Macedonians

DejaVu said:

What was like the ancient Macedonian language?

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All of these words you referring are the Serbian.

"tshelnik" = čelnik = "leader of a group"
"tshelo" = čelo = "forehead"
"voinik" = vojnik = "soldier"
"vodi" "voden" = voden = "abudance of water"
"spila" = špilja = "hole in the stone"
"sudii" = sudija = "judge"
"zari se" = zari se = "thrust itself in"

etc.


You say that Ancient Macedonian was Serbian, so do you know how much you give wings Serbian nacionalists when it read.


And Serbian is very very similar to Croatian and Bosnian.

Therefore:

Bosnians can say that the ancient Macedonian actually Bosnian.

Croats can say that the ancient Macedonian is Croatian.

etc.

There is plenty of ancient, middle age and modern age narrative evidence concerning the analogy between the culture of the ancient Macedonians and the culture of the Veneti (ancestors of the "Slavs").


The Latin historian Quintus Curtius Rufus in his biography of Alexander The Great wrote that the Veneti from Asia Minor region of Paphlagonia took part in the army of Alexander The Great. Quintus Curtius Rufus mentioned an interesting piece of information. He wrote that Philotas, a Macedonian who was a naturilised Hellen, teased his fellow Macedonians by calling them "Phrygians or Paphlagians"40). He also wrote that the Macedonians were unhappy about this and complained to Alexander The Great. Two very important points to note here: Philotas equated the terms Phrygians and Paphlagonians. It is well known that the Phrygians (in the Balkans were known as Brygians) became the constitutional ethno-cultural core of the ancient Macedonians, whereas the term Paphlagonians represents a geographic name for Veneti, i.e. for the ancestors of the "Slavs". What this means actually is that Philotas equated the ancient Macedonians and the Veneti, and this happened before IV BC.
Even earlier than this, Herodotus wrote that Phrygians (ancient Macedonians) and Paphlagonians (ancestors of the "Slavs") wore very similar clothes 41).

There is narrative evidence regarding the analogy between the "Slav" and ancient Macedonian culture from a later period as well. The Byzantine historian and writer Nichephore Gregoras during his visit to the Macedonian town of Strumica in 1326, recorded that there he heard a large number of Macedonian folk songs. He affirms that, although he did not understand the language of the local population, the folk songs from Strumica definitely resembled - the Phrygian folk songs!42)
Also in the later periods a lot of foreign and Macedonian activists declared that the "Slavs" were the same people as the ancient Macedonians!
Mauro Orbini, in his book "The Kingdom of the Slavs" (1601), wrote about the presence of the "Slavs" during the period of Alexander The Great, even as a part of his army. In this book, Orbini published a document, which represents a Charter, that was sent to the "Slavs" by Alexander The Great as a gesture of gratitude for taking part in Alexander's battles 43). It is important to note that Alexander's biographer Quintus Curtius Rufus also wrote that the Veneti were a part of the Macedonian army.

The renowned Croatian historian from XVI century Vinko Pribichevich, in his book "About the Origin and the Adventures of Slavs" (Venice, 1532) asserts that ancient Macedonians are "Slavs". Middle-age Croatian reformists H. Lucich, D. Zatarich, I. Gundulich, J. Palmotich and others, also shared this belief and they all considered Alexander The Great a Slav. Matijan Alberti of Split (1561-1623) also supported this theory.

Ancient Macedonians were considered to be "Slavs" (Veneti) by a number of poets from Dubrovnik, and also a number of Russian historians: Butkov, Saveljev, Rostislavich and Chertkov, as well as archimandrites Leonid and Filrot. Mickevich from the Chair at the French College in Paris, in 1844 declared that the "Slavs are the oldest nation in Europe"44).

The German scholar Kuno, as well as the scholars Lelev and Bjeloski, put forward their assertion that not only the Hellenes but also the "Slavs" always lived on the Balkan peninsula, together with the Hellenes. The same was maintained by the highly distinguished Pavle J. Shafranich (who published a few books on this subject), as well as the Russian consul in Bitola, Hitrov. This theory was represented by some Serbian activists at the time 45).

