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Mycenaean I9033 vs Natufian I1072
No where do they overlap.
Not even Levant_N overlaps with Natufian. Natufian is Epipaleolithic. Lots of things changed afterwards. Interestingly, though, Ancient Egyptians and modern (and presumably ancient too) Arabians remained mostly Natufian, and the West Eurasian admixtures in Ethiopians and Somalis today seems to be almost entirely Natufian, too.
I was trying to figure out in Vahaduo, out of curiosity, the possible richest people in the world in Natufian-like ancestry. Apparently they are the Mahra from Yemen, with ~76%. Saudis would get almost the same: ~73%.
"The Mahri language of Southern Arabian is one of the few indigenous, non-Arabic languages remaining on the Arabian Peninsula, and since Mahri is a non-written language, poetry in the Mahri language is a strictly oral art form." https://asuevents.asu.edu/content/i...-your-own-adventure-digital-exploration-mahri
Perhaps something like ~10 points less, but this is one model. The score may vary a bit from model to model (scaled, unscaled, penalty, no penalty...).:cool-v:
How much natufian -like admixture do
yemenite jews
Score? ( as they mixed with the arabian tribes of yemen during the last 1400 years)
I was trying to figure out in Vahaduo, out of curiosity, the possible richest people in the world in Natufian-like ancestry. Apparently they are the Mahra from Yemen, with ~76%. Saudis would get almost the same: ~73%.
"The Mahri language of Southern Arabian is one of the few indigenous, non-Arabic languages remaining on the Arabian Peninsula, and since Mahri is a non-written language, poetry in the Mahri language is a strictly oral art form." https://asuevents.asu.edu/content/i...-your-own-adventure-digital-exploration-mahri
The post-Roman Egypt paper models Levant_N as half Natufian, half Anatolian_N:
Good paper to readYes, indeed. They are also one of those things that bother Afrocentrics so much, because they have little or no African ancestry and yet they are pretty dark-skinned, but with very Caucasoid features... and, you know, the aDNA samples from Egypt show closest genetic affinity to modern Yemenites, including the Mahri people. That, of course, is a big problem for them to tackle, because it suggests that even if Ancient Egyptians were really as brown-skinned as the MALES as portrayed in their ancient artwork, we might be seeing just a Mahri-like people, that wouldn't have to imply any major black indigenous African input that was "diluted" in the last 2,000-2,500 years.
IMO the Eurasian people that spread herding and cereal harvesting and later cultivation to Northeast Africa and thence to East Africa were much more Natufian-like than Levant_N-like or Levant_BA-like. Indeed, all my models of heavily Eurasian-shifted East Africans pick a lot more (or even solely) Natufian than ANF, CHG or Iran_N.
Interestingly, some people think the Mahri look South Asian. I don't know, to me they look just like darker-skinned Southwest Asians:
Precisely. Lazaridis et al. got a very good p-value modeling Levant PPNB as 59.1% Natufian and 40.9% Dzudzuana, at the same time Dzudzuana and ANF were pretty similar. So...That's also basically what I get in G25 models: ~50-60% ANF + ~40-50% Natufian. So a heavy dilution of Natufian ancestry already happened between the Epipaleolithic and the Early Neolithic... or it might also be (at least partly) that some still unsampled Levantine people had much less North African (Taforalt-like) ancestry than the typical Natufians, and they also expanded together with the Natufians when agriculture was fully developed.
I was trying to figure out in Vahaduo, out of curiosity, the possible richest people in the world in Natufian-like ancestry. Apparently they are the Mahra from Yemen, with ~76%. Saudis would get almost the same: ~73%.
"The Mahri language of Southern Arabian is one of the few indigenous, non-Arabic languages remaining on the Arabian Peninsula, and since Mahri is a non-written language, poetry in the Mahri language is a strictly oral art form." https://asuevents.asu.edu/content/i...-your-own-adventure-digital-exploration-mahri
Yes, indeed. They are also one of those things that bother Afrocentrics so much, because they have little or no African ancestry and yet they are pretty dark-skinned, but with very Caucasoid features... and, you know, the aDNA samples from Egypt show closest genetic affinity to modern Yemenites, including the Mahri people. That, of course, is a big problem for them to tackle, because it suggests that even if Ancient Egyptians were really as brown-skinned as the MALES as portrayed in their ancient artwork, we might be seeing just a Mahri-like people, that wouldn't have to imply any major black indigenous African input that was "diluted" in the last 2,000-2,500 years.
IMO the Eurasian people that spread herding and cereal harvesting and later cultivation to Northeast Africa and thence to East Africa were much more Natufian-like than Levant_N-like or Levant_BA-like. Indeed, all my models of heavily Eurasian-shifted East Africans pick a lot more (or even solely) Natufian than ANF, CHG or Iran_N.
Interestingly, some people think the Mahri look South Asian. I don't know, to me they look just like darker-skinned Southwest Asians:
I haven't detected ancient SSA admix in Mahri (apparently neither Ygorcs). I used West and East SSAs.Funny thing is they're probably African admixed. So true Natufians were probably even more Caucasoid looking and perhaps lighter.
I haven't detected ancient SSA admix in Mahri (apparently neither Ygorcs). I used West and East SSAs.
To me they look like horners
And i know there genetic is different from yemenites...
P.s
Natufians were dark skin
And they might showed some african trait
full lips etc.....
They were partly y haplogroup E....
I wasn't aware the there was SSA in Natufians. Weren't they entirely ydna E? I associate ydna E with Ancient North Africans who admixed into Natufians and SSA not vice versa.
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