Population structure in Italy using ancient and modern samples

^^I knew my great-grandmother too. She watched me while my parents went to work, prior to me starting school. I also spent my whole child and teenage years with her in my life, which I was very fortunate for. She was 100% Barese and her grandparents were too.
 
As I know they don't ask for birth or baptismal certificates. At least not always. Many times ancestry is simply self reported. And it is not always the researchers/geneticists directly who collect the samples, and samples are collected following very different procedures from time to time.

Well in my view, that is a potential flaw in the sample collection methods used if birth and/or baptismal certificates are not asked for.
 
Well in my view, that is a potential flaw in the sample collection methods used if birth and/or baptismal certificates are not asked for.


Definitely it is a potential flaw. Which is why academic samples are useful because they give us the big picture but they cannot always be taken for completely reliable when it comes to individual cases, especially the outlying ones, for the lack of control and strictness when they were collected. Because they may not always be completely accurate.

On the other hand, there is then to add the fact that there is individual variation, just see that often two brothers or sisters are not 100% identical genetically, so let alone two unrelated people who come from the same area, even when they really have all the grandparents from that area, it is not a given that they are entirely similar genetically.
 
Why would this be the case? Northern Albania was more isolated during the migration age. The south should have higher Slavic/Gothic admixture. There is higher R1a and I2. I1 is more pocketed (Dibra has high % IIRC), but places like Vlore have like 15% I1 if I'm not mistaken.

Northern Albanians on average plot more north and it's an undisputed fact.
 
the one listed by Pax - I think they are not publicly available or I just couldn’t find them.
Most other Italians would be redundant and similar with the ones we already have, I guess.

… there is another list of Italians using a non linear and different alleles format which we need to figure out how to convert to a standard format.

University of Bari
(Puglia) - 207 out of 217 Medical Research Samples, NOT necessarily Apulian or fully Apulian Ancestry, ... discarded samples over the six threshold distance.
... needed conversion to standard format, ... now is good :)

