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An interesting discussion started in the thread dedicated to Minoan and Mycenean origins, so let's continue in a more focused manner here. What can Y-DNA data tell us about affinities between proto-Albanian and proto-Romanian and the regions where their speakers might have lived? There seems to...

Wow! I didn't know seeing a flag could trigger such hysteria. I won't waste my time here anymore.

More like since 1832. But it does not matter. You can still contrast arguments without personalized attacks. No need to rationalize what you perceive as bias. If you are right, present your case more convincingly.

Autosomal PCA plots don't mean much unless you have a very detailed record of ALL the populations that lived in a region and all around it at different moments in time. This is why authors are so careful to only forward limited claims which the data can support. No one can guarantee, for...

Thank you. I don't know a lot about etymology, but I see you are saying that PIE "g" became "dh". For this to mean that the "Bardh" of today was "Barg" at 400 BC, two scenarios have to be excluded. First, assuming your "g">"dh" argument is true, it might be that the Dardanians had already been...

I'm trying to understand what you wrote. Can you provide some more info that is easy to understand for people who can't read those symbols? For example, today Bardhe is pronounced B-A-R-DH (E is almost silent) B - Bob A is similar to - "pluck" or "up" but more similar to Boston accent -...

Much of the "bias" comes from how ethnicity is defined and perceived. Being Greek Orthodox and writing in Greek has usually sufficed for Greek historians to label a person or a people as Greek. This is a pretty loose definition for others in the Balkans who believe native language and ethnic...

That link didn't even work for me. Anyway, I think he was just saying that he knew about that study of the Tuzla region and found no BY611. So here is the one haplotype I was talking about, in comparison to the ser-7, which was already known. As you can see, it is identical to him in those few...

I am opening this thread because this R1b-BY611>Z2705 has seen many changes recently and it's place of origin and subsequent expansion growing more and more interesting. The question I want to discuss is: Where did the ancestor of all Z2705 live? For anyone who hasn't followed the recent...

My friend just got her 23andme and Ancestry results back and she is not very clear on the interpretation they offered. I am trying to place her in a graph similar to this: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fc2W-6tR-HA/Urigqts3hwI/AAAAAAAAJbg/hqZiV1TOGgc/s1600/europe.png , but I don't know how. Can...

Would you like to quote my most outrageously erroneous statement Angela?

Please quote one single thing I said which you can show to be wrong.

Answer my question please. You said I made errors, show me one.

My last post didn't concern your views at all. I only said you posted a link of the Encyclopedia and the Encyclopedia is wrong on one point. I did not say you endorse that particular point so honestly I don't even know why you felt you needed to reply to that. I said you posted the link, which...

Unfortunately I don't remember exactly who said what and the posts have been deleted, but someone said it, someone even had a map, I remember Yetos had another map claiming to represent the proto-Greek area, then Angela cited the Encyclopedia Britannica, which stated that Epirus was settled by...

They hypothesized the Mycenean base for sustaining the colony was either Aitoloakarnania or Pylos. Yes, and my point was that it was a colony, Epirus was not Mycenean just as China was not British simply because of one colony. I am not trying to argue that the Mycenean civilization had no...

Yes but without capturing the city they couldn't enforce their tariffs on the passing trade between Europe and India.

I agree on the industrial revolution, Renaissance and the banking system, but all of them had existed before in different forms. The main date for me is 1453, the capture of Costandinople. That drove European powers to seek ways to India, which led to the "discovery" of America, which brought...

That part is in the book, page 212. For a short summary, look at the sentence that starts with "To summarize...", here...

I was more interested in the Neolothic part of the discussion, which I believe relates to the origins of Myceneans, but thanks for opening this anyway. Both the sources you provided explicityly state Epirus was not Mycenean. On pages 210-212, especially the summary on page 212, the book says...