Politics Balkanian disagreements.

Here is the kandar, peshore=weigher.


And here is the koqe of kandar:

It`s an compliment in albanian.


so Albanians are still speaking Turkish,
I do not wonder why,
it is not coincidence, that the times of Ismail Vlore,
you wanted to name your country WEST TURKEY

Kantar = Turkish word for this kind of scale.

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and I know exactly how the ball under the stick is called,
and what it looks like,

so you Albanians believe that here in the forum we are all Budalla? right?
 
The number of Turkish origin words in Albanian language and Greek are a bit same in Turkish sources. :rolleyes:

Budala is writing with single "l", it is also Arabic, but you borrowed from Turkish. (y)

You are accusing Albania of being West Turkey, because of Turkish Loanwords in their language with using another Turkish loanwods. :unsure:
 
The number of Turkish origin words in Albanian language and Greek are a bit same in Turkish sources. :rolleyes:

Budala is writing with single "l", it is also Arabic, but you borrowed from Turkish. (y)

You are accusing Albania of being West Turkey, because of Turkish Loanwords in their language with using another Turkish loanwods. :unsure:

It's funny that we all here on this thread know what budala means, and use it daily :)
 
It's funny that we all here on this thread know what budala means, and use it daily :)

An Albanian, a Serb, a Greek and a Turk are talking about budala :LOL:. Totally, it is really funny. But also sad, not able to see common points and focusing on difference. I guess, as the Middle East, Balkans is some kind of swamp.:disappointed:
 
Yeah, I know it was a mistake, but it was funny as hell :)



They used that term long before Romei:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names....CE.93.CF.81.CE.B1.CE.B9.CE.BA.CE.BF.CE.AF.29


The modern English noun Greek (Grecas or Crecas) is derived from the Latin Graeci, which in turn originates from Ancient Greek Γραικός (Graikos). It seems that the word is related with the Greek word γέρων geron, "old man" (from the PIE base *ǵerh2-, "to grow old") via Proto-Greek *gera-, "old age"—also related to Mycenean Greek kera /geras/, "gift of honour". The Germanic languages borrowed the name with an initial k sound, which was probably their initial sound closest to the Latin g (Goth. Kreks).

Aristotle used the term Graikos related with Hellenes (Meteorologica I xiv) and claimed that it was the name originally used by the Illyrians for the Dorians in Epirus from Graii native name of the people of Epirus. He places Ancient Hellas in the region of Achelousiver around Dodona where in his opinion the great deluge of Deucalion must have occurred.



He is talking about your Albanian ancestors also. Read some history, before making this wild claims about terminology.
Don`t take seriously wiki, especially the pages created by greeks and serbs.
But i have to say that it`s true that the barbarian tribe of Epir which were illyrian, used to call greeks grai. In albanian Grua=Woman, gra(të), graia or graria= women. Graria is mostly used by tosk albanian to show a group of women.
 
so Albanians are still speaking Turkish,
I do not wonder why,
it is not coincidence, that the times of Ismail Vlore,
you wanted to name your country WEST TURKEY
You see that i am right about you?

Kantar = Turkish word for this kind of scale.

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Bravo. You see? When you want to be useful, you are successfully. This is exactly an kandar. Do you see the koqe of kandar?

and I know exactly how the ball under the stick is called,
and what it looks like,
I know, sometimes you have moments of lucidity.
so you Albanians believe that here in the forum we are all Budalla? right?

What have to do albanians and we? Here is a discussion between you and me.
You didn`t answer to my question. Is it true that greeks say Mass-Allah (glory to Allah)?
 
You see that i am right about you?


Bravo. You see? When you want to be useful, you are successfully. This is exactly an kandar. Do you see the koqe of kandar?


I know, sometimes you have moments of lucidity.


What have to do albanians and we? Here is a discussion between you and me.
You didn`t answer to my question. Is it true that greeks say Mass-Allah (glory to Allah)?

thank I have as you agreed moments of Lucidity but do you?

Just look what I wrote\
and what you say!!

you seem like as we say in Greece


'το μυαλο σου ειναι μυδι'
 
thank I have as you agreed moments of Lucidity but do you?

Just look what I wrote\
and what you say

Pathetic Albanians,

Μυδια

You didn`t answer to my question. Is it true that greeks say Mass-Allah (glory to Allah)?
 
But the influence of E people from Balkan was much erliAr .Watch this documentary before you read anything https://youtu.be/wJdB8ZEo40I