Dodecad K12b :
Code:
GSM1094884,5.90,0,3.31,0,28.88,17.44,0,0,10.69,0,33.78,0
GSM1094885,7.03,0,2.61,0,27.77,16.73,0,0.13,13.49,0,32.23,0
GSM1094886,9.56,0,2.57,0,31.42,17.31,0,0,10.35,0.07,28.72,0
GSM1094887,6.40,0,3.41,0,29.78,19.37,0,0.15,11.07,0,29.83,0
GSM1094888,7.03,0,2.00,0,31.43,14.54,0,0,11.86,0,33.14,0
GSM1094889,7.68,0,2.35,0,30.23,16.86,0,0,12.18,0,30.71,0
GSM1094890,4.32,0,2.40,0.02,29.22,14.87,0,0.43,14.76,0,33.97,0.01
GSM1094891,6.54,0,3.32,0,27.52,18.55,0,0,9.81,0.11,33.76,0.39
GSM1094892,5.89,0.13,2.44,0,29.01,17.23,0,0,10.95,0,34.34,0
GSM1094893,9.05,0,4.23,0,29.56,15.41,0,0,9.82,0.27,31.66,0
GSM1094894,7.69,0,3.57,0,28.47,14.88,0,0,13.83,0,31.55,0
GSM1094895,8.59,0,3.30,0,29.87,17.23,0,0,10.46,0,30.56,0
GSM1094896,8.32,0,3.79,0,28.20,15.76,0,0,11.76,0,32.16,0
GSM1094897,7.73,0,3.87,0,27.39,18.68,0,0,11.46,0,30.86,0
GSM1094898,8.76,0.54,3.54,0.32,28.75,15.99,0,0,11.51,0,30.59,0
GSM1094899,8.67,0,0.91,1.20,30.17,16.47,0,0.35,12.91,0,29.32,0
GSM1094900,6.70,0.63,3.55,0,31.34,15.69,0,0.17,12.08,0,29.84,0
GSM1094901,6.33,0,3.07,0,29.61,16.81,0,0.24,11.29,0,32.64,0
GSM1094902,6.45,0.33,2.27,0,27.76,15.87,0,0,12.46,0,34.85,0
GSM1094903,6.39,0,4.14,0.26,28.41,16.84,0,0,11.74,0,32.22,0
GSM1094904,5.01,0,2.00,0.99,27.15,13.76,0,0.18,14.99,0,35.34,0.57
GSM1094905,7.32,0,0.82,0,29.12,14.45,0,0,13.69,0,34.61,0
GSM1094906,6.81,0,3.58,0,26.88,15.64,0,0,12.60,0,34.49,0
GSM1094907,9.10,0,2.06,0,29.79,13.70,0,0,10.17,0,35.19,0
GSM1094908,5.32,0.76,2.30,0,27.30,16.16,0,0,12.37,0,35.49,0.29
GSM1094909,7.64,0,3.33,0.08,29.98,14.62,0,0,11.50,0,32.78,0.07
GSM1094910,6.19,0,2.43,0,29.94,15.22,0,0,11.54,0.69,33.90,0.08
GSM1094911,6.37,0,2.39,0.05,25.86,16.87,0,0,12.79,0,35.66,0
GSM1094912,7.15,0.68,1.49,0.25,29.10,13.17,0.35,0,12.96,0.29,33.78,0.77
GSM1094913,6.60,0,3.50,0.27,26.73,13.12,0,0,10.93,0,38.84,0
GSM1094914,9.12,0,2.35,0,27.91,13.26,0,0,10.58,0,36.79,0
GSM1094915,6.13,0.10,1.84,0.65,27.26,13.59,0,0,13.79,0.20,36.24,0.21
GSM1094916,5.94,0,4.13,0,30.94,17.36,0,0,10.09,0,31.54,0
GSM1094917,7.02,0.54,3.87,0,26.65,17.40,0,0,10.35,0,34.17,0
GSM1094918,5.53,0.52,2.35,0,28.40,18.68,0,0.57,11.85,0,32.09,0
GSM1094919,7.84,0,3.50,0.06,29.01,17.37,0,0,9.65,0,32.57,0
GSM1094920,5.71,0,3.02,0,29.29,16.30,0,0,12.75,0,32.92,0
GSM1094921,7.06,0.12,1.77,0.64,27.17,18.01,0,0,13.09,0,32.14,0
GSM1094922,8.17,0.03,2.51,0.53,26.09,16.67,0,0,11.44,0,34.56,0
GSM1094923,5.39,1.13,1.41,0,24.91,15.96,0,0.12,14.24,0.25,36.35,0.24
GSM1094924,7.03,0.22,3.34,0,26.92,17.12,0,0,12.27,0.02,33.08,0
GSM1094925,8.61,0,2.70,0,27.32,14.84,0,0,12.30,0.42,33.64,0.17
GSM1094926,6.59,0,3.42,0.05,25.97,16.48,0,0.02,11.27,0,36.21,0
GSM1094927,8.24,0.32,1.36,0,29.47,16.71,0,0,12.23,0,31.67,0
GSM1094928,6.41,0.51,2.51,0,28.19,15.20,0,0.11,11.52,0,35.56,0
GSM1094929,6.81,0,3.06,0,27.04,16.52,0,0.67,12.36,0,33.11,0.43
GSM1094930,7.79,0.11,0.83,0,28.92,14.41,1.04,0,10.96,0,35.94,0
GSM1094931,7.32,0,1.22,0,28.81,16.36,0.12,0,12.12,0,33.61,0.45
GSM1094932,8.09,0,1.61,0.24,27.98,15.49,0.45,0.25,11.43,0,33.95,0.52
GSM1094933,7.71,0,1.35,0.56,29.83,14.28,0.36,0,11.37,0,34.54,0
GSM1094934,6.87,0,1.70,0.29,29.78,16.98,1.27,0.07,11.25,0,31.80,0
GSM1094935,6.93,0,2.32,0.18,29.55,15.09,1.27,0,11.54,0.10,33.03,0
GSM1094936,7.66,0.13,4.68,0,29.10,12.67,0,0,11.46,0,34.30,0
GSM1094937,6.87,0,3.37,0.70,27.90,14.66,0.52,0.28,12.16,0.42,32.22,0.89
GSM1094938,6.75,0,4.76,0,28.35,19.43,0.30,0,10.05,0,30.36,0
GSM1094939,8.68,0,2.02,0,29.55,12.63,0,0,11.85,0.29,34.96,0
GSM1094940,7.98,0,5.12,0,29.17,17.48,0,0,10.01,0,30.23,0
GSM1094941,9.81,0,3.03,0,29.94,16.69,0,0,10.82,0,29.71,0
GSM1094942,6.62,0,3.16,0,28.21,17.43,0,0,9.57,0,35.02,0
GSM1094943,7.15,0,3.57,0,26.09,16.83,0,0,10,0,36.37,0
GSM1094944,6.47,0,1.98,0.15,27.60,14.47,0.54,0.66,12.90,0,35.01,0.21
GSM1094945,7.95,0,6.32,0,27.42,15.28,0,0,11.09,0,31.94,0
GSM1094946,8.09,0,5.36,0,28.25,13.36,0,0,10.65,0,34.30,0
GSM1094947,7.87,0,3.14,0,27.75,17.53,0.30,0,10.27,0.11,33.03,0
GSM1094948,7.65,0,2.73,0.17,28.62,19.85,0,1.13,9.01,0,30.84,0
GSM1094949,8.58,0,2.91,0.44,24.08,19.64,0,0,11.03,0.08,33.23,0
GSM1094950,8.13,0,3.76,0,26.22,18.95,0,1.31,9.45,0,32.17,0
GSM1094951,8.67,0,3.46,0,27.82,16.90,0,0,11.56,0,31.59,0
GSM1094952,7.59,0,2.21,0.04,30.75,15.80,0,1.75,9.50,0,32.33,0.03
