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  1. Archetype0ne

    Genetic study A genomic history of the North Pontic Region from the Neolithic to the Bronze Age

    To be fair I do not see any evidence of extinction of the Early Yamnaya, at least in Albania. We see continuity of PF7563, Z2103 and L283 from the BA to today. I also do not see Albania in the Aegean sphere, if anything the very movement into the Aegean Sphere came from the north, be them Logkas...
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    Genetic study The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

    Luckily they did model it in a note: But yeah this Aknashen population seems fascinating.
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    Genetic study The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

    The thing is they are differentiating the CHG related ancestry. The CHG that far north was quite ancient source wise from HG themselves, so the Progress profile was quite common from the Volga group all the way to the Dnieper group, spanning the whole cline already by this point. The CHG that...
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    Genetic study The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

    Quite a lot to digest and warp ones head around. Edit: That was from the supplement where they go more in deatil. This below is from the paper itself. David Anthony vindicated or what? TLDR: Also gotta love that Kotias Klde is directly referenced as to how long unadmixed Caucasian HG were...
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    Genetic study The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

    Wait, Nalchik? This same Nalchik? The green dot is the L283 fully Caucasian sample BTW. Although same location it seems the older Nalchik graves have not been excavated for aDNA. From the supplements of The Genetic Origin of Indo-Europeans: Now from this other source: The Eneolithic...
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    Genetic study The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

    @Olympus Mons Do we know where the painting of the deceased in red ochre stems from? From Progress 2: https://plos.figshare.com/articles/figure/Eneolithic_burial_Progress_2_Grave_37_i_in_situ_i_/13091228 From the L283 Yamnaya sample: Edit: It seems to have been mainstream in Yamnaya...
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    Genetic study The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

    This foreshadowing from Patterson, a co-author two years ago: Quite a big paper indeed.
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    Genetic study The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

    Could you please provide a source, this is quite interesting.
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    Genetic study The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

    Given that we find quite a lot of J2a branches from the CHG ancestral components to the CLV, and that we find L283 in the descendant components of CLV (Phase 3: Core Yamnaya). While we find both fully Progress-like J2a and J2b in the Caucasian HG in Kotias Kilde 10kbp, I think its a good bet to...
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    Genetic study The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

    Interestingly we do have some supporting evidence on this: Furthermore we know that NEO281 and KK1 not only lived in the same cave roughly 10kbp in Kotias Klde, but they also shared the same maternal haplogroup, and ancestry: Thanks to Polska and Trojet for doing most of the hard lifting...
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    Genetic study The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

    I believe this might have something to do with the L283:
  12. Archetype0ne

    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    Aye mate, I've read enough of your gibberish over the past few years, do me a favor and go and read the paper now.
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    You will find them in South Germany, LBA onwards at the earliest probably around the Rhine, if these people took the Danube all the way to its source then had a walk North West. I could conceive of that, but that is only going to be a fraction of the L283 progenitors in the region, as IMO the...
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    Oh!! We are moving on to other research questions now huh? Makes sense, since that* one is all but done and dusted. Fine by me! We can start by analyzing the paper and which of the three dry-steppe waves L283 was part of. But it seems that is answered by the authors... hmm... Core Yamnaya...
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    J2b2-L283 (proto-illyrian)

    I thought we set out the falsification criteria long ago? We still arguing, then we talk about delulu and cognitive dissonance. Lets face it you had one toe to stand on, the autosomals of the low coverage Nuragic samples. In one week we get 1/500 L283 in BA-IA France and Germany...
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    Genetic study The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

    "Pre-Indo-Anatolian languages were spoken by at least some of these diverse ancestors, but living Indo-European languages trace their ongins to the Yamnaya expansion ca. 3300BCE out of (3) and the earlier Indo-Anatolian expansion ca 4400-4000BCE out of (1) Dripro"
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    Genetic study The Genetic Origin of the Indo-Europeans

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.04.17.589597v1 " Abstract The Yamnaya archaeological complex appeared around 3300BCE across the steppes north of the Black and Caspian Seas, and by 3000BCE reached its maximal extent from Hungary in the west to Kazakhstan in the east. To localize the...
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