@Johane Derite
You are joking, right? Early Latin influence in Albanian started exactly in the 2nd century BC. You?re the main contributor here and you don?t know this? You even call it incorrect without double checking?
It seems quite probable that the Dardani actually lost independence in 28 BC thus, the final occupation of Dardania by Rome has been connected with the beginnings of Augustus' rule in 6 AD, when they were finally conquered by Rome.
Not only we have evidence that an ?Albanoid? language was spoken in Albania proper in the 2nd century BC, but it was even probably spoken in the major coastal cities or Dyrrachium, Apollonia, and other minor South Illyrian cities which were allies of Rome and came to contact with Latin the earliest, leading to modern Albanian inheriting those influences.
Dardanians were not neighbouring Macedonia at all, they had Paeonians, Pierians, Thracians, etc. in between. So no, Albanoid influence in early Doric did not come from the Dardanians but the Illyrians in Epirus and Macedonia. Arnisa, a later Macedonian city was originally a Taulantian one. There?s Illyrian influence and toponymy as South as Aetolia (even Northern Boiotia I think).
Now it seems you?re not even familiar with Albanian. Are you a diaspora Albanian? Kosovo Albanian is completely unrelated to 90% of the dialects of Albania proper.
Kosovo Albanian is ?alien? to us, with mysterious features such as ?ka shkoj? instead of ?duke/tuke/tuhe/tue/tuj shkuam/shkuar?.
Albanian from Montenegro down to South Epirus had the verb ?isht? (is in Eng) while Kosovo has the standard ?osht?. Albanians have asht, ansht, ?, ?sht?, esht, even ia (Boiotia Arvanites).
Albanian for ?I have been? could be kam qen, kom qon, kam qan, kam ken, jam kjen, jam ken, jam k?n, kam q?n, whereas Kosovo Albanian is the typical unique example of no variety with jom kon, that?s it.
The words for ?now? are tash, tesh, tashi, shtehe, ime, tani, nani, taninaj, nashi. Kosovo has just tash.
Albanian also received an influence of migrants from the area around Dalmatia, which shaped the mountain dialects of North West Albania/Montenegro, clearly different from the local lowland and coastal Albanian of the same region even today. Or did the Dardanians migrate to Montenegro, Bosnia, and later even to Lika (Croatia) together with Vlachs?
Gheg and Tosk are less mutually intelligible than Italian and Neapolitan, which are considered 2 different languages (not dialects), thus we can also categorize them as 2 or even 3 or 4 different related languages if we follow the Italian and Spanish standards (Castellano, Catalan). And here you are talking about all the Albanian dialects coming from Dardanian. You clearly don?t speak fluent Albanian and are not familiar at all with Albanian dialects (not TV Standard language).
That Gheg vs Tosk division in itself is stupid, cause within Tosk there?s real Tosk, Lab, Cham, and Arbereshe (derived from Lab and Cham not Tosk).
Similarly, Gheg was first the name of the modern Southern Gheg tribes, the ones North of Drin identifying as Malsor/Malcor, with clearly different dialects, as well as a West vs East different. West says tuj shkua/shkue/shku and East used the alien ka shkoj. They also influenced each other in the contact area.
It seems like you?re indirectly proposing that Dardanians brought the Albanoid language to South Illyria during the Roman period (?). Why did the Romans allow such a movement? Why they never recorded it? Or whatever, let?s just throw theories around?
As for Matzinger, he?s the surgeon operating ghosts in the air. I don?t know what the hell is he studying in Illyrian and Thracian. Scodra is non-Illyrian he says. Then what is it, Brygian? Veneto-Liburnian? The dude should just stick to properly studying Albanian and forget about his Illyrian fantasies.
The Dalmatian speakers of the city called Shkodra as Skudra, similar to how the Persians called the Thracians. But grandpa Matzinger already said Albanian isn?t related to Thracian, so he can start focusing on the Brygians.