Renown Croatian folklorist from Bosnia Stefan Verkovich during his extended visit to Macedonia in the 19th century recorded a large number of Macedonian folklore deeds and in his letter to the newspaper "Dragoljub" in Zagreb published in 1868 wrote: "The Slavs, and not the Greeks, are the forefathers of the civilisation"46).
In his work "Veda Slovena" (1874) Verkovich wrote:"Our Slavs had a lively tradition even in the times of Alexander The Great".

Bulgarian writer Stefan Zahariev claimed that the "Slavs" are the oldest inhabitants of the Balkans and their literacy dates prior to the brothers St. Cyril and St. Methodius47).

In an Albanian history book from the 19th century has been stated that the Macedonians are the indigenous people of the Balkans and that Alexander The Great was a "famous Macedonian-Slav tzar". These views were shared by renown Macedonian intelectuals from the 19th century: Isaija Mazhovski, Gjorgji Pulevski, Nikola D. Chuparov and others, who believed that the ancient Macedonians and the "Slavs" are in fact the same people48).

Although the official Macedonian historiography (especially during the totalitarian regime in the period after the World War II until its indepence) mainly considered such articulations as national-romanticism, the future research will show whether there is any truth to the above claims.

Garrick said:

All of these words you referring are the Serbian.

"tshelnik" = čelnik = "leader of a group"
"tshelo" = čelo = "forehead"
"voinik" = vojnik = "soldier"
"vodi" "voden" = voden = "abudance of water"
"spila" = špilja = "hole in the stone"
"sudii" = sudija = "judge"
"zari se" = zari se = "thrust itself in"

etc.


You say that Ancient Macedonian was Serbian, so do you know how much you give wings Serbian nacionalists when it read.


And Serbian is very very similar to Croatian and Bosnian.

Therefore:

Bosnians can say that the ancient Macedonian actually Bosnian.

Croats can say that the ancient Macedonian is Croatian.

etc.

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Thats why its important to do a research before claiming anything.

DejaVu said:

Kosovo is impossible to solve but the other balkan countries got no problem (only FYRO Macedonia with Greece about the name issue and identity).

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A lot wrong.

Albanians are now 25 to 30% of FYROM Macedonia population.

Studies show that the Albanian population in Macedonia increases much faster than the Macedonian.

For approximately thirty to thirty five years will almost equal the Albanian and Macedonian populations in Macedonia FYROM, and certainly then, Albanians and Turks together will surpass the Slavo Macedonians.

Initiate that Slavo Macedonians are the same as the ancient Macedonians just going into the hands of Albanians, and so now widely proclaimed that Alexander the Great is Albanian and that they are descendants of ancient Macedonians, and
can you imagine that someone will discover that the new proof which connect Ancient Macedonians and Albanians, what would happen?

No, you can not even imagine.

Actually today is run from the truth, FYROM Macedonians must a lot more work with the Albanians, but less with the Greeks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burushaski
The Burushaski or Burushko language (Urdu: بروشسکی burū́šaskī), is a language isolate (that is, not known to be related to any other language of the world). It is spoken by some 87,000 (as of 2000) Burusho people in the Hunza, Nagar, Yasin, and Ishkoman valleys and some parts of the Gilgit valley in the Northern Areas in Pakistan and by about 300 Burusho people in Srinagar, India.Other names for the language are Brugaski, Kanjut (Kunjoot), Verchikwār, Boorishki, Brushas (Brushias), and Miśa:ski.

Today Burushaski contains numerous loanwords from Urdu (including English and Sanskrit words received via Urdu), and from neighbouring Dardic languages such as Khowar and Shina, as well as a few from Turkic languages and from the neighboring Sino-Tibetan language Balti, but the original vocabulary remains largely intact. The Dardic languages also contain large numbers of loanwords from Burushaski.
There are three divergent dialects, named after the main valleys: Hunza, Nagar, and Yasin (also called Werchikwār). The dialect of Yasin is thought to be the least affected by contact with neighboring languages and is generally less similar to the other two than those are to each other; nevertheless all three dialects are mutually intelligible.



