Besir Bajrami
Regular Member
Again, the only thing that has availed in you post, is the heart 
I knew it that you don't have guts to quote every my sentence to reply, including here and the part of studies that I transmit to you, just like your friend Iapetos... it will be a miracle to do that... because your machine of propaganda can not cover every ray of sun (the true)
...and I have more than 600 other books, that are waiting for youS), started from ancient writers, like Herodotus, Strabo, Homer, Pliny, Thucydides, Ptolemy.. to the year 2011... and we have thousends of claims like these:
...if there is a truly autochthonous race in the world it is certainly the Albanian race, as it is formed of the descendants of the Pelasgians...
... Albanians are the only original inhabits in Balkan, the others are invaders...
...the three Shkypetar States, Illyria, Epirus and Macedonia ...
... thus pressed back, The Illyrian, Epirot and Macedonians clans consolidated themself in what geography knows as Albania...
... the albanians are the most ancient race in southeastern Europe. History and legend affort no record of their arrival in Balkan peninsula...
... from the Illyria to Albania...
... all these parts from books, you can find above posted as it should, and you pass them silently like nothing was said (epic fail)
And how can you do such a crime in the scientific level, to offend all these what i sent to you... you had the ansewer from best scientists in the world, not by me ...why you pass them and post here a map about Epirotes (with the poor propagand tendency that even and the cradle of Albanians to call it Greek), that all in the scientist world are knowing as albanians. Here you have many of them:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.139407142773730.23767.100001133356751&l=5e6b160e5a&type=1
Even Castrioti is greek
Search about Castrioti (Kastrioti):http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&prmdo=1&tbs=bks:1&q=Castrioti&a q=f&aqi=&aql=f&oq=&psj=1&prmdo=1&fp=82a567adc72d26 3b
{You have to make him greek or slav, whatever, because you know that he was King od Epirus and Macedonia, like albanian (Illyro-Thracian) states, and disorientate your propaganda about Epir and Macedonia
Or Fustanella
... when all the world knows that is an albanian traditional costume of the all Albanians, latter was in use only by Tosk Albanians(until today).
Search about Fustanella - http://www.google.com/#q=the%20Alban...6d7fcb6d497136 ...{"fustan"-dress in albanian (and in no other language); "funt/d"-the lower part of the dress; "an"-side (or the lower side of the dress - Fustanella), also fút (whith accent at "u"), is the name of that type of clothing, which we put forward at the bottom of the body, when we have to work something.... like freemasons today}...
Or... what else is left from you to make it slavic or greek ?
And ah yes, I see that you are trapped with Bosnia... even that I'll try to answer you for the fourth time about the same question, in the same way. You said that bosnians and albanians have much differences in DNA:
I said that it must be, because slavs and illyrians have much differences in DNA
... and these haplotypes that they have in common, are because south slavic, didn't replace all the illyrians at once... illyrians were pushed back slowly (where we find being wasted in the small Albania today), but some of them become slavic (illyrians did not speak slavic, right? like bosnians speak - that's why there we face the term assimilation)... that's why some bosnian haplotypes are in common whith albanians(illyrians) and the other part what is different from albanians is slavic...
It's so easy to understand whith simple historical fact, why you have to be confused even here... do you want to draw to you in paint haha or you a have a short video about little kids to learn history: See it from the the sec. 35 to the end (1.17) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0tGOdHl7_0
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... and of course, read more in this issue: Here you have many of them:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.139407142773730.23767.100001133356751&l=5e6b160e5a&type=1
... I send you whith link, in order to not upset other members here, who know what they seek, and for what they opened this topic (and are not trapped in slavic or greek propaganda like you, only because you are a slav, or the other one was greek)...