Egypt Copt Misir Pharaoh Narmer Sadet Menes Amen Ra Thot Ma-at Africa Berber Neger(nigger/negro) have all a meaning in Arbanian so called Albanian tongue . QyP in Arb means 'jar' those ancient vases made of clay to KeeP materials together , and this is what the Nile delta does , KeePing people together , even the form of a jar/vase is like the Nile Delta .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potte...ile:Skyphos_genius_animals_Louvre_MNB2030.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nile_Delta#/media/File:Nile_delta_landsat_false_color.jpg Its a CuP , KaP in Arbanian means to catch .CoPtic the CoPts , if the name was Ekapt than it means to KeeP things together people/land and or 'that' what was CaPtured by Narmer/Menes. Miser we say to corn , and we know how fertile that land is . The first king of Egypt Narmer , Ner in Arb means 'hoNER' , 'mer' means to take , Nar-mer = he who takes honor ,but i believe that kings name was Namman , Nam in Arb means something more than honor ,maybe renown , Man means to hold a holder , Naman = he who holds honor+ , the Eng word 'name' comes from nam because every persons name is his honor . Pharaoh , Far in Arb means 'seed' the word for fertile field is Ar , the Eng words Farmer means 'he who takes seeds' , Arable land means land that you can work = Ar ,so Far comes from Ar F-Ar=seed, the Norvegian/Swedish word for father Far comes from Arb Far/seed because the father holds the seed , ON means ours in Arb , Ionian Sea means 'our sea' ,Fara On (pharaoh) means 'our seed'. Sadet , Sa means like / how , Det(thet) means Sea , Sa-Det = like the Sea , and its all about the Nile flood = Sa Det like the Sea not a river anymore .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satetand this name is still alive in Dardania where the Aryans came from , and look at this kings hat .https://youtu.be/YMMswQoDWDohttps://youtu.be/D_9uS7lCXW4 Men in Arb means Mind , the root of this word comes from M to hold and En to be in constant movement (move-M-EN-t) , so M-EN to keep the thoughts together = Mind , Es means Est 'it is' , Menes 'he is mindful' clever.'A' means 'it is' in Arb , A Men means 'its mind' , Ra means to fall falling , A Men Ra means 'the mind(knowledge) fell' , but this is the SECRET of what happened , Menes was Naman and someone killed or took over the land/kingdom of Men and this new system is called A-Men Ra 'Menes fell' .And history repeats itself , we Arbanians made modern Egypt ,and after we fought and worked and build it ,than the black/brown/native people take it from us with force or by other means.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_of_Egypt https://youtu.be/TdGIrj-gVw0Thot means to say to tell something , to TAlk . Ma-at was responsible to measure , in Arb Mat means to measure ,Mas means measure in the past sense , the root of the word comes from M ma 'to hold' because every time measuring you need to hold a meter a stick a material x y to measure ,Mathematics comes from Mat to measure , and a person who measures hes/her self we call i/e Matur(mature) . A 'its' , Frik means Fear / scary , Africa means 'its scary' , and all that desert without water and deadly snakes scorpions , and all those deadly animals 'its scary' Berber is Arber our name , like k-Arbanoi and b-Arbarian. Neger ,the word for wild in Arb is Eger , N means 'in' ,N'Eger means 'in'wild" wilder wildish not straight wild but wilder than other people. "The true history of mankind will be written only when Albanians participate in it's writing."- Maximilian LambertzArDi.
 
@Arban Hoti
These things that you write in your posts112, 114, are your personal opinions or opinions of scholars?Where did you read this things?
 
these are all things that were said before me , i'm just pointing to the evidence .
 
Again , all these tribes like Pelasgian/Bryges/Phrygians/Etrurians all over south Europe and north Africa and Tartan/Dardan/Troyan/Kirat/Tartar/Bujar all over north Europe and Asia are all white and are called Arban(Albanian) and these people were key people in forming civilizations their linguistic influence is in all continents and we can trace them back only in the three peninsulas Asia minor Balkan and Italy , maybe this is where the name Tribal came from , these people to become so influential and so many in numbers they needed time , the humans spread from Mesopotamia , it is so easy to see this , the Indians went through Persia to India , the Chinese went the same way but more north to China , and we can see how they met in Indonesia , Indonesia means Indochinese they mixed, the blacks went to Africa and the whites to the North , the Arabs are a mix of Ar/white and black thats why they are called Arab , the word for equal in Arbanian is Barabart and because we went to India as Tartans/Dardans the word for equal in Hindi is Barabara , the roots of this word are , B make/made Ar our name A-B father/maker Art golden/art ,so B-Ar-A-B-Art means it was made from Ar the father a golden art , when you take the white color and mix it with black you get the middle brown = Arab race , i am totaly against mixing and i hate it but this was Done By God , and the wisdom behind this is to make a balance between the White and black people , and thats why the Prophets were sent to the Semites/Arabs because if they were sent to the whites the blacks would never accept them and vice versa , so every continent has to have their own Y Haplogroup and E fits perfectly into E-urope .
 
Ok , since you take everything what the new Romans said as true than look at this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albania_(placename)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelasgus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albani_people
http://www.albanianhistory.net/en/texts1000-1799/AH1000.html


Arms, and the man I sing, who, forc'd by fate,
And haughty Juno's unrelenting hate,
Expell'd and exil'd, left the Trojan shore.
Long labors, both by sea and land, he bore,
And in the doubtful war, before he won
The Latian realm, and built the destin'd town;
His banish'd gods restor'd to rites divine,
And settled sure succession in his line,
From whence the race of Alban fathers come
And the long glories of majestic Rome.(Virgil)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albano_Laziale

This means that Rome was made from Arban not Alban but Arban people and Julius Cesar was Arbanian and to this day there are Arbans living in Rome/Italy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albano
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alba,_Piedmont
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albori_(Vietri_sul_Mare)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arba,_Friuli-Venezia_Giulia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albenga
https://lij.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbenga
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alba_Fucens
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liri
Even before Rome when the Graeci came they met the kArbanoi read in the Pelasgus link.
 
