Genetic study Genomes from 82 Etruscans and Southern Italians.(800 BCE – 1,000 CE).

Covoloni de Broion has nothing to do with etruscans ...............it is part of the indigenous Euganei people who have been in North East Italy since at least 3500BC ........that paper states they only have ydna of R1b1 and G2a3

Etruscans associate closer with the Umbri people on the Adriatic side of italy

Why does everyone try to rubbish the indigenous Ligurians and Euganei of northern Italy ? ................maybe a fantasy of Etruscan dominance of Italy, which never happened ? .....................the best is to check the dominance of etruscans over Rome and the 9 generations of etruscan rule over them.

I am confused :indifferent:...

My points personally had nothing to do with that. More of a question whether these samples are in any way related to the ones on the map (Covoloni de Brion are not even Etruscan in that map, so I wasn't even referring to them...).

Maybe you were not addressing me, or maybe I did not understand what you meant?
 
There is already a published Imperial period Roman sample from Etruria (Chiusi, 200-400 AD). In the PCA this sample ends up with modern people from Italian Latium, I would say it has less than ~50% admixture from the eastern Mediterranean. Perhaps it's much more complex, even in Imperial Roman times the population was more diverse, there aren't enough samples to draw conclusions.




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There is already a published Imperial period Roman sample from Etruria (Chiusi, 200-400 AD). In the PCA this sample ends up with modern people from Italian Latium, I would say it has less than ~50% admixture from the eastern Mediterranean. Perhaps it's much more complex, even in Imperial Roman times the population was more diverse, there aren't enough samples to draw conclusions.




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Thanks for sharing this resource!

Does anybody know what they refer to when they say Eastern Mediterranean? Since the Mediterranean is so vast, it could mean many things.
 
Distance to:ETR001
6.38203729Italian_Campania
7.03265242Italian_Abruzzo
7.62693910Italian_Sicily
8.38596446Italian_Calabria
8.38833142Italian_Marche
9.60335879Italian_Lazio
9.96289115Ashkenazi_Jews
9.96578647Italian_Apulia
10.96518582Italian_Jews
11.02515760Moldovan_Jewish
11.19228752Greek_Lemnos
11.26296586Italian_Romagna
11.56550474French_Corsica
12.23690320Greek_Central
12.30425130Greek_Fournoi
12.35916664Greek_Athens
12.37459494Greek_Foca
12.60453490Greek_Izmir
12.77140556Sephardic_Jews
13.30770078Greek_Crete
13.32534052Italian_Tuscany
13.33030007Greek_Icaria
13.47303975Morocco_Jews
14.03145039Greek_Kos
14.16424018Greek_Peloponnese


Distance to:ETR001
5.72585365Imperial-age_Marche_(n=2)
6.564175506th-century_Piedmont_(Italians_only)_(n=7)
7.93676256Late_Antiquity_Latium_(n=24)
8.87417602Italian_Greeks_(n=2)
8.93407522EMBA_Greece_(n=6)
10.23708455Early_Medieval_Latium_(n=5)
10.29304134Mycenaean_Greece_(n=4)
10.80237474Medieval_Foggia_Apulia_(n=5)
12.19273964Imperial-age_Latium_(East_Med_immigrants)_(n=46)
15.07897211Late_Medieval_Latium_(n=16)
16.92457976Bronze_Age_Sicily_(n=15)
17.19678749Early_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=7)
17.57018497Etruscans_(n=3)
17.58842801Chalcolithic_Bulgaria_(n=9)
17.74870418Minoan_Greece_(n=10)
17.85048179Bronze_Age_Illyrians
18.12963044Early_Neolithic_Greece_(n=3)
18.21896265Early_Neolithic_Starcevo_culture_(n=8)
18.99202464Villanovans_(n=2)
19.58193300Medieval_Andalusia_(n=14)
19.98121117Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_Anatolia_(n=8)
20.12171464Middle_Bronze_Age_Anatolia_(n=2)
21.18671046LN_Lengyel_culture_(n=8)
21.97552730Roman_&_Visigothic_Iberia_(n=31)
22.54377076Middle-Late_Bronze_Age_Hittites_(n=2)


Distance to:Jovialis
7.95983668ETR001

 
Now this is very interesting to me. ETR001 clusters with C6, and is closest to the so-called Latin-outlier R437 from the Iron Age.

