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Ok, what was the language of those Ostrogoths that conquered Rome?
I have no idea why people question their Germanic heritage. Every written word they left is Germanic. If they were Slavs why they wrote in Germanic?The Codex Argenteus was written by the Ostrogoths themselves (i.e. Ostrogothic literature) and thus ultimately provides the answer to that question [Answer: Germanic];
And the Ostrogoths/Theoderic did not conquer Rome (not the capitol since the Tetrarchy late 3rd cen AD) they conquered Ravenna (from Odoaker) late 5th cen AD;
I have no idea why people question their Germanic heritage. Every written word they left is Germanic. If they were Slavs why they wrote in Germanic?
There is some possibility that Ostrogoths brought a big contingent of Slavs into Balkans, as mercenaries or allies. The first wave of I2a-Dinaric?
I have no idea why people question their Germanic heritage. Every written word they left is Germanic. If they were Slavs why they wrote in Germanic?
There is some possibility that Ostrogoths brought a big contingent of Slavs into Balkans, as mercenaries or allies. The first wave of I2a-Dinaric?
There are at least 2 papers that set out to prove I2a Din is paleolithic in the Balkans by explicitly proving that it is NOT slavic.
If it's paleolithic, then "the grays" (Hg I) were in control of the whole central Europe before the arrival of Neolithic farmers and R1?
Considering the current spread where I2 peaks on Dinaric Alps and Carpathian mountains, it looks like they had been controlling the whole Balkans and started running to mountains when various ethnic groups entered Europe from the direction of Dardanelles, Maritsa and Danube.
In short, after reviewing available research, I think that I2a-Din has already been present in the Dinaric Alps before the Slavic expansion, probably already before Roman times. The question is just whether it originated there, or expanded from further north, maybe the Carpathians around the sources of Dniester and Tisza, sometimes in the Neolithic, the bronze or the iron age. Judged by the diversity maps, an arrival by sea looks quite unlikely.
I wonder how the I2a-Din pattern could have been brought about by Slavic expansion. More specifically:
- How could this expansion have strongly affected R1b, but left E-M78 and I1 untouched?
- Why would this expansion have led to such a strong concentration of I2a Din around Mostar, while reducing, instead of simultaneously enhancing, R1a in the area?
I seems to have a mainly West Caucasus distribution as well; this is a common European haplogroup; it has quite elevated frequencies among the Andis and Kara Nogays. It would be interesting to discover some historical correlate for the presence of I in Kara Nogays but not Kuban Nogays and in Andis but not in most of the NE Caucasus
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http://dienekes.blogspot.se/2011/09/caucasus-revisited-yunusbayev-et-al.html
The second one is R1b-U152, which indeed could be connected to Celts, and as you correctly noticed it is significantly more frequent in Western Croatia and Slovenia. This haplogroup is more interesting because it is young enough to be one more argument for late arrival of I2a-Din. It clearly drops in frequency in the area where I2a-Din settled, and that can be easily explained with I2a-Din coming after R1b-U152.
But how can you know for sure that the whole area wasn't inhabited with I2a-Din, and when R1b-U152 came from the north, I2a-Din slowly retreated to the mountains?
That is not true. My background is in Herzegovina. It is the least populated part of the Balkans together with Montenegro. It is the hottest place in Europe. I do not know why the Slavs came there from southern Polish and Ukraine :shocked:? There is a much better place for life .
Most of Herzegovina course. It is a favorite joke in Sarajevo .
What you want say with a link ? I living in Sarajevo and I dont need any explanation to any wiki.
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