Ilija Chashule "Basic Burushaski Etymologies"(Muenchen Newcastle , ISBN 3 89586 0891) with the similarities between the modern Macedonian and Burushaski language:

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BU:
ASHMILAS, ASHMILJ = to pacify, placade, persuade, also MILI as a title for the beloved in folk song.
PRO-SLAV:
mil`= dear,
LYTV: mylas and meilus = dear.
MK:
MIL =dear, Smiluva, Smili = to pacify.

BU:
ASPALAS, ASPALJ = to kindle, light
PROSlAV:
Paliti = to burn, to set in flames.
MK:
SPALE,ZAPALE = to burn, to set in flames.

BU:
ASH = neck, nape of neck, external trhoat.The locativ of the ASH is ASHI
PSlav, MK:
Shija = neck.It is also related to the word SHITI = to sew

The BURushaski word in its special locative form both semantically and phonetically parallels Slavic.


BU:
BALKAS( IN LOCATIV: BILKIS) = treasure
SOUTH SLAV: BLAGO = treasure
MK NAME: BLAGA = treasure.

BU:
BERKAT = Berg, Mountain.
MK: BREG= Berg, Mountain.
PROSLAV:
BERG´ = berg, Mountain

BU:
BIRI= boiling
MK: VRIE = boiling...as so many times mentioned, B and V are changed many times, Servia=Serbia.

BU:
BÚR = a single hair.
ANC MK :
ABROUWES = eye brows
PRO SLAV, Old SLAV:
BRY, (GENETIV: BR'EVE) = eye brow.

BU:
D*- ASPASAS, D*-SPASASH = to protect, save, rescue.
MK:
SPASE = save,
DA SPASESH = to save someone.

BU:
DELAS, DELIAS, DELJ = 1)to beat, strike, smite, hit, shoot,...2) to kill to slay
SANSKRIT:
DALATI = crack, splits
PRO SLAV:
DELATI = to work.
MK:
DELIA = Mythical Hero who kills the Turks.

GARU( ALSO: GARÚKI) = spring

ALSO: GARÚM = hot GARÚRUM = hot, warm, AS NOUN: GARÚRUMKUSH = heat.

GARI = lamp, light , pupil of eye.

ANC MK:
GORPIAIOS = a hot Macedonian Month
MK:
GREE = warm, to warm
GARE= warming meal, cook soup.

BU:
GIRATAS; GIRASH = to dance, play
OLD SLAV, MK:
IGRA = dance, play
MK:
IGRASH = you play, nominative form from IGRA.


ENGLISH / BURUSHI / MACEDONIAN
HAND / SHAKA / SHAKA
Arm / RAKA / RAKA
Thunder / GROM / GROM
Raining / VRNE / VRNE
Looking / GLEDA / GLEDA
sit(down) / SEDI / SEDI
Drink / PIE / PIE
Beautiful /UBAVA / UBAVA

Garrick said:

A lot wrong.

Albanians are now 25 to 30% of FYROM Macedonia population.

Studies show that the Albanian population in Macedonia increases much faster than the Macedonian.

For approximately thirty to thirty five years will almost equal the Albanian and Macedonian populations in Macedonia FYROM, and certainly then, Albanians and Turks together will surpass the Slavo Macedonians.

Initiate that Slavo Macedonians are the same as the ancient Macedonians just going into the hands of Albanians, and so now widely proclaimed that Alexander the Great is Albanian and that they are descendants of ancient Macedonians, and
can you imagine that someone will discover that the new proof which connect Ancient Macedonians and Albanians, what would happen?

No, you can not even imagine.

Actually today is run from the truth, FYROM Macedonians must a lot more work with the Albanians, but less with the Greeks.

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No comment.

Sorry, but I havent seen so much ugly people as Albanians, take it as a comment Shqiptari.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-zEWFSPUCU - "see for yourself - albanian faces"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iggt2sy_-Ao - Albanians are actually Arabs (German documentary)

If the stealing of identity will continue then it will be the same for all and continue all the time and nobody will know who is who. Thats why its important to make no importance of identity or belonging. All can be European in EU and no more identities are needed (self-determination will continue to exist, but will not be needed to claim anything, there will be nothing to claim).

Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.

Oh GoD
Pella comes From Greek Pellos (mount Pelion)
Alexander him self says DEDIOKETAI TOIS PELLASIN Δεδιωκεται τοις Πελλασιν in India
Pella means old-strong-wise

Now phoinikos is phoenikos means killer the one who learned to kill
today is phoneas (man) phonikos (weapon)

tshelnikue
Even today the captain of a floak of goats or sheeps is named Tseligas in Greek
Tseligkas is the leader of the Tsopans and also the leader of the family-clan
Comes from the ancient Greek Zeu-Lynx means the Holy wild-cat (Lynx) that quards the tsopans not to steel, he is the judge and the policeman of the breeders,

Edessa
Water in Greek Ydor -Idor in Makedonian Vydros Vidros in Vrygian bedu -edu
that is why the Edessa means Tower in the water in Ancient Thracian-Phrygian
Βέδυ is linguistically connected to the Greek words "hydor" Greek: ύδωρ , "water", "bidra" Greek: βίδρα, Otter, "idros" Greek: ίδρως, sweat and "idrosa"Greek: ίδρωσα, sweated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edessa,_Greece
As you see The Makedonians Have Edessa not Vodenna

Pesh -Pat
The Ancient Greek word-verb for walk Is Paet-o ->Pat-o
walk around per-pat-o
That is Ariannos says Alexandros E-pat-axe-n aftis (Αλεξανδρος επαταξε αυτοις)
Means walk among them with weapon,

sarissa HAHAHAHAHA

aris-(s)a nominative
aridos possessive
aridι dative
arissa accusative
soldiers hold την αρισσα (thalassa etc)

arissa means drill weapon or tool
but also today in Greek
Sarothron a wipping tool with long wooden Stick
Sarakion a worm of wood
Arida long stick, also the feet of a tall man
Σαρωνω Sarono means I absolute win, sweep enemies (find out why)


DEJAVU COPY PASTE

STILL BULLSHIT TO SPAM

if SLAVIC is Mirca
in Greek IS MYRSINA or MYRSINA

any words you write is Greek or IE
spilja in Greek
is Andron (the habited cave)
Spilia Σπηλια the non habited cave, the calcium carst phenomena
is Pillon (the cave of a clay or calcium rock)
ΕΙΣ ΠΗΛΟΝ

MAN STOP F****** LANGUAGES :useless::useless::useless::useless::useless::useless::useless:

GLAUKA MEANS OWL
cause her eyes are Glau (glaf)
besides Glaukoma means something to you

you are a lunatic
a fanatic Blind

where did you find that meanings
in a cheap book of a stupid
Learn ancient Greek first and then you realize what means

All you say has a different meaning In Greek And MAkedonian,
What did you do?
you take 1-2-3 words and change meanings
well then a text has no meaning
ARE YOU NUTS
ALL THE WORLDS YOU MENTIONED HAVE ALSO A GREEK OR A IE OR ANOTHER MEANING


I GAVE YOU THAT
THE MOST AnCIENT LEXICON OF ANCIENT MAKEDONIAN
IS THERE ANY SLAVIC WORD?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Macedonian_language

Dejavu is a professional propagandist! lol

Vardarska for the Vardarskans!

ENGLISH / BURUSHI / MACEDONIAN


BU:
ASPALAS, ASPALJ = to kindle, light
PROSlAV:
Paliti = to burn, to set in flames.

AS YOU SAY PROSLAV

now stay In Slavic fake Makedonian
With your Original SERBIAN AND BULGARIAN KINGS

YOUR DREAM TO BE A MAKEDONIAN WILL NEVER COME TRUE

cause if you choose to a slavic (it is a priviledge)
then you Deny your Ancient Makedonian ROOT
IF YOU CHOOSE TO BE a Makedonian (another priviledge)
then you deny your slavic roots

ACCEPