I was wondering is there any data about haplogroups of Kosovo albanians because I'm interested to see is there any big difference between them and albanians from Albania? Because on this table there is nothin about Kosovo yet:
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml
This is nothing related to nationalism but rather intent to shed light the whereabouts of real natives on their various locations based mostly on their recent DNA.
When I mean NATIVES it would mean native for some specific timeframes because if we go even backwards in the human migrations and history everyone is a MIGRANT.
The very first human created is ADAM and based on facts nowadays he came from Central Africa and according to religious documents he was neither black or white, rather created from the earths ground and water from all around the earth, so all the mixed type of ground like red, brown, black, white etc. So it is argued its skin color was mixture of all main colors.
I may hypothesize based on DNA facts (listed below) the following:
1: I may hypothesize that Ancient Greeks and Ancient Macedonia (taking into account the ethnic majority) were comprised by current ethnic Albanians and Hellenic people
2: I may hypothesize based on the DNA facts data below that “
Illyrians are direct descendants of
I2a haplogroup.
3: I may also hypothesize (based on DNA data and the current locations of modern Albanians and Greeks) that current modern Greeks are not the only descendants of Ancient Greeks but it comprises of other ancient tribes (see below 1 to 7).
4: I may also hypothesize that current ethnic Albanians are neither the descendants of: Illyrians, Thracians, Dacians, Carpians (Carpathian) (and at that time there were no Greeks yet), but rather NATIVE people with the DNA of E-V13 which was pre Illyrian, Thracian, Dacian, Carpian (Carpathian) and Ancient Greek and Macedonian.
If we carefully look at the map and the highest percentages of E-V13, We can see that on the most areas where current
ethnic Albanians live E-V13 has its highest percentages, Kosovo 47.5%, Albanians from Macedonia 39.1%, south Greece 43.5% (were ethnic Albanians called Arvanitas or Arberesh live), north Greece 35.4%, Arvanitas and Peloponnese area 47%% (it is known that Arvanitas lived in Peloponnese area too), and Albania with 27.5%. While the rest of the Greece (were traditionally is known that no Albanians live there) as of those from Crete have only 8.8%, Thrace 19%, and the rest of Greece overall, ethnic Greeks of today have only 19%, it also shows that they are much more Slavicized than Albanians with R1a 16% and I2a of 19%. In addition, based on a map shown with a percentage of E-V13, south Serbia (were ethnic Albanians live) has higher percentage of E-V13, and south east and north east part of Montenegro (were ethnic Albanians live) have also higher percentage.
1:
Arvanitas based on Southwest Greece (
Arberesh, who spoke a dialect of the Albanian language). It is also argued that Arvanitas were also on Peloponnese area of Greece.
2:
Epirus (Where Gjergj Kastrioti Skanderbeg declared that he is a descendant of Epirus king of Pyrrhus),
3:
Dardania (current Kosovo)
4: Current
Albania
5: West (current)
Macedonia.
6: the Very South of current
Serbia
7: South East and north East part of current
Montenegro
E-V13 is 10,000 years old, then we can argue that current
ethnic Albanians are
NATIVE inhabitants of Europe, it should be interested to see what DNA would the kings of Ancient Greeks have.
This also verifies why
Greek and Albanian language is 5000 years old as argued in the recent study.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ience&module=Search&mabReward=relbias:w&_r=2&
It is argued that relatively small populations and the very non mixed of...Saami (Norway, Sweden, finish), Sardinians (Sardinia, very south of Mediterranean Dalmatia), Basques (North Spain) and
Kosovar Albanians (Republic of Kosovo) are the very
NATIVES of the European region.
Please refer to what native Saami, Sardinians, Basques and Kosovar Albanians should look alike
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardinian_people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanians_in_Kosovo
Autosomal DNA[edit]
Analysis of autosomal DNA, which analyses all genetic components has revealed that few genetic discontinuities exist in European populations, apart from certain outliers such as Saami, Sardinians, Basques and Kosovar Albanians. They found that Albanians, on the one hand, have a high amount of
identity by descent sharing, suggesting that both
Albanians from Albania and Kosovo derived from a relatively small population that expanded recently and rapidly in the last 1,500 years. On the other hand, they are not wholly isolated or endogamous, as they share a significant amount of descent with nearby Macedonian, Greek and Italian populations.[103]The recent growth is particularly evident in Kosovar Albanians, which show particularly high levels of homogeneity, in contrast to the diversity otherwise found in other Balkan populations.[104]
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1207.3815v1.pdf
Novembre J. et al. (2008) Genes mirror geography within Europe, Nature doi:10.1038/nature07331
R1b (kelts, 22,000 years) J2 (middle-east 15,000 years) I1 (Vikings Scandinavians 20,000 years) R1a (Slavs - Russia, Poland 23,000 years) I2a1 (Sardinia, Dalmatia 8,000 years). E (54,000 years), E1b1b (42,000 years). E-V13 (10,000 years)
Region/Haplogroup
| I1
| I2*/I2a
| I2b
| R1a
| R1b
| G
| J2
| J*/J1
| E-V13
|
Albania
| 2
| 12
| 1.5
| 9
| 16
| 1.5
| 19.5
| 2
| 27.5
|
Kosovo Albanians
| 5.5
| 2.5
| 0
| 4.5
| 21
| 0
| 16.5
| 0
| 47.5
|
Albanians (Macedonia)
| 1
| 9
| | 1.5
| 18.8
| 1.6
| 21.9
| | 39.1
|
Greece (Peloponnese)
| | | | | | | | | 47
|
Greece (South)
| 3
| 20
| | 2.2
| 19.6
| 5.5
| | | 43.5
|
Greece (North)
| 2
| 12
| | 19
| 14.6
| 5.2
| | | 35.4
|
Greece (Crete)
| | 13
| | 8.8
| 17
| | 39
| | 8.8
|
Greece (Thrace)
| | 19
| | 22
| 12
| | 19
| | 19
|
Greece (ethnic Greeks)
| | 19
| | 16
| 11.7
| 9
| 17
| | 19
|
Macedonia (ethnic Slavic)
| 1
| 33
| 1.5
| 5.1
| 15.2
| 1.5
| | | 24.1
|
Bulgaria
| 4
| 20
| 2
| 17
| 11
| 5
| 11
| 3
| 23.5
|
Bosniaks
| 4
| 56
| 0
| 16
| 3
| 2
| 3.5
| 0.5
| 10
|
Bosnian Croats
| 0
| 71
| 2
| 12
| 2
| 1
| 1
| 0
| 9
|
Bosnian Serbs
| 2.5
| 31
| 2.5
| 13.5
| 6
| 1
| 8.5
| 0
| 22.5
|
Croatia
| 5.5
| 37
| 1
| 24
| 8.5
| 2
| 6
| 1
| 10
|
Serbia
| 8.5
| 33
| 0.5
| 16
| 8
| 2
| 8
| 0.5
| 18
|
Y haplogroup E1b1b (E-M35) in the modern Balkan population is dominated by its sub-clade E1b1b1a (E-M78) and specifically by the most common European sub-clade of E-M78, E-V13.[68] The area in and around
Albanian speaking regions has the highest known percentages E-V13 in the world, and it is thought that the majority of E-V13 in Europe and elsewhere descend from a common ancestor who lived in the Balkans in the late Mesolithic or Neolithic, and that men of this lineage began to spread outside the Balkans as early as the Neolithic, or even as recently as the Roman era.[68][69][70][71][72][73]
In contrast, another major discovery relevant to the study of E-V13 origins was the announcement in
Lacan et al. (2011) that a
7000 year old skeleton in a Neolithic context in a Spanish funeral cave, was an E-V13 man. (The other specimens tested from the same site were in
haplogroup G2a, which has been found in Neolithic contexts throughout Europe.) Using 7 STR markers, this specimen was identified as being
similar to modern individuals tested in Albania, Bosnia, Greece, Corsica, and Provence. The authors therefore proposed that, whether or not the modern distribution of E-V13 of today is a result of more recent events,
E-V13 was already in Europe within the Neolithic, carried by early farmers from the Eastern Mediterranean to the Western Mediterranean,
much earlier than the Bronze age.
Haplogroup E-V13 is the only lineage that reaches the highest frequencies out of Africa. In fact, it represents about 85% of the European E-M78 chromosomes with a clinal pattern of frequency distribution from the southern Balkan peninsula (19.6%) to western Europe (2.5%). The same haplogroup is also present at lower frequencies in Anatolia (3.8%), the Near East (2.0%), and the Caucasus (1.8%). In Africa, haplogroup E-V13 is rare, being observed only in northern Africa at a low frequency (0.9%).
—
Cruciani et al. (2007)
This would claim that
E-V13 is not originated from Egypt n
or even north Africa as the percentage of E-V13 in those regions is minimal. This also claims that E-V13 is 10,000 years way before the Egypt era. Now if we are about to go even more backwards then E-V13 is originated from E1b1b , however because E1b1b is 42,000 years it would be almost impossible to find what race or their appearance are.
References:
http://www.jogg.info/32/bird.htm
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_E1b1b_Y-DNA.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_by_ethnic_group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dardanians_(Trojan)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Agawf3IRD4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M99ze151HvA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaonians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M99ze151HvA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqMmFS14JjA
I bet 100% that you live in one of the big cities and have never visited one of these "tribal" areas. My village is firstly described in greek books in the 1300, with an Illyrian name (still has the same name). We have never had Slav-Macedonians living there, been purely Albanian Catholics (Muslims from 1800s) (documented). Due to this, the neighbouring villages (both albanian and macedonian villages) thought that we killed any Macedonian that tok a step inside our "territory" (lol). This story was told to me by a Macedonian who I employed to build my house and water systems. After working there for 3 days he told me how afraid he had been before entering the village. I can say that I had a good laugh at that. He then said that he hadn't meet so nice people in ages. I get the same feeling about you from your comments. It seems that you really think the albanian villagers are like tribes from the ancient times, which in itself is rather extreme that anyone can believe that.... Id say it says more about you than anything else. I'll end this tirade with this comment, sorry mods but I just cannot leave stupid comments like those alone.