Even that in these kind of maps that you where posted, are evident the invasions of others, like slavs in this case, from Bullgaria. I saw you tendences only in geography and I write you in this way above (even that you didnt understand as always):
"Also, about maps, you have to understand that they don't describe the autochthony always, but they are the result of expensions (invasions). We have survival history and as you go deeper in time, will see that our territory is larger. Restriction (contraction) of our territory is continuous occurrence since prehistory, we can't boast with any map, except the oldest ones that comfort us a little bit (because contraction is lower).
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...3356751&type=1
We have also occupations maps that there is no Albania, but this does not mean that there was no Albanian ...
In fact these are maps that invasions are documented. Even just on the basis of maps of this kind, neighbors claim territories. And not whith autochthony."
- It would be better to continue talking with you. I gave you materials from linguistical, we don't have to search the old albanian language, because albanian today is old like it was... it was preserved from these self-issolated albanians, even that there were influences from invaders - atrocities, the language didnt were romanizated or hellenizated at all... these albanian words and these small semantic units in them, are a real treasure about the scientists, and with the method of comparison and etymology, they have concluded that this language is the oldest in Europe... Here you have also the answer about your only justification, why albanian language wasen't wrote before (although many have already deciphered ancient pelasgian inscriptions whith the Albanian language), they just survive in their mountains whith their own laws coming from the antiquity and they were not free to create science. But before greek and roman era, yes, this language was written, that's why today many pelasgian inscriptions are deciphered whith this language) - Elizabeth Pyatt, from Pennsylvania State University: Albanian might be considered very "old" and Greek pretty "new"- http://linguistlist.org/ask-ling/oldest.cfm
... in the same way, these conclusions came and for historical, symbolic, anthropological, cultural, geographic... components (you have example of all these components from the page 2,4,5 and 6 in this topic), that's proving once again the autochtony of albanians and the original link between them and ancient cultures around the Mediterranean... It will be nice to proceed talking whith you, to enable the posting of over 600 books from me, but here you like a deserter, leave your pseudo-nationalistic propaganda away, because it doesnt help anymore (especially when you have to argue something in multi components, then you are trapped)
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* Now, let's focus in the topic...
I knew it that you don't have guts to quote every my sentence to reply, including here and the part of studies that I transmit to you, just like your friend Iapetos... it will be a miracle to do that... because your machine of propaganda can not cover every ray of sun (the true)
...and I have more than 600 other books, that are waiting for you
S), started from ancient writers, like Herodotus, Strabo, Homer, Pliny, Thucydides, Ptolemy.. to the year 2011... and we have thousends of claims like these:...if there is a truly autochthonous race in the world it is certainly the Albanian race, as it is formed of the descendants of the Pelasgians...
... Albanians are the only original inhabits in Balkan, the others are invaders...
...the three Shkypetar States, Illyria, Epirus and Macedonia ...
... thus pressed back, The Illyrian, Epirot and Macedonians clans consolidated themself in what geography knows as Albania...
... the albanians are the most ancient race in southeastern Europe. History and legend affort no record of their arrival in Balkan peninsula...
... from the Illyria to Albania...
... all these parts from books, you can find above posted as it should, and you pass them silently like nothing was said (epic fail)
And how can you do such a crime in the scientific level, to offend all these what i sent to you... you had the ansewer from best scientists in the world, not by me
...why you pass them and post here a map about Epirotes (with the poor propagand tendency that even and the cradle of Albanians to call it Greek), that all in the scientist world are knowing as albanians. Here you have many of them: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.139407142773730.23767.100001133356751&l=5e6b160e5a&type=1
Even Castrioti is greek
Search about Castrioti (Kastrioti):http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&prmdo=1&tbs=bks:1&q=Castrioti&a q=f&aqi=&aql=f&oq=&psj=1&prmdo=1&fp=82a567adc72d26 3b
{You have to make him greek or slav, whatever, because you know that he was King od Epirus and Macedonia, like albanian (Illyro-Thracian) states, and disorientate your propaganda about Epir and Macedonia
Or Fustanella
... when all the world knows that is an albanian traditional costume of the all Albanians, latter was in use only by Tosk Albanians(until today).
