperial...

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Hi Jovialis, any haplogroups?

Thanks for your answer. I'm not indeed an expert, as I have a degree in law and business, so my statement is related to some scientific discussion I've read about this matter, and I'm not able to rebate, with well grounded arguments, what you just said. Although, I would like to underline, once...

Just one brief comment, Y Dna is around 2% of the total DNA of an adult male not 0,5%, and is essential for the characteristics inherited from father to son.

We need classic greeks Ydna, and more Myceaneans and Bonze age greek samples to have further answers. The claims on X probably aimed to insult greeks.

Indeed, the other recent roman L70 sample, from the german Limes (Leiden, Netherlands) from early imperial times, also shows that they were one of the most relevant roman haplogroups everywhere in the Empire. Hopefully on the new paper that should be published soon, with samples from Magna...

Nice to see another Roman J2L70, now on Hispania (Lucerna) with the ID: I37207

Regarding ancient J2L70 samples, Yfull just added a new one from a roman burial in the Netherlands, close to the Limes germanicus, https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Z45235/ . It is dated about 150 AD, and autosomally resembles southern Italians, or Imperial romans, with an Anatolian Bronze Age...

Hi Granzon, thanks for shearing this interesting exchange of views on the Serbian forum. We've been discussing the origin on this clade for some years now on this Forum. We haven't got yet an ancient sample that could clear the origin of J2L70. The oldest sample we have, until now, is the Urbino...

Absolutely true Italouruguayan

It's a difficult question to answer. We haven't got yet enough evidence to relate J2L70 to any specific civilization, and as I stated some time ago, is indeed relevant to analyze the difference between JL70's subclades, due to its age. Although, what we know is that J2L70's were found on roman...

Hi Aleror747, do you have any further subclade for your paternal JL70? regards

Is interesting to confirm the presence of J2 Z387 (J2a1a1b2a1b PF5427) and J2 Z423 (J2a1a1b2a1b1b~ Z423 ) in Western Anatolia (Kessab and Urfa), both clades related to J2 L70.