GSM1094953,6.83,0,4.05,0.36,29.24,18.19,0.01,0,10.34,0.38,30.60,0
GSM1094954,5.95,0,4.54,0.62,25.85,18.99,0,0.21,9.85,0,33.97,0.01
GSM1094955,7.93,0,2.54,0,30.28,18.45,0,0,11.31,0,29.49,0
GSM1094956,8.25,0,3.19,0.01,25.58,19.00,0,0.76,11.17,0,32.04,0
GSM1094957,8.11,0,3.62,0.42,28.40,19.02,0,0.39,9.66,0,30.37,0
GSM1094958,7.38,0,1.98,0.99,29.04,15.59,0,0.03,11.53,0,33.45,0
GSM1094959,6.99,0,3.22,0,26.33,16.29,0,0.60,12.16,0.22,34.18,0
GSM1094960,8.72,0,3.23,0,27.06,15.44,0,0.81,11.78,0.01,32.94,0
GSM1094961,7.57,0.74,3.35,0,25.83,15.16,0.10,0.54,12.39,0,34.33,0
GSM1094962,8.98,0,2.83,0,27.18,16.13,0,1.16,11.15,0,32.58,0
GSM1094963,7.21,0,2.79,0,26.15,18.14,0,0.86,11.04,0.55,33.26,0
GSM1094964,7.90,0,2.53,0,26.42,15.74,0,0.80,10.57,1.01,35.03,0
GSM1094965,8.10,0.52,2.39,0.51,23.40,16.59,0,0.02,13.79,0,34.68,0
GSM1094966,7.69,0.87,1.21,0.51,26.66,17.31,0,1.05,14.57,0.42,29.71,0
GSM1094967,6.80,0.96,1.93,0,26.98,17.73,0,0,14.06,0,31.53,0
GSM1094968,8.54,0,1.76,0.93,26.53,16.29,0,0,12.44,0,33.51,0
GSM1094969,6.83,0.14,4.58,0.56,26.04,18.03,0,0.48,11.67,0,31.67,0
GSM1094970,4.22,0.33,5.33,0,27.78,20.22,0,0.07,10.88,0,31.17,0
GSM1094971,8.51,0,4.01,0.28,26.61,18.24,0,0.42,11.50,0,30.43,0
GSM1094972,7.19,0,2.74,0,27.02,14.93,0,0,13.08,0,35.03,0
GSM1094973,4.42,0,3.54,0,30.71,15.63,0.81,0.08,11.98,0,32.76,0.08
GSM1094974,5.88,0,2.74,0.20,29.93,14.64,0,0,12.52,0,34.07,0.02
GSM1094975,6.23,0,1.96,0.28,25.33,14.87,0,0,14.44,0,36.88,0
GSM1094976,6.23,0,1.52,0,28.81,13.98,0,0,12.41,0,36.42,0.63
GSM1094977,6.84,0,2.93,0,26.41,16.07,1.09,0,11.71,0,34.95,0
GSM1094978,5.70,0.30,3.06,0,27.51,15.65,0.11,0,12.71,0,34.97,0
GSM1094979,7.05,0,0.75,0,24.94,16.93,1.11,0,11.45,0,37.77,0
GSM1094980,5.78,0,1.88,0,28.71,17.81,0,0,11.03,1.06,33.74,0
GSM1094981,8.58,0,2.97,0.42,32.77,17.13,0,0,8.49,0,29.63,0
GSM1094982,10.53,0.44,1.17,0,31.67,16.65,0,0,10.59,0,28.96,0
GSM1094983,8.80,0.20,2.74,0.36,25.20,14.81,0,0,12.00,0,35.90,0
GSM1094984,4.48,0,1.09,0,26.83,18.23,0,0,11.85,0.06,37.45,0
GSM1094985,8.84,0,1.70,0.37,27.32,17.57,0,1.00,9.28,0,33.94,0
GSM1094986,10.44,0,5.55,0,27.50,15.08,0,0,7.64,0,33.79,0
GSM1094987,7.97,0,3.53,0.16,27.28,18.16,0,1.16,10.41,0.14,31.17,0
GSM1094988,8.12,0,3.08,0.77,27.50,17.78,0,1.16,9.33,0,32.26,0
GSM1094989,7.62,0,2.66,0.02,27.33,18.06,0,0.85,11.31,0,32.14,0
GSM1094990,7.99,0,4.12,0,27.95,17.36,0,0,10.80,0,31.78,0
GSM1094997,7.08,0,2.37,0,30.37,13.98,0,0,9.28,0,36.92,0
GSM1094998,6.79,0,4.81,0,29.90,13.76,0.24,0,11.40,0,33.10,0
GSM1095000,9.06,0,2.25,0,28.76,16.94,0,0,11.48,0,31.51,0
GSM1095001,9.17,0,2.18,0.50,30.23,13.45,0,0.04,10,0,34.42,0
GSM1095002,8.33,0.54,1.32,0,29.66,12.63,0,0,13.35,0.10,34.06,0
GSM1095003,8.95,0.88,1.61,0,30.09,11.76,0,0,11.84,0.63,34.25,0
GSM1095004,8.12,0.59,3.92,0.17,27.03,17.41,0.01,0,9.48,0,33.26,0
GSM1095005,6.11,0,1.20,0,24.32,14.12,1.55,0.08,12.59,0.04,39.78,0.20
GSM1095006,6.87,0,3.34,0.29,25.50,13.41,0.08,0,12.65,0.56,37.30,0
GSM1095007,9.27,0,2.32,0,25.24,13.70,0.35,0,12.40,0.01,36.71,0
GSM1095008,4.94,0,1.19,0,28.57,15.65,1.12,0,14.34,0,33.95,0.24
GSM1095009,5.63,0.91,3.04,0,27.44,13.39,0,0,13.44,0.19,35.96,0
GSM1095010,7.19,0.32,2.64,0,28.06,14.45,0,0,11.76,0.98,34.58,0.01
GSM1095011,5.25,0,0.47,0,30.19,15.28,0.46,0,13.12,0,34.80,0.42
GSM1095012,5.50,0,2.03,0.11,27.18,17.83,0.16,0,13.96,0,33.24,0
GSM1095013,5.45,0,2.03,0.10,27.23,17.80,0.18,0,13.95,0,33.27,0
GSM1095014,6.71,0,2.30,0.12,27.81,17.02,0,0,11.96,0,34.08,0
GSM1095015,7.60,0,2.92,0,30.26,14.81,0,0,12.46,0,31.94,0
GSM1095016,7.32,0,2.43,0,26.69,16.94,0,0,13.27,0,33.34,0
GSM1095017,6.40,0,3.56,0,26.37,16.23,0.29,0,12.35,0.10,34.69,0
GSM1095018,5.82,0,1.81,0,28.50,17.58,1.12,0.37,13.06,0,31.74,0
GSM1095019,5.46,0,3.63,0,34.78,15.88,0.07,0.87,10.13,0,29.17,0
GSM1095020,6.55,0,2.64,0,28.69,19.21,1.11,0.78,10.42,0,30.60,0
GSM1095021,7.21,0,4.34,0,33.21,18.03,0.74,0.66,8.35,0,27.46,0
GSM1095022,7.64,0.71,3.64,0,29.58,16.14,0,0,9.18,0.96,32.15,0
GSM1095023,5.13,0,4.14,0,27.34,18.96,0,0.95,12.05,0,31.45,0
GSM1095024,5.55,0.61,2.05,0,28.66,16.23,0,0,11.10,0,35.76,0.03
GSM1095025,6.79,0,5.27,0.11,27.40,16.71,0,0.88,12.06,0,30.78,0
GSM1095026,8.20,0,4.25,0,29.19,14.15,0,0.30,10.45,0,33.33,0.12
GSM1095027,5.95,0,4.24,0.25,28.12,17.63,0,0.18,11.16,0.44,32.04,0
GSM1095028,4.94,0.20,3.21,0,29.38,16.40,0,0.37,11.06,0.44,34.00,0
