V13* or CTS5856*

This raises the "why the difference" and "which is correct" questions. Just like why does YFULL not have BY70909 as mentioned by Shetop above, but FTDNA has?

YFull and FTDNA create their trees largely independent from each other and if YFull has so far no members of the respective branches in its tree, they don't create them. FTDNA has generally more testers and more branches, though there are here and there exceptions with YFull having more. You will also note that they name the branches differently, just like they detect them. So the same branch on FTDNA might be named after a different significant SNP than on YFull, even if its, actually, the same branch both describing. Just think of it as two researchers and each one getting their own material and sorting it their own way, based on just some rough preliminary outline which was established by others before. They are both pioneering without watching each other carefully, which can be quite confusing at times.
My branches and subbranches have different names on both sites as well.
 
YSEQ have just said that they will very kindly also test me for A7135 and BY70909.

Watch this space...
 
First result is in....

BY70909 ChrY 8358887 8358887 C+

So I am positive for BY70909 (A7135 not in yet) and many thanks to @Shetop for identifying the probability!

Interestingly, the comment put in YSEQ alongside the test status is...
"Processing BY70909 and A7135 are further branches that are not on the YFull tree" - so YSEQ are very much driven by YFULL, so, BY70909 not being on the YFULL E haplo tree, currently, meant I would never have been tested without my asking and @Shetop's comment.

Something worth remembering if taking a YSEQ analysis.
 
I'm now being tested against FT98195 - which doesn't seem to appear on either YFULL or FTDNA.

edit:

....looks like it may be BY70909 > FT195615 > FT147548 > FT196686 > FT98195

FTDNA has a subject identified as 'boardman' included in the 'Woods Y-DNA Project' with these SNPs (FamilyTreeDNA - Wood / Woods Y-DNA Project).
 
I am 10th Gen American My E-Ft191655 came from the Goode Family 1650 Cornwall/Southern England. I am Predominantly Scandinavian/ Celtic and am V13>CTS8814>CTS5856>BY4877>BY3880>Z5018>S2979>BY6125>BY6113>FT191655 big Y700 with FTDNA. I an not certain but I believe my path went along the Danube North. I think my line entry into England may have been with the Anglo-Saxon purely based on the Goode Family History back to 1300 but I cannot be Certain.
 
I am 10th Gen American My E-Ft191655 came from the Goode Family 1650 Cornwall/Southern England. I am Predominantly Scandinavian/ Celtic and am V13>CTS8814>CTS5856>BY4877>BY3880>Z5018>S2979>BY6125>BY6113>FT191655 big Y700 with FTDNA. I an not certain but I believe my path went along the Danube North. I think my line entry into England may have been with the Anglo-Saxon purely based on the Goode Family History back to 1300 but I cannot be Certain.

Your main lineage which I would keep an eye on is quite obviously E-BY6113. All English on FTDNA, but really, really young and shallow. This means it could have been in Britain from the Bronze Age or being much younger, we can't tell at this point.

Just to compare it with mongrels subclade, its a simlar situation with his upstream E-BY70909, but the difference is, the subclades of E-BY70909 being at least somewhat older and quite widespread. But in the end, we don't know it for sure for both of you without more ancient and modern sampling with matches which will point to a concrete time span for the entry point to Britain.

Many chances for between the Bronze Age and the Norman conquest.
 
Do you have a thought on the Split of S2979? Seems many are Albanian, but I have Zero Albanian Matches or Connections. I feel like my branch would have split off before then
 
Do you have a thought on the Split of S2979? Seems many are Albanian, but I have Zero Albanian Matches or Connections. I feel like my branch would have split off before then

E-V13 S2979 is widespread in Central Europe as well, for example my specific S2979 subclade FGC33621 has more diversity in Central-Western Europe than Balkans, like Berisha-Sopi who has a founder effect during Middle Ages, and the other FGC33621 that is present in Bulgaria, Romania and Greece is A10158 which was either spread via Urnfield Late Bronze Age or La Tene Celtic invasions during 4-3 century b.c.

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E-S2979 is so old, it predates most likely many of the regional splits, which happened later.
I would expect it to split already in or close to the source region of E-V13 before its LBA expansion.
 
