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@eupator i ran the f3 comparisons: with the HO dataset, sorted from the most similar population to least: pop1 pop2 pop3 est se z p Mbuti Greece_BA_Mycenaean Sardinian 0.0692 0.000538 129 0 Mbuti Greece_BA_Mycenaean Italian_North 0.0686 0.000534...

Use no 2, it says it's similar to f2/fst, but less sensitive to population size.

No, you got it wrong. I'm away from my PC, i found your thread interesting, and I just recommended you try out f3 as well, and compare it to fst. No need to get admixtools1 involved, it's pretty much the same as admixtools2, just less user friendly.

Admixtools 2 is still pretty much the same as 1. It just runs in R instead of cmd, and has some options for faster running. Output of a f3 run should be the same in versions 1 and 2. That qoute says all other calculations (f3, f4, qpadm...) are based on f2, it doesn't mean you should use only f2.

It's mentioned that f3 is used for measuring shared drift vs. an outgrouop. In practice this is sometimes used for generating similarity lists, similarly as f2 and fst are used. For example here the image B...

Maybe it's because Albanians and Mycenaeans both have a lot of Balkan EEF (GRC_N, ROU_N). In South Italians it's predominantly western EEF (Iberia_N). It can be seen in G25.

Here's my 2 cents: Fst is sensitive to different sample sizes and data types. Try out f3 with Mbuti or Neanderthal as an outgroup instead, it should be immune to this.

I'm sure those historians aren't biased at all :rolleyes2: the modern Serb identitiy formed in the 1400s, centered around the Kosovo myth and anti-Ottomanism. this is recorded in many historical sources. for example, Benedikt Kuripečič noted the widespread Kosovo myth among the Serbs in his...

interesting. Serbs from East Herzegovina are usually like you but with 2 points more NA or Baltic. Croats from Mostar and West Herzegovina are different, they always have at least 30 Baltic, some have up to 37. Bosniaks can be in both clusters it seems. this is a Bosniak from Mostar: #...

could you post your Eurogenes k13 results? it's hard to find Herzegovina Bosniak results. I believe those "Bosnians" are Muslim Bosniaks from Sarajevo and Zavidovici from the study "Standing at the Gateway to Europe - The Genetic Structure of Western Balkan Populations Based on Autosomal and...

if somebody has a working gedmatch kit number of any of these samples please share it! 19651 CAN_BigBar_5700BP 0LS10_1 Baltic_EST_IA 0LS11_1 Baltic_EST_BA A460 CHL_Ayayema_5100BP Aconcagua ARG_Aconcagua_500BP AED_106 DEU_MA AED_1108 DEU_MA_ACD AED_1135 DEU_MA AED_249 DEU_MA...

gedmatch kit HZ6868325 mdlp k23b oracle eurogenes k15 oracle Why does this sample get so different results on these oracles? is one of them completely wrong?

it's all CL23, different versions. i checked now, the first 2 are duplicates and they are better quality, the 3rd one has a lower quality

that kit is CL36 and it's a "central Roman" CL23 is a medieval Iberian from around 670 ad and these are his kits: SZ4327468 UU5731879 HJ3323373

Salento there is a couple of otzi samples of different quality, but they are called "iceman" or "tyrolean iceman". i didn't check which one has the most SNPs.

somebody confirm is it the same for MyHeritage?

mha it's F999924

the archaic dna matches tool on gedmatch is back. i wish they added new samples.

[email protected] enter your k36 results here to generate the map https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

[email protected] your and american colonist's k36 results are 82% identical. he is the closest to modern day north germans. you are the closest to north germans, but also to the english and scottish people.