For what it's worth, when it comes to Switzerland, this study has the Ticino province as having the highest rate of U152, with just over half the males tested.
An internet friend from Emilia Romagna province who's interested in the topic responded to the idea I shared that most 4th Century Gallic invader populations were driven out of the Po Valley/Italy.
Translated from Italian so a bit hard to read but:
I really don't know why people keep bringing up "Germanic in North Italy" unless we're talking about certain rather remote Alpine regions. Unless I'm somehow completely wrong I'm pretty sure it's been rather well-established that the Germanic contribution to the whole of North Italy is minimal...
Well, actually not Norman. Washington's Pedigree apparently goes back to a Scottish Abbott of Dunkeld in the 1000s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%ADn%C3%A1n_of_Dunkeld
A clade one-step deeper actually, I just found out. It's R-BY32422
https://www.cell.com/iscience/fulltext/S2589-0042(24)00574-1?fbclid=IwAR3_-7o9WPSvOHuEuP9XrWoy3GzSyXn9NrdU_iuV-Gin4iSNoZXx5i9bckQ_aem_AZrp4B_Qo_Jb790kB_8ZwEVRD08NF0hwLCz5KhXWYF3MCU9WwEoBkyMfjDwtqaIzidfX8bJuf5Pq5lXsuPo34dxo
Given the Norman-originated surname of Washington I'm not too surprised. Might be from Hallstatt, La Tene, or Roman movements to Northern France and subsequently Britain around 1066.
At least one Norman family, the Fitzrandolphs, are very possibly paternal descendants of Romans...
A few U106 samples were found among ancient Gauls from what I recall. There may have been low proportions of U106 in previous "Italo-Celtic" populations stemming from Unetice or Tumulus that made their way into Italy later on. Oldest U106 was found in Bohemia after all.
The social, political and economic conditions during the late republic caused by the Samnite Wars, Punic wars, and social wars, combined with the expulsion of many Gauls from the Po Valley, left something of a vacuum in said region. A vacuum that the city of Rome could not fill itself due to...
A lot of them at least. Maybe not all.
And of those ones, they were of the 5th-4th Century BCE invading tribes, not the already long-established ones further North (Lepontics, Insubres, etc...)
You might need a Jstore account to access, but here's an old 1930s article about epigraphic evidence that following the expulsion of Gauls from Gallia Cisalpina, the Later Republican Po Valley was resettled in large part by Samnites.
THE SAMNITES IN THE PO VALLEY
By D. O. Robson
University of...
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it'd be good to launch a crusade against any such notion that the "North Picene" language (as based on this seemingly recently debunked "corpus") even exists. I keep hearing it being brought up occasionally and I'm thinking it ought to be...
People keep talking about the supposed "Non-Italic" so-called "North Picene" language but... I think it's dubious at best based on this, you would think?
South Picene, which is a much more reliably attested language, is in-fact Italic. Hopefully this will clear up misinfo...
I still wonder if "Proto-Italic" is even a thing and if Latin-Faliscan and Osco-Umbrian even come from the same supposed cluster/merger of different elements (in this case potential Yamnaya-Bell Beaker mergers, creolization etc...) but I suppose it's possible as some scholars think, while others...
Haven't Indo-Iranians been in the Fertile Crescent since the Middle Bronze Age at the latest? Mitanni, Kassites, etc...? Though I'm unsure how much Q these people would have carried with them.
If anything the Iberian affinity may be due to two factors, one being a general "West-Med" affinity stretching from parts of ancient Italy, the Western Alps through to Portugal, and the other due to what I'm guessing is actual migration and gene flow from the Western Alpine regions across...
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