Yes i excepted that but it turned out not to be true. I could aactually see that because as I collected 27 STR's from several studies for this haplotype it looked similar to the others so I said to the Serb dys392=12 guy, you separation was likely 1400 ybp..
But wait, hasn't Trojet identified an SNP which marks the transition into dys393=13? Greek has 12, so he still must be one step above..
According to YFulll he hasn't split the Z2705 node as is, so he is just another equivalent sub-branch to Zirnic, Selmani and Ownstyler. However, FTDNA uses BY38894 which he tested negative for while the rest of the samples there are BY38894+. BY38894 is pretty unstable SNP to begin with, though. YSEQ doesn't test it and YFull doesn't use it in their analysis either. So yeah, currently there he does represent an earlier split based on this unstable SNP....
I am hopping he upgrades to Y700 because his Big Y500 was pretty low coverage. If the coverage increases we might find another stable SNP that will represent that split. If that split ends up not being real, I am thinking 393 could have back-mutated on these samples - which is possible because I have seen 393=13 and 392=11 in one of the scientific studies (from Albania I believe).
Either way soon enough we will know what the deal is even if he doesn't upgrade. As we speak a 393=12 and 392=13 fella is returning his kit to Dante. Plus the new fella from Vlore sharing those mutations (393=12 and 392=11) just ordered a kit from Dante as well.