GSM1095029,7.16,1.10,3.78,0,32.01,14.03,0,0,9.39,0.55,31.98,0
GSM1095030,7.22,0,3.37,0,31.20,12.13,0,0,12.20,2.36,31.52,0
GSM1095031,6.97,0.19,2.56,1.66,31.57,11.67,0,0.10,11.44,0,33.84,0
GSM1095032,7.98,0.58,3.96,0.86,32.30,16.17,0,0,8.49,0,29.66,0
GSM1095033,7.14,1.37,2.93,0.84,31.28,14.47,0,0,10.53,0,31.43,0
GSM1095034,4.58,0.99,1.96,1.20,31.02,17.90,0,0,9.40,0,32.96,0
GSM1095035,8.07,0,4.19,0,28.42,14.82,0,0,10.36,0,34.15,0
GSM1095036,6.87,1.53,2.34,0.64,32.57,14.17,0,0.52,10.73,0,30.63,0
GSM1095037,9.81,0,3.31,0.63,29.78,13.17,0,0,10.40,0,32.80,0.10
GSM1095038,5.88,1.40,4.45,0.07,31.99,11.69,0,0,10.82,0.55,33.16,0
GSM1095039,7.11,0,4.23,0,28.35,16.45,0,0.04,11.29,0,32.52,0
GSM1095040,7.11,0,3.29,0,27.65,14.61,0,0.38,13.16,0.05,33.76,0
GSM1095041,6.61,0,5.34,0,25.35,14.61,0,0,10.37,0,37.71,0
GSM1095043,7.33,0,3.64,0,30.20,14.88,0,0.64,9.87,0.09,33.35,0
GSM1095044,8.33,0,3.36,0,30.82,13.85,0,2.13,10.35,0.89,30.28,0
GSM1095045,6.23,0.32,3.95,0.50,31.70,12.71,0,0.60,10.79,0.34,32.86,0
GSM1095046,8.04,0,3.77,0,27.97,14.29,0,0,11.77,0.11,34.05,0
GSM1095047,5.27,0,2.96,0,30.23,16.49,0,0.03,11.32,0,33.69,0
GSM1095048,6.67,0,2.86,0,27.96,16.92,0,0.06,12.18,0,33.36,0
GSM1095049,6.79,0,2.82,0,28.16,15.31,0,0.37,11.73,0.17,34.65,0
GSM1095050,7.37,0,4.42,0.19,26.00,14.50,0,0,10.44,0,37.07,0
GSM1095051,6.73,0,2.70,0,28.99,16.34,1.14,0,10.14,0,33.96,0
GSM1095052,10.03,0,5.34,0,26.51,18.02,0,0,8.19,0,31.85,0.06
GSM1095053,5.74,0,0.58,0,25.53,14.95,1.49,0,12.22,0,39.03,0.46
GSM1095054,7.66,0,2.00,0,23.02,15.19,0.03,0.74,11.48,0,39.89,0
GSM1095055,6.79,0,4.06,0,30.21,18.34,0,0,10.78,0,29.82,0
GSM1095056,6.37,0,2.68,0,27.25,17.76,0,0.12,12.06,0,33.76,0
GSM1095057,5.41,0.86,3.27,0,28.98,16.77,0,0,10.48,1.99,31.71,0.53
GSM1095058,6.95,0,3.28,0,30.52,19.54,0,0,10,0,29.71,0
GSM1095059,5.28,0,2.30,0,31.64,20.21,1.01,0.81,8.89,0,29.86,0
GSM1095060,5.33,0,3.22,0,32.81,18.03,0.95,1.15,10.85,0,27.65,0
GSM1095062,7.80,0,4.35,0,29.63,19.47,0,0.32,9.91,0,28.53,0
GSM1095063,7.00,0,4.35,0,26.98,16.54,0,0.62,13.47,0.20,30.84,0
GSM1095064,7.97,0,4.17,0,30.26,16.52,0,0,10.57,0,30.20,0.31
GSM1095065,7.33,0,1.45,0,27.66,16.13,0,0.22,12.45,0.06,34.70,0
GSM1095066,8.75,0.44,2.51,0,26.21,18.49,0,0,12.41,0.41,30.77,0
GSM1095067,7.10,0.09,2.63,0,26.65,21.72,0,0,13.24,0,28.59,0
GSM1095068,5.05,0,2.41,0.07,29.30,19.20,0.32,0.26,12.38,0,30.81,0.22
GSM1095069,7.43,0,2.08,0.07,29.24,20.26,0,0,11.89,0,29.02,0
GSM1095070,6.12,0,2.19,0,32.37,21.75,0,0.07,8.75,0,28.74,0
GSM1095071,6.75,0,0.19,0,30.12,17.69,1.17,0,12.74,0.51,30.83,0
GSM1095072,5.33,0,2.91,0,30.27,19.36,1.33,0.01,9.98,0,30.81,0
GSM1095073,5.85,0,0.15,0,31.53,17.78,1.04,0,12.10,0,31.55,0
GSM1095074,8.33,0,1.17,0,29.77,17.31,0,0,11.09,0.71,31.63,0
GSM1095075,5.86,0,0.85,0,30.93,17.57,1.05,0,12.06,0,31.69,0
GSM1095076,8.55,0,2.82,0,29.56,15.75,0.59,0.05,11.42,0.29,30.97,0
GSM1095078,7.42,0,3.06,0,30.47,18.20,0.72,0,11.53,0,28.60,0
GSM1095083,4.91,0,4.04,0,31.39,17.66,0,0,10.27,0,31.74,0
GSM1095084,7.39,0,5.16,0.86,28.35,16.41,0.58,0.86,9.40,0,31.00,0
GSM1095085,7.51,0.59,3.30,0.58,29.39,18.45,0,0.54,10.44,0,29.20,0
GSM1095086,7.51,0,2.37,0,26.91,15.47,0,0.49,12.40,0.54,34.32,0
GSM1095087,7.20,0.17,4.81,0,27.54,15.18,0.12,0.84,12.01,0,32.03,0.10
GSM1095088,5.36,0,3.75,0,24.86,17.90,0,0,10.96,0,37.17,0
GSM1095090,5.64,0,1.84,0.66,25.96,16.42,0,0,13.40,0,36.09,0
GSM1095091,5.62,0,4.16,0.16,26.67,15.28,0.30,0,12.15,0,35.67,0
GSM1095093,6.65,0,2.03,1.05,25.76,17.36,0,0,9.82,0.01,37.32,0
GSM1095094,5.32,0,3.92,0,28.86,16.96,0.06,0,9.16,0.77,34.95,0
GSM1095095,5.15,0,2.57,0.03,26.39,17.74,0,0,10.92,0.43,36.44,0.34
GSM1095096,6.57,0,2.32,0,27.16,17.65,0,0,11.08,1.01,34.19,0
GSM1095097,4.27,1.08,2.55,0,28.86,17.16,0.23,0,13.09,0,32.27,0.49
GSM1095098,6.68,0,2.39,0,26.32,11.83,0.08,0.15,13.05,0.49,39.01,0
GSM1095099,5.56,0.55,5.93,0,26.99,12.26,0,0.36,10.55,0,37.81,0
GSM1095100,5.48,0.54,4.05,0,27.51,12.25,0,0.58,13.08,0,36.52,0
GSM1095101,4.17,1.01,4.16,0,26.51,13.68,0,0.73,11.95,0,37.80,0
GSM1095102,4.28,0,1.81,0,27.35,16.64,0,0.67,12.67,0,36.58,0
GSM1095103,5.22,0,3.42,0.69,28.58,18.06,0,0.62,10.78,0,32.64,0
GSM1095104,4.98,0,2.26,0,28.92,17.51,0,0.18,12.01,0,34.13,0
GSM1095105,4.76,0,0.89,0,30.15,17.22,0,1.02,9.92,0,36.03,0
GSM1095106,7.33,0.73,2.65,0,27.23,17.14,0,0.16,11.74,0,33.02,0

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/geo/query/acc.cgi?acc=GSE44974
 
Salento: Thanks. Of those samples, 70 for me are < 5.

Distance to:PalermoTrapani_ANCESTRY
1.95514705GSM1095015
2.46696169GSM1094909
2.59528418GSM1094998
2.90344623GSM1094894
2.95487732GSM1095045
3.02230045GSM1095030
3.03283696GSM1094900
3.04565264GSM1095033
3.05330968GSM1094888
3.26423038GSM1094937
3.33935623GSM1094974
3.40558365GSM1094935
3.52251331GSM1095076
3.65928955GSM1095026
3.69542961GSM1095044
3.71059294GSM1095036
3.74395513GSM1094920
3.76940314GSM1094910
3.77375145GSM1094973
3.78707011GSM1095087
3.80018421GSM1094896
3.82014398GSM1095043
3.82631677GSM1094936
3.83676947GSM1094912
3.85436117GSM1095031
3.89843558GSM1094889
3.93312853GSM1094898
3.97107038GSM1095040
3.98040199GSM1094958
4.02185281GSM1095029
4.05879292GSM1094901
4.06332376GSM1095038
4.10167039GSM1095046
4.11379387GSM1095037
4.14097815GSM1095064
4.16511705GSM1095039
4.21633727GSM1094903
4.22516272GSM1095002
4.30033720GSM1094893
4.42444347GSM1094933
4.45814984GSM1094927
4.46421326GSM1095047
4.57246104GSM1094885
4.57458195GSM1095010
4.59035946GSM1094934
4.61629722GSM1095035
4.64952686GSM1095049
4.66112647GSM1094952
4.68720599GSM1094925
4.68953089GSM1094939
4.72360032GSM1094946
4.77518586GSM1095003
4.80040623GSM1094890
4.80399833GSM1094960
4.82778417GSM1095063
4.83803679GSM1094905
4.84657611GSM1095025
4.84841211GSM1094916
4.85082467GSM1095022
4.85676847GSM1095048
4.86672374GSM1094931
4.86777156GSM1094895
4.87511026GSM1094945
4.88631763GSM1094951
4.88873194GSM1095000
4.88952963GSM1095028
4.94902011GSM1095001
4.99498749GSM1094899
5.02794192GSM1094932
5.03137158GSM1094929