In regards to arabs............was any mentioned by Roman historians in north Africa and the levant,?? all I read is
Numidians = morrocco and algeria
Liby-phoenicians/carthagians = tunisia and Libya
Egyptians = egypt
Philistines, Canaanites, Hebrews, phoenicians = the levant
Syria = left over Assyrians and hittities
Iraq = mix of sumerians, babylonians and kurds

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_Peninsula#Etymology
 
what do we know about Pelasgians , well i'm in no way an expert but you can look it up yourself , in Greek history it says that when Dan the Danoi came from Aegyptus in Argos they met king Pelasg and asked him if they could stay and he(dumb) asked an oracle and those magicians said yes they should stay , the people of Pelasg were called kArbanoi their tongue karba audan later bArbarian tongue , now what do we learn from this , 1st the Pelasgians were called so because of the name of king Pelasgus meaning the kings people the Pelagusians / Pelasgians 2nd their real name was Arbanoi because till this day some languages of north/east Africa put an C in front of every A 3rd the Danoi must be J people because they are the tribe or a part of the tribe of Dan , now we must try to put things together , when the Sea people (pelasgians) went to the Levant their first and most important person/leader is called Arba (Arbanoi) these are the Philistines .So the name of all these people is Ar with the suffix B Ba Br Bn etc .About the C in front of an A i think and believe that Carthage is in reality Artage Art as in Tart - Tartan Dardan , but since i saw that the name Latin comes from Italia 'Lati-n n-itaL' i see that Carth is Thrac 'Carth-thraC' , so two are the names of Ar , Ar-b and Ar-t .
o vlla. J is seen alot in hoti tribes is not arab it is a med genetic marker coastal more so
 
o vlla. J is seen alot in hoti tribes is not arab it is a med genetic marker coastal more so

Brother it is possible that those who are J in Hoti or where ever are not real Arbanians , i did this , i asked many Arbanians in Kosovo 'what tribe are you from' some answer very quickly , but some think for a second and than say that they are Krasniq .Thats why i said 'maybe i'm not Arbanian' at least till i know better , and if i find out that i'm not i will still love the Arbanians but i will not say that i'm one of them.
 
Brother it is possible that those who are J in Hoti or where ever are not real Arbanians , i did this , i asked many Arbanians in Kosovo 'what tribe are you from' some answer very quickly , but some think for a second and than say that they are Krasniq .Thats why i said 'maybe i'm not Arbanian' at least till i know better , and if i find out that i'm not i will still love the Arbanians but i will not say that i'm one of them.
Stop talking non sense! Mods should not allow your verbal diarrhea about Albanians in this forum! Once again, you are not Albanian but a South Slav. How many times do I have to say this to you?? Hoti is all J2b2-L283, two of their main brotherhoods, Gojcaj and Gjelaj, have tested as such:https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/albanian-bloodlines/about/results

If you are Hoti, then please tell me which brotherhood you belong to, the place you come from, and I will tell you if you indeed are a real Hoti.
 
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I'm from Gollak region , i was told that we are Hot since childhood , but i don't know anything about brotherhood , if you had a brain you would be able to understand that this system of brotherhood means that many Hoti's are not the same blood , and if you have any arguments please feel free to adviose and correct me , but stop 'me leh si qen o zdral'.
 
I'm from Gollak region , i was told that we are Hot since childhood , but i don't know anything about brotherhood , if you had a brain you would be able to understand that this system of brotherhood means that many Hoti's are not the same blood , and if you have any arguments please feel free to adviose and correct me , but stop 'me leh si qen o zdral'.

Which village? Not true, there are two Hoti's, the new and old which are not related by blood. Hoti qe gjendet ne Kosove normal qe i ka hup traditat se cilit Hoti dhe vllaznie i perkasin, te riut apo te vjetrit. Per me leh si qen, po leh ti ktu qe shkruan marrina. Tregoma katunin dhe une te tregoj cilat fise jan aty.
 
Which village? Not true, there are two Hoti's, the new and old which are not related by blood. Hoti qe gjendet ne Kosove normal qe i ka hup traditat se cilit Hoti dhe vllaznie i perkasin, te riut apo te vjetrit. Per me leh si qen, po leh ti ktu qe shkruan marrina. Tregoma katunin dhe une te tregoj cilat fise jan aty.

Medvegj katuni Svirrc , t'thash po leh sepse po shan , ski nevoj me ofendu , t'thash sdisa her nese sheh nej gabim tregom , per ket arsye osht forumi , ti kurr nuk um tregove ku gabova , veq shajte pa arsye , pra fol bir argument edhe e pranoj edhe kerkoj falje / terheqna , po veq me sha pa dhan as ni arsye ksaj i thom me leh.
 

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