She was a Mediterranean, not an eastern Mediterranean.

Distance to:ETR001
3.08917465C6_Iron_Age_Mediterranean:R437_(Latin_Prenestini_Tribe)_Palestrina_Selicata
3.12755496C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R52_Villa_Magna
4.03565360C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R131_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
4.13444071C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R113_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
4.93768164C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R117_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
5.00859262C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R56_Villa_Magna
5.05356310C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R118_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
5.56285898C5_Late_Antiquity_Eastern_Mediterranean:R122_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
6.02139519C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R836_Civitanova_Marche
6.29034975C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R47_Centocelle_Necropolis
6.51112126C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R49_Centocelle_Necropolis
6.52214689C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R835_Civitanova_Marche
6.66137373C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1290_Villa_Magna
6.98725983C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R35_Celio
7.02551777C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R973_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
7.25305453C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R65_Villa_Magna
7.88702098C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R64_Villa_Magna
7.93834366C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R969_Tivoli_Palazzo_Cianti
8.01208462C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R54_Villa_Magna
8.17496789C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R1283_Cancelleria
8.30575704C6_Late_Antiquity_Mediterranean:R120_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
8.45656550C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R57_Villa_Magna
8.47171765C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R111_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
8.53086748C6_Medieval_Mediterranean:R59_Villa_Magna
8.58506261C6_Imperial_Mediterranean:R137_Marcellino_&_Pietro
 
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Dodecad 12B using updated Italian samples and my Dodecad 12B coordinates. I am pretty close to this ETR001. Who exactly is this fellow again? Given I am pretty close to this sample, The fact that he clusters with the C6 Cluster from Antonio et al 2019 is not surprising as I cluster with the C6 group as well.

Distance to:ETR001
4.58093877PalermoTrapani_Combined
6.38203729Italian_Campania
7.03265242Italian_Abruzzo
7.62693910Italian_Sicily
8.38596446Italian_Calabria
8.38833142Italian_Marche
9.60335879Italian_Lazio
9.96578647Italian_Apulia
10.96518582Italian_Jews
11.26296586Italian_Romagna
13.32534052Italian_Tuscany
15.01636108Italian_Emilia
15.83142445Italian_Liguria
18.61888557Italian_Lombardy
19.18587241Italian_Piedmont
19.59393784Italian_Veneto
21.34612143Italian_Friuli_VG
23.44608496Italian_Trentino
25.90687747Italian_Aosta_Valley

 
no Y Haplogroup, but… mtDNA showed up as: T1a8a

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Interesting Salento, R850 and ETR001 have similar mtnda as well or is it R850 has Y DNA T1?
 
… ETR001 vs S

… Largest Segment 15.5 cM … maybe a Tourist, … unless all the Tourists are legit :)

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Salento: In regards to you post #33, that is really close given you are using 7 CM as default, and not 3, etc.
 
Salento: In regards to you post #33, that is really close given you are using 7 CM as default, and not 3, etc.

… that’s why I made the Tourist comment, … that’s a lot of Apulian for an Etruscan, I guess :)
 
Well, what I can say is that ETR is from the Late Roman Empire period...

Given the abstract of this upcoming paper:


"This continuity drastically changes during the Roman Imperial period where we report an abrupt population-wide shift to ~50% admixture with eastern Mediterranean ancestry."We should expect a drastic* difference between ETR001 (~300CE) and some the 82 samples, the ones from the Iron age that predate it. (*using the description from the abstract).
 
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… that’s why I made the Tourist comment, … that’s a lot of Apulian for an Etruscan, I guess :)


She is Roman, not Etruscan, cannot be considered Etruscan for any reason. The Etruscan chronology ends at the end of the first century BC.


Dodecad 12B using updated Italian samples and my Dodecad 12B coordinates. I am pretty close to this ETR001. Who exactly is this fellow again? Given I am pretty close to this sample, The fact that he clusters with the C6 Cluster from Antonio et al 2019 is not surprising as I cluster with the C6 group as well.