 
You’re Welcome PT, … got few at 1, the Tarantati :)

Hk7CAPV.gif
 
Last edited:
Modern Grecía Salentina (Griko towns of Salento) - Reitsema et al. PNAS 2022

Dodecad K12b :
Code:
Italian_South:PuG12_Soleto_LE_Apulia,4.49,0.23,2.04,0,25.77,17.59,0,0.96,13.57,0,35.34,0
Italian_South:PuG17_Soleto_LE_Apulia,9.24,0,1.88,0,32.26,14.11,0,0.39,11.31,0.2,30.61,0
Italian_South:PuG20_Calimera_LE_Apulia,8.37,0,3.12,0,25.87,9.98,0,0.74,11.7,0,40.21,0
Italian_South:PuG28_Martano_LE_Apulia,7.36,0,2.72,0.07,27.57,14.1,0,0.39,11.04,0,36.75,0
Italian_South:PuG33_Sternatia_LE_Apulia,4.68,1.22,3.08,0,23.07,16.05,0,0.32,11.09,0,40.48,0
Italian_South:PuG37_Soleto_LE_Apulia,7.45,0,2.66,0,27.16,15.9,0,0,12.82,0,33.76,0.24
Italian_South:PuG46_Martano_LE_Apulia,8.05,0.14,0.93,0,25.84,17.1,0,0,14.95,0.22,32.76,0
Italian_South:PuG58_Martano_LE_Apulia,7.63,0,2.91,0,29.07,13.83,0.87,0.19,11.49,0,34.01,0
Italian_South:PuG66_Zollino_LE_Apulia,3.94,0.53,4.12,0,25.05,18.54,0,0,11.34,0,36.47,0
Italian_South:PuG74_Zollino_LE_Apulia,8.11,0,3.59,0,29.12,17.8,0,0,9.08,0,32.29,0

Distance to:Salento
1.95409826Italian_South:puG37_Soleto_LE_Apulia
3.15101571Italian_South:puG12_Soleto_LE_Apulia
4.08968214Italian_South:puG46_Martano_LE_Apulia
4.17317625Italian_South:puG58_Martano_LE_Apulia
4.36927912Italian_South:puG28_Martano_LE_Apulia
4.77391873Italian_South:puG66_Zollino_LE_Apulia
4.90716823Italian_South:puG74_Zollino_LE_Apulia
7.55883589Italian_South:puG17_Soleto_LE_Apulia
8.06333058Italian_South:puG33_Sternatia_LE_Apulia
9.73435668Italian_South:puG20_Calimera_LE_Apulia

Distance to:Salento
2.20406443Italian_Apulia

Distance to:Italian_South:puG37_Soleto_LE_Apulia
2.36499471Italian_Apulia

Distance to:Italian_South:puG46_Martano_LE_Apulia
4.25241108Italian_Apulia

Distance to:Italian_South:puG74_Zollino_LE_Apulia
2.61654352Italian_Abruzzo

Distance to:Italian_South:puG17_Soleto_LE_Apulia
4.75371434Italian_Abruzzo

Distance to:Italian_South:puG58_Martano_LE_Apulia
1.33947751Italian_Campania

Distance to:Italian_South:puG28_Martano_LE_Apulia
3.08311531Italian_Campania

Distance to:Italian_South:puG66_Zollino_LE_Apulia
3.72820332Greek_Foca

Distance to:Italian_South:puG12_Soleto_LE_Apulia
3.81972512Greek_Foca

Distance to:Italian_South:puG20_Calimera_LE_Apulia
3.89725544Greek_Rhodes

Distance to:Italian_South:puG33_Sternatia_LE_Apulia
4.06484932Greek_Izmir
 
From post 980:

Distance to:Jovialis
0.97826377GSM1094919
1.52836514GSM1094895
1.72962424GSM1094990
2.00763543GSM1094947
2.06402519GSM1095022
2.09752235GSM1095000
2.19444754GSM1094951
2.28932304GSM1094953
2.32150813GSM1094893
2.36816385GSM1095064
2.39294797GSM1094988
2.42435558GSM1095039
2.43209786GSM1094940
2.47018218GSM1095076
2.48340492GSM1094957
2.54582010GSM1094987
2.54915672GSM1094898
2.57217807GSM1095074
2.57299436GSM1094901
2.63687315GSM1094896
2.72490367GSM1094989
2.81423169GSM1095004
2.87212465GSM1094934
2.89420110GSM1094903
2.91494425GSM1094889

 
From post 980:

Distance to:Jovialis
0.97826377GSM1094919
1.52836514GSM1094895
1.72962424GSM1094990
2.00763543GSM1094947
2.06402519GSM1095022
2.09752235GSM1095000
2.19444754GSM1094951
2.28932304GSM1094953
2.32150813GSM1094893
2.36816385GSM1095064
2.39294797GSM1094988
2.42435558GSM1095039
2.43209786GSM1094940
2.47018218GSM1095076
2.48340492GSM1094957
2.54582010GSM1094987
2.54915672GSM1094898
2.57217807GSM1095074
2.57299436GSM1094901
2.63687315GSM1094896
2.72490367GSM1094989
2.81423169GSM1095004
2.87212465GSM1094934
2.89420110GSM1094903
2.91494425GSM1094889

3pHO34f.png


The University of Bari samples proved by Salento, along with the HO samples for modern Italians and Greeks.
 
Posts 980 and 985.

My husband:Calabrian and Neapolitan. Just goes to show how much variation there is in Italy

Distance to:AJF
3.27852101GSM1094936
3.54389616GSM1094946
3.87524193GSM1095046
4.06771435GSM1094939
4.29884868GSM1095037
4.38501995GSM1095003
4.45004494Italian_South:puG58_Martano_LE_Apulia
4.47335445GSM1094925
4.47493017GSM1095026
4.66356087GSM1095002
4.69107664GSM1094914
4.70506110GSM1095040
4.76965408GSM1095035
4.92334236GSM1094998
4.93752975GSM1095010
4.97353999GSM1095007
5.00201959GSM1094960
5.03388518GSM1094912
5.14282024GSM1095100
5.15748000GSM1094961
5.15916660GSM1094907
5.16153078GSM1094972
5.18804395GSM1095001
5.24295718GSM1094983
5.30195247Italian_South:puG28_Martano_LE_Apulia


Mine:
Distance to:Angela
8.71578453GSM1095019
8.74159024GSM1095021
9.69428182GSM1095070
9.72829379GSM1095060
10.03881965GSM1094981
10.28254832GSM1095059
10.58352493GSM1095032
11.81788475GSM1095058
11.84127105GSM1095083
11.88272696GSM1094886
11.88548695GSM1095036
12.10295005GSM1095072
12.16497431GSM1094916
12.36088994GSM1095078
12.36557722GSM1095034
12.42849146GSM1095029
12.44351638GSM1094982
12.48553563GSM1095055
12.58124795GSM1094900
12.59615814GSM1095073
12.63846114GSM1095062
12.70580969GSM1094955
12.82767711GSM1094887
12.90940742Italian_South:puG17_Soleto_LE_Apulia
12.92976798GSM1095033
 
Wow! these guys must really be from Bari, because they're mostly my top scores. Even when comparing every single other academic sample from Italy that we have:

Distance to:Jovialis
0.97826377GSM1094919
1.18486286Apulia:puG74_Zollino_LE_Apulia
1.52836514GSM1094895
1.72962424GSM1094990
1.85132385Molise:pG26_Molise
2.00763543GSM1094947
2.06402519GSM1095022
2.09752235GSM1095000
2.16529444Abruzzo:Alp140
2.19444754GSM1094951
2.28932304GSM1094953
2.32150813GSM1094893
2.36816385GSM1095064
2.39294797GSM1094988
2.42435558GSM1095039
2.43209786GSM1094940
2.47018218GSM1095076
2.48340492GSM1094957
2.54582010GSM1094987
2.54915672GSM1094898
2.57217807GSM1095074
2.57299436GSM1094901
2.63687315GSM1094896
2.71775643Abruzzo:Alp090
2.72490367GSM1094989

 
My Distances from Jovialis Post 985. Some good ones (3 < 5).

