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It shouldn't be too hard. If you know who he is, don't spoil it for others.
I like those guessing games, but I'm not particularly good at it so sometimes I just don't dare to venture a guess. I would have said Southern Italian or Spanish, and Greek seems right too. I wouldn't have said Turkish, or maybe Turkish from the West coast. I've been to Turkey several times and I think men (especially on the Eastern part of Turkey, and those with Kurdish origins) generally have "tougher" looks and more angular features, with somewhat fierce deep set eyes. This guy looks more latino (as in "latin lover") to me - though seen in profile, I can see the Turkish in him.
You shouldn't. It's just for fun.
As I said, my husband thought he looked Southern Italian in that first picture with his wife, who is also Turkish, but where he has a beard and darker hair he joined me in saying he looked more Greek Islander or something.
In post 6 I speculated that perhaps there's a lot of variety in Turkey. Did you find that, i.e. western Turkey and Istanbul versus the east or southern Turkey?
I'd definitely be more interested in the places where a lot of the men look like Engin Akyurek! As people say, "you can always look"; no harm in that.
I really do want to see Istanbul and the ancient sites but I'm afraid given Ertegun and his changes. Did you go before or after him?
The guy above has for me "the" typical Turkish look. He was gorgeous, a waiter at our table, it was in Western Turkey close to the seaside I think. Pic was taken more than 25 years ago so I don't think he'll mind Still, those pics being personal, they have a limited shelflife here One of our friends in our group wanted to take a pic of us together because we kinda had the same eye color. But his eyes were lighter, striking green. I've not visited many countries but lots of Turkish people have absolutely stunning eyes… blue and green with beautiful shades.
This one below, taken at the same place. Sorry for the bad quality and the graininess:
This one below, still on the Western part. Guy had light hair and a more European type:
The guys on the top right corner are Turkish, as well as the one on the bottom left:
This one was taken in Cappadocia. Guy was gorgeous too:
This one below, still on the Western part. A man and his child (or grandchild?):
I have many more pics but they're at my Mom's place. On the Western and Southern coast you have many Greek-like (?) types. On the South East, they look West Asian or Arabic, near the Armenian border and on the Northern part you have many blonde/fair haired people. Overall, young men are quite handsome. But yeah, it's really diverse - Kurdish, Greeks, Armenian, Syrian types close to the border, etc.
It's a gorgeous country with so many great sites. We saw Nemrut Dagi, Mount Ararat, Istanbul, Ephesus, Aspendos, Sumela monastery… you name it. When I feel motivated, I'll ask my Mom to bring her photo albums and I'll scan some more pics of all the wonders we saw.
Angela said:It used to be culture shock for me when I would come home from Italy to JFK airport. I'd instantly go from being the center of attention to every man 9-90 in eyesight to feeling a bit neglected. Once, my cousin, with whom I often traveled, said: "What's wrong with the men?"
Lol, I know the feeling. Never had much success in France, but my trips to Turkey boosted my self-esteem. It's me in the first pic and then the one in Cappadocia, dancing with the guy. Such a long time ago. Turkish guys are certainly very handsome, but personality and education-wise, it's a no-no. The culture clash is too big. Once we were in Van on the Eastern part, and my girl friend and I spotted a very good-looking young man so as we were young and silly, we chatted him up and took some pics with him - nothing wild or anything, it was all very mild, but still it was enough to turn the guy's head. He showed up at our hotel at night and asked to "buy" us and bring us back home with him. Thanks but no thanks!
Does he?
Did you know they were Turks? I mean, they were speaking Turkish or something?
The Turks I run into in NYC, and even the men in the few families who bought into my neighborhood, look more like this:
I don't know if it's more actual "Turkic" in them or maybe some of them come from closer to the Levant or what.
There must be a lot of variety in Turkey. Maybe some of them are more Greek and some more Iranian looking?
I'm dying to do a tour of all the sites there, particularly from the Classical/Christian Era, but I'm doubtful now that Ertegun has so much power.
When I said he looked like a Greek Islander, I meant someone like Mihalis Kampourakis, who might be from Cyprus? Sorry, I used to work in advertising when I was fresh out of university, and still talk about it with old friends.
The ones in the group photo look very Turkic. Most of the Turkish people I have met were from either Istanbul or Izmir so they looked like Greeks or Southern Italians or Spanish. Mihalis Kambourakis sounds Cretan because of -akis last name ending. There are some general rules about name endings and place of origin:
-akis: Cretan
-ou: Cypriot
-opoulos: Peloponnese & Mainland
-idis: Greek from Pontus and Eastern Thrace
-oglou: Izmir and Cappadocia
These are not hard and fast rules, there are exceptions. For example, my mother's village were all given names that ended with -akis even though they came from Eastern Thrace because the army sergeant that registered them during the exchange of populations between Greece and Turkey was Cretan. I have no idea what their last name was before then. I could pay a genealogist that would go and search the bishoprics' archives, the Patriarchate of Constantinople and the tax authority archives I guess.
Does he?
Did you know they were Turks? I mean, they were speaking Turkish or something?
The Turks I run into in NYC, and even the men in the few families who bought into my neighborhood, look more like this:
I don't know if it's more actual "Turkic" in them or maybe some of them come from closer to the Levant or what.
There must be a lot of variety in Turkey. Maybe some of them are more Greek and some more Iranian looking?
I'm dying to do a tour of all the sites there, particularly from the Classical/Christian Era, but I'm doubtful now that Ertegun has so much power.
When I said he looked like a Greek Islander, I meant someone like Mihalis Kampourakis, who might be from Cyprus? Sorry, I used to work in advertising when I was fresh out of university, and still talk about it with old friends.
My first thought was it would have been a Cypriote Greek. (or Eastern Greek); he is 'mediterranean' in the broad sense, but with more 'indo-iranian' input than western med ; he seems prognathous enough for the superior maxillar, (more guess than effective constatation) what is found often among these pops, the inferior maxillar being less prognathous among them, almost receding under the mouth; here I'm not sure. His nasal profile is not "fronto-nasal", because he has some good nick under glabella, some 'brünnoid' or 'capelloid' old inheritage (some EHG's).
'indo-iranian' type has this too, the 'fronto-nasal' types could be one of the results of admixture with "soft" 'mediters' where the glabella is less developped... He isn't at all typical of the Anatolian Turks mean but can be found at some low level (individual) in Turkey for evident reasons: he represents the dolichocephalic element among them, a mix of gentle 'mediter' of previous Western Anatolia, so present among first EEF people, and something more archaic-like from Iran surroundings and surely CHGlike for DNA, sporadic since Neolithic and reinforced by diverse people from Caucasus and Iran and Eastern Caspian Sea at diverse periods, even along last partly 'east-asian' Turkic colonization.
Angela is good-eyed here, as in the other thread about an Aïnou picture (except the "darker skin", perhaps a souvenir of old pictures where everybody, even Irish people, seems brown skinned!).
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