Search about Fustanella - http://www.google.com/#q=the%20Alban...6d7fcb6d497136 ...{"fustan"-dress in albanian (and in no other language); "funt/d"-the lower part of the dress; "an"-side (or the lower side of the dress - Fustanella), also fút (whith accent at "u"), is the name of that type of clothing, which we put forward at the bottom of the body, when we have to work something.... like freemasons today
}... Or... what else is left from you to make it slavic or greek ?
And ah yes, I see that you are trapped with Bosnia... even that I'll try to answer you for the fourth time about the same question, in the same way. You said that bosnians and albanians have much differences in DNA:
I said that it must be, because slavs and illyrians have much differences in DNA
... and these haplotypes that they have in common, are because south slavic, didn't replace all the illyrians at once... illyrians were pushed back slowly (where we find being wasted in the small Albania today), but some of them become slavic (illyrians did not speak slavic, right? like bosnians speak - that's why there we face the term assimilation)... that's why some bosnian haplotypes are in common whith albanians(illyrians) and the other part what is different from albanians is slavic...
It's so easy to understand whith simple historical fact, why you have to be confused even here... do you want to draw to you in paint haha or you a have a short video about little kids to learn history: See it from the the sec. 35 to the end (1.17) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0tGOdHl7_0
+
... and of course, read more in this issue: Here you have many of them:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.139407142773730.23767.100001133356751&l=5e6b160e5a&type=1
... I send you whith link, in order to not upset other members here, who know what they seek, and for what they opened this topic (and are not trapped in slavic or greek propaganda like you, only because you are a slav, or the other one was greek)...
Even that in these kind of maps that you where posted, are evident the invasions of others, like slavs in this case, from Bullgaria. I saw you tendences only in geography and I write you in this way above (even that you didnt understand as always):
"Also, about maps, you have to understand that they don't describe the autochthony always, but they are the result of expensions (invasions). We have survival history and as you go deeper in time, will see that our territory is larger. Restriction (contraction) of our territory is continuous occurrence since prehistory, we can't boast with any map, except the oldest ones that comfort us a little bit (because contraction is lower).
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...3356751&type=1
We have also occupations maps that there is no Albania, but this does not mean that there was no Albanian ...
In fact these are maps that invasions are documented. Even just on the basis of maps of this kind, neighbors claim territories. And not whith autochthony."
- It would be better to continue talking with you. I gave you materials from linguistical, we don't have to search the old albanian language, because albanian today is old like it was... it was preserved from these self-issolated albanians, even that there were influences from invaders - atrocities, the language didnt were romanizated or hellenizated at all... these albanian words and these small semantic units in them, are a real treasure about the scientists, and with the method of comparison and etymology, they have concluded that this language is the oldest in Europe... Here you have also the answer about your only justification, why albanian language wasen't wrote before (although many have already deciphered ancient pelasgian inscriptions whith the Albanian language), they just survive in their mountains whith their own laws coming from the antiquity and they were not free to create science. But before greek and roman era, yes, this language was written, that's why today many pelasgian inscriptions are deciphered whith this language) - Elizabeth Pyatt, from Pennsylvania State University: Albanian might be considered very "old" and Greek pretty "new"- http://linguistlist.org/ask-ling/oldest.cfm
... in the same way, these conclusions came and for historical, symbolic, anthropological, cultural, geographic... components (you have example of all these components from the page 2,4,5 and 6 in this topic), that's proving once again the autochtony of albanians and the original link between them and ancient cultures around the Mediterranean... It will be nice to proceed talking whith you, to enable the posting of over 600 books from me, but here you like a deserter, leave your pseudo-nationalistic propaganda away, because it doesnt help anymore (especially when you have to argue something in multi components, then you are trapped)
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* Now, let's focus in the topic...
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