You are joking, right? Early Latin influence in Albanian started exactly in the 2nd century BC. You?re the main contributor here and you don?t know this? You even call it incorrect without double checking?
It seems quite probable that the Dardani actually lost independence in 28 BC thus, the final occupation of Dardania by Rome has been connected with the beginnings of Augustus' rule in 6 AD, when they were finally conquered by Rome.
Not only we have evidence that an ?Albanoid? language was spoken in Albania proper in the 2nd century BC, but it was even probably spoken in the major coastal cities or Dyrrachium, Apollonia, and other minor South Illyrian cities which were allies of Rome and came to contact with Latin the earliest, leading to modern Albanian inheriting those influences.
Dardanians were not neighbouring Macedonia at all, they had Paeonians, Pierians, Thracians, etc. in between. So no, Albanoid influence in early Doric did not come from the Dardanians but the Illyrians in Epirus and Macedonia. Arnisa, a later Macedonian city was originally a Taulantian one. There?s Illyrian influence and toponymy as South as Aetolia (even Northern Boiotia I think).
Now it seems you?re not even familiar with Albanian. Are you a diaspora Albanian? Kosovo Albanian is completely unrelated to 90% of the dialects of Albania proper.
Kosovo Albanian is ?alien? to us, with mysterious features such as ?ka shkoj? instead of ?duke/tuke/tuhe/tue/tuj shkuam/shkuar?.
Albanian from Montenegro down to South Epirus had the verb ?isht? (is in Eng) while Kosovo has the standard ?osht?. Albanians have asht, ansht, ?, ?sht?, esht, even ia (Boiotia Arvanites).
Albanian for ?I have been? could be kam qen, kom qon, kam qan, kam ken, jam kjen, jam ken, jam k?n, kam q?n, whereas Kosovo Albanian is the typical unique example of no variety with jom kon, that?s it.
The words for ?now? are tash, tesh, tashi, shtehe, ime, tani, nani, taninaj, nashi. Kosovo has just tash.
Albanian also received an influence of migrants from the area around Dalmatia, which shaped the mountain dialects of North West Albania/Montenegro, clearly different from the local lowland and coastal Albanian of the same region even today. Or did the Dardanians migrate to Montenegro, Bosnia, and later even to Lika (Croatia) together with Vlachs?
Gheg and Tosk are less mutually intelligible than Italian and Neapolitan, which are considered 2 different languages (not dialects), thus we can also categorize them as 2 or even 3 or 4 different related languages if we follow the Italian and Spanish standards (Castellano, Catalan). And here you are talking about all the Albanian dialects coming from Dardanian. You clearly don?t speak fluent Albanian and are not familiar at all with Albanian dialects (not TV Standard language).
That Gheg vs Tosk division in itself is stupid, cause within Tosk there?s real Tosk, Lab, Cham, and Arbereshe (derived from Lab and Cham not Tosk).
Similarly, Gheg was first the name of the modern Southern Gheg tribes, the ones North of Drin identifying as Malsor/Malcor, with clearly different dialects, as well as a West vs East different. West says tuj shkua/shkue/shku and East used the alien ka shkoj. They also influenced each other in the contact area.
It seems like you?re indirectly proposing that Dardanians brought the Albanoid language to South Illyria during the Roman period (?). Why did the Romans allow such a movement? Why they never recorded it? Or whatever, let?s just throw theories around?
As for Matzinger, he?s the surgeon operating ghosts in the air. I don?t know what the hell is he studying in Illyrian and Thracian. Scodra is non-Illyrian he says. Then what is it, Brygian? Veneto-Liburnian? The dude should just stick to properly studying Albanian and forget about his Illyrian fantasies.
The Dalmatian speakers of the city called Shkodra as Skudra, similar to how the Persians called the Thracians. But grandpa Matzinger already said Albanian isn?t related to Thracian, so he can start focusing on the Brygians.