Distance to:ETR001
4.58093877PalermoTrapani_Combined
6.38203729Italian_Campania
7.03265242Italian_Abruzzo
7.62693910Italian_Sicily
8.38596446Italian_Calabria
8.38833142Italian_Marche
9.60335879Italian_Lazio
9.96578647Italian_Apulia
10.96518582Italian_Jews
11.26296586Italian_Romagna
13.32534052Italian_Tuscany
15.01636108Italian_Emilia
15.83142445Italian_Liguria
18.61888557Italian_Lombardy
19.18587241Italian_Piedmont
19.59393784Italian_Veneto
21.34612143Italian_Friuli_VG
23.44608496Italian_Trentino
25.90687747Italian_Aosta_Valley


ETR001 could be anything being she is Roman of the Imperial age. She has a very well-preserved skull, which is why she's in an anthropology museum. She was found in the 1800s, when anything was ascribed with too much easiness to the Etruscans because at the time it was very difficult to date a skull accurately. So she is actually without an accurate archaeological context, and was found in Chiusi at the border between Tuscany and Umbria, but nowhere is mentioned the name of the necropolis, this suggests that they probably don't even know. It is probably reuse in late Roman times of an older tomb.

Among the ancient DNA samples her mtDNA was found in Ptolemaic Egypt. Among modern samples in an Italian sample (Pala 2012) but the study does not say from what area of Italy.



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Pax Augusta: So she is Roman (not He), so mtdna is the key which is T1a as Salento Noted. Jovialis post 30 shows ETR001 is very close to the C6 Med Cluster from Antonio et al 2019 and close to South/Central modern Italy starting with Marche and moving Southward. I ran the top 6 C6 Romans that Jovialis ran in post 30 (ones with distances < 5) vs. Modern Italian samples, only included the ones that had at least 1 with a distance < 10. ETR001 does not to me seem to different from modern Italians

Distance to:Italian_Sicily
3.35404234R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
3.44389315R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
5.08254857R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
5.80417953R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
6.18016181R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
6.53940364R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
8.07264517R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
9.49430882R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia


Distance to:Italian_Abruzzo
3.37182443R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
3.40208759R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
4.74745195R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
4.92633738R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
5.09174823R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
6.07623239R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
6.09424319R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
7.45135558R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia


Distance to:Italian_Apulia
5.63133199R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
5.76332369R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
7.07757020R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
7.15357253R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
7.89144473R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
8.83920245R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
9.25052971R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
10.29657225R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia


Distance to:Italian_Campania
1.98408669R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
2.95387881R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
3.70673711R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
4.55702754R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
4.78842354R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
4.92595168R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
6.93185401R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
8.56571655R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia


Distance to:Italian_Calabria
4.75823497R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
5.26492165R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
6.28000796R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
6.64693162R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
6.86971615R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
7.65354820R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
9.74266904R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
11.45484614R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia


Distance to:Italian_Lazio
6.39973437R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
7.35437965R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
7.60505753R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
8.32478829R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
8.44094189R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
8.51764052R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
9.57301415R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
9.63911303R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata


Distance to:Italian_Marche
5.05660004R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
6.22497100R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
6.40141109R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
7.59623881R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
7.75295453R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
7.81467747R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
8.48859847R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
9.02768874R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia


Distance to:Italian_Romagna
7.09165002R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
9.11096043R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
9.40319095R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
10.84811043R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
11.25035999R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
11.34562471R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
11.63032244R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
12.32640661R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia

Distance to:Italian_Tuscany
8.87597882R118_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
11.22107392R113_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
11.87459052R52_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
13.39049663R131_Imperial_Era_Via_Paisiello_Necropolis
14.01787074R437_Iron_Age_Palestrina_Selicata
14.04972953R122_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia
14.13979137R56_Medieval_Era_Villa_Magna
14.84405605R117_Late_Antiquity_S_Ercolano_Necropolis_Ostia

 
@PT
… the one to one with the “Roman” ETR001 has a MRCA (most recent common ancestry) of 3.1 Generations, … She’s like a Modern Italian, I Think.
 

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