E-V13 S2979 is widespread in Central Europe as well, for example my specific S2979 subclade FGC33621 has more diversity in Central-Western Europe than Balkans, like Berisha-Sopi who has a founder effect during Middle Ages, and the other FGC33621 that is present in Bulgaria, Romania and Greece is A10158 which was either spread via Urnfield Late Bronze Age or La Tene Celtic invasions during 4-3 century b.c.


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Thanks for the Graphics and Information. My Autosomal ius Predominantly Celtic and Scandi which fits an assimilation with La Tene
 
Just come through, I'm negative for FT98195.

No other test currently being done
 
Just for interests sake, these are a selection from my top Deep Dive results from MTA.....

Best of the bunch is:
Bronze Age Jutland Denmark 1400 BC (Rise47)
mtDNA: IY-DNA: R1b1a1b (M269/PF6517)
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 6)
37 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 158.5 cM
Largest chain: 236 SNPs / 11.23 cM
You are a top 96 % match to this sample! This makes your relationship to this individual exceptional.

And then...
Viking Invader Ridgeway Hill England 998 AD (VK261)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H52
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1b1a1a2a (BY127)

Genetic Distance: 7.4492
Sample Match! 99% closer than other users



Bucy-le-Long Gallic Chariot Burial France 400BC
(BFM265)
mtDNA Haplogroup: U2e1b2
Genetic Distance: 8.9292
Sample Match! 100% closer than other users

Don't know how to take these as, obviously, my haplogroup isn't the same! Are they of any real value?
 
Just come through, I'm negative for FT98195.

No other test currently being done

Your lineage is a Danubo-Carpathian/Eastern Urnfield lineage who was incorporated in Western Urnfield/Hallstatt by Celts/Gauls mainly.
 
Just for interests sake, these are a selection from my top Deep Dive results from MTA.....

Best of the bunch is:
Bronze Age Jutland Denmark 1400 BC (Rise47)
mtDNA: IY-DNA: R1b1a1b (M269/PF6517)
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 6)
37 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 158.5 cM
Largest chain: 236 SNPs / 11.23 cM
You are a top 96 % match to this sample! This makes your relationship to this individual exceptional.

And then...
Viking Invader Ridgeway Hill England 998 AD (VK261)
mtDNA Haplogroup: H52
Y-DNA Haplogroup: R1b1a1b1a1a2a (BY127)

Genetic Distance: 7.4492
Sample Match! 99% closer than other users



Bucy-le-Long Gallic Chariot Burial France 400BC
(BFM265)
mtDNA Haplogroup: U2e1b2
Genetic Distance: 8.9292
Sample Match! 100% closer than other users

Don't know how to take these as, obviously, my haplogroup isn't the same! Are they of any real value?

Its just a general autosomal similarity, which might not even point to direct ancestry. They do give you an IBD analysis too, with shared SNP and segments, but these are not that reliable. Going by back in time, haplogroups and IBD sharing is oftentimes more important than a general similarity. I'm unlikely to have Langobard ancestry of signficance, but there are Langobards with the right mixture of Germanic with Slavic-like and Roman-like, so I get them as top matches in most calculators. Actually I'm a on MTA a 100 % match vs all users for one of them.
In your case it might be very real, but I woulnd't trust it all too much, especially if its MTA. Their IBD sharing is surely insufficient, because I can't share with a Viking who lived 1.000 years ago 200 cM, including one segment almost having the size of 50 cM. That won't work out. Actual fairly close relatives of mine share less with me.
 
I have taken the same tests with same results, LDNA has me as E-V13, YSEQ has CTS1273 as most specific on yfull, but postive for A7730 T+, which is not on yfull. Went to Genetic Homeland and searched A7730 which shows up as BY6540 coincident with BY6543, phylogenetic parent BY6532. Does anyone have information on A7730 also known as BY6540. thanks
 
I have taken the same tests with same results, LDNA has me as E-V13, YSEQ has CTS1273 as most specific on yfull, but postive for A7730 T+, which is not on yfull. Went to Genetic Homeland and searched A7730 which shows up as BY6540 coincident with BY6543, phylogenetic parent BY6532. Does anyone have information on A7730 also known as BY6540. thanks

It is a very old branch, and the known testers are more Western, that's all I can say. This is from the FTDNA Blocktree for the context:
Blocktree.jpg
 
Riverman Maybe the southern Arc
Paper will find some e-v13's;)
 

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