Distance to:PalermoTrapani_ANCESTRY
3.60498266Italian_South:puG58_Martano_LE_Apulia
3.94353902Italian_South:puG17_Soleto_LE_Apulia
4.96074591Italian_South:puG37_Soleto_LE_Apulia
6.03743323Italian_South:puG74_Zollino_LE_Apulia
6.48520624Italian_South:puG28_Martano_LE_Apulia
7.17320012Italian_South:puG46_Martano_LE_Apulia
8.05313604Italian_South:puG12_Soleto_LE_Apulia
9.61073358Italian_South:puG66_Zollino_LE_Apulia
10.75915424Italian_South:puG20_Calimera_LE_Apulia
12.41803527Italian_South:puG33_Sternatia_LE_Apulia

 
My Distances from Jovialis Post 985. Some good ones (3 < 5).

Distance to:PalermoTrapani_ANCESTRY
3.60498266Italian_South:puG58_Martano_LE_Apulia
3.94353902Italian_South:puG17_Soleto_LE_Apulia
4.96074591Italian_South:puG37_Soleto_LE_Apulia
6.03743323Italian_South:puG74_Zollino_LE_Apulia
6.48520624Italian_South:puG28_Martano_LE_Apulia
7.17320012Italian_South:puG46_Martano_LE_Apulia
8.05313604Italian_South:puG12_Soleto_LE_Apulia
9.61073358Italian_South:puG66_Zollino_LE_Apulia
10.75915424Italian_South:puG20_Calimera_LE_Apulia
12.41803527Italian_South:puG33_Sternatia_LE_Apulia

Indeed, both Apulia and Sicily have a pan-southern Italian range that overlaps each other. Along with the rest of the South.
 
Red plus are the samples from Bari University:

MtXwcLI.png


Distance to:Jovialis
0.97826377Bari:GSM1094919
1.18486286Apulia:puG74_Zollino_LE_Apulia
1.52836514Bari:GSM1094895
1.72962424Bari:GSM1094990
1.85132385Molise:pG26_Molise
2.00763543Bari:GSM1094947
2.06402519Bari:GSM1095022
2.09752235Bari:GSM1095000
2.16529444Abruzzo:Alp140
2.19444754Bari:GSM1094951
2.28932304Bari:GSM1094953
2.32150813Bari:GSM1094893
2.36816385Bari:GSM1095064
2.39294797Bari:GSM1094988
2.42435558Bari:GSM1095039
2.43209786Bari:GSM1094940
2.47018218Bari:GSM1095076
2.48340492Bari:GSM1094957
2.54582010Bari:GSM1094987
2.54915672Bari:GSM1094898
2.57217807Bari:GSM1095074
2.57299436Bari:GSM1094901
2.63687315Bari:GSM1094896
2.71775643Abruzzo:Alp090
2.72490367Bari:GSM1094989

 
Red plus are the samples from Bari University:

MtXwcLI.png


Distance to:Jovialis
0.97826377Bari:GSM1094919
1.18486286Apulia:puG74_Zollino_LE_Apulia
1.52836514Bari:GSM1094895
1.72962424Bari:GSM1094990
1.85132385Molise:pG26_Molise
2.00763543Bari:GSM1094947
2.06402519Bari:GSM1095022
2.09752235Bari:GSM1095000
2.16529444Abruzzo:Alp140
2.19444754Bari:GSM1094951
2.28932304Bari:GSM1094953
2.32150813Bari:GSM1094893
2.36816385Bari:GSM1095064
2.39294797Bari:GSM1094988
2.42435558Bari:GSM1095039
2.43209786Bari:GSM1094940
2.47018218Bari:GSM1095076
2.48340492Bari:GSM1094957
2.54582010Bari:GSM1094987
2.54915672Bari:GSM1094898
2.57217807Bari:GSM1095074
2.57299436Bari:GSM1094901
2.63687315Bari:GSM1094896
2.71775643Abruzzo:Alp090
2.72490367Bari:GSM1094989

Just thought of something, regarding the Ancestry DNA results:

D2Tc5x5.png



It is no wonder why I am only getting 57% from Bari, just look at the range of samples from that region (From Umbria to Calabria)

I guess if they sampled more closely to the part of the range I plot in, I'd probably get closer to 100% (which is what I am)
 
Interesting. Thanks to you guys for identifying the Bari samples, I think my Italian similarity map project is getting more accurate over time.
I still need more G25 samples from Sicily, Foggia and Benevento, though.

Testing with my coordinates:
cc.png
 

This thread has been viewed 327241 times.

Back
Top