Debate Should freedom of speech be unlimited?

Should freedom of speech be unlimited?

  • I'm for total freedom of speech

    Votes: 9 32.1%
  • I'm for freedom of speech with few limitations.

    Votes: 17 60.7%
  • I don't care for freedom of speech, because I always lie or I'm dumb.

    Votes: 2 7.1%

  • Total voters
    28
Freedom is freedom of the mind if you good or not
 
Freedom of speech isn't unlimited anywhere to my knowledge. The way that it works in the United States is that you have the right to say anything you wish, about anything you wish, no matter how offensive it might be, and the government has no right to prevent you or punish you for it, with the following exceptions: speech that involves incitement to violence (usually defined as incitement to imminent violence), false statements of fact (slanderous and libelous speech which causes injury), obscenity (primarily sexual obscenity), child pornography, and speech owned by others (copyright and trademark laws) are all exempt from First Amendment protections.

Whether someone's free speech rights have been violated is a matter for judges. The Supreme Court has ruled that no matter how offensive it might be, people can burn a U.S. flag. Publicly funded museums present works of "art" that show a crucifix in a vat of urine, etc. Do I like it? No, I don't, but that's not the standard.

Private venues are totally different. The rules imposed there are a matter for the "owner" of the venue. In practical terms, however, the private venues will reflect the mores and customs of the surrounding culture and what they consider "acceptable" speech.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions
 
Freedom with limits

I do agree with allowing the use of free speech, but, at the same time, people use speech freedoms to the extremes in most cases. I understand that people feel how they feel, such as when someone hung a noose at Duke University, but it is unacceptable to be able to use your freedoms of intents of malice. When you use your freedoms to undermine/neglect someone, you are placing yourself and others that you speak of in danger. I believe you should be able to speak your heart if you want to contribute something positive to the world that can result in the change of a community, not when you are intending to control others or "rid unneeded problems".
 
I believe freedom of speech with limitation should allow. It is in our human nature that possibility of abusing things are present because, if it isn't true. What is the purpose of divine and human law?
 
I have come to appreciate freedom of speech much more that mine is slowly being eroded by "my" country's Islamic government.
 
The freedom of speech is our fundamental bulwark against tyranny of the majority.
Truth is an absolute defense against defamation. If Truth hurts, that's too bad for you, grow a thicker skin.
 
What restrictions on the freedom of speech would you support?

Would you ban Robert Spencer from your country for telling the truth about Islam, as he does here?

 
I see that as someone who is against Islam.... but politicians often brand anyone that's opposed to muslims as being 'racist';- even though Islam is an abusive ideology and not a race, since there's white muslims too, just like there's black christians or catholics. In the UK, it would most likely be classified as Islamophobia, or an act of prejudice against muslims and Islam. I am Islamophobic and I have a logical reason to fear the Islamic ideology after seeing so many abusive quotes from the koran book.
 
I see that as someone who is against Islam.... but politicians often brand anyone that's opposed to muslims as being 'racist';- even though Islam is an abusive ideology and not a race, since there's white muslims too, just like there's black christians or catholics. In the UK, it would most likely be classified as Islamophobia, or an act of prejudice against muslims and Islam. I am Islamophobic and I have a logical reason to fear the Islamic ideology after seeing so many abusive quotes from the koran book.
Knowing old testament and atrocities Christians did in history, and still some of them do in modern times, shouldn't you also be Christianophobic?
 
Knowing old testament and atrocities Christians did in history, and still some of them do in modern times, shouldn't you also be Christianophobic?

I have read the violence of the Old Testament. I find it abhorrent. But I have a few things to say about it.
The violence of the old testament is descriptive not prescriptive as it is in the Quran. Besides, a great deal of the old testament laws associated with temple worship are no longer valid for Jews, and never have been for Christians. Another point is the evidence from statistics. Whenever there is a terrorist attack, most often the motives are found in the scriptures of Islam, the Quran and the Hidiths. Yet I have not heard of a single case where a Christian blew himself up saying "Jesus is Lord". When Jerry Fallwell starts beheading people in the name of Christ then you might have a point, but otherwise Christian violence is ancient history. Islamic violence is a daily reality.
 
I have read the violence of the Old Testament. I find it abhorrent. But I have a few things to say about it.
The violence of the old testament is descriptive not prescriptive as it is in the Quran. Besides, a great deal of the old testament laws associated with temple worship are no longer valid for Jews, and never have been for Christians. Another point is the evidence from statistics. Whenever there is a terrorist attack, most often the motives are found in the scriptures of Islam, the Quran and the Hidiths. Yet I have not heard of a single case where a Christian blew himself up saying "Jesus is Lord". When Jerry Fallwell starts beheading people in the name of Christ then you might have a point, but otherwise Christian violence is ancient history. Islamic violence is a daily reality.
Maybe not today, but In the Name of Lord" most of battles started, on both sides in last 1,500 years in Europe and 500 in America. In Name of Lord Prussians were killed on the last crusade. In Name of Lord people were burning in purifying fire. The list is so long, and I'm sure you know most of it. If Christians or Europeans in general could put aside Bible and become tolerant, I'm sure Muslims can do that too. Well, you should know, that it is possible, you live in Canada and you have Muslim neighbors. Are they about to kill you?
 
Maybe not today, but In the Name of Lord" most of battles started, on both sides in last 1,500 years in Europe and 500 in America. In Name of Lord Prussians were killed on the last crusade. In Name of Lord people were burning in purifying fire. The list is so long, and I'm sure you know most of it. If Christians or Europeans in general could put aside Bible and become tolerant, I'm sure Muslims can do that too. Well, you should know, that it is possible, you live in Canada and you have Muslim neighbors. Are they about to kill you?

No, let's make a distinction here between Muslims and Islam, that is often overlooked.
There is no Islam without sharia or jihad. This doesn't mean that a person identifying with the religion either knows about nor cares about these passages, but they are there. And as Muslims become more fervently religious and observant, they discover these passages. And since they believe the Quran is written by God, and Muhammad is the excellent example of human conduct, their culture is hostage to the insidious baggage of the Islamic scriptures.
 
No, let's make a distinction here between Muslims and Islam, that is often overlooked.
There is no Islam without sharia or jihad. This doesn't mean that a person identifying with the religion either knows about nor cares about these passages, but they are there. And as Muslims become more fervently religious and observant, they discover these passages. And since they believe the Quran is written by God, and Muhammad is the excellent example of human conduct, their culture is hostage to the insidious baggage of the Islamic scriptures.
And all the peaceful and tolerant Muslims around the world are proving you wrong. On one side we have your hypotheses, on other real people living their lives. Sorry, but I will take real life as an indicator who is right.
 
And all the peaceful and tolerant Muslims around the world are proving you wrong. On one side we have your hypotheses, on other real people living their lives. Sorry, but I will take real life as an indicator who is right.

altough you do, you don't want to see it, but Islam fundamentalism is a reality in this world
it is spreading and they find their inspiration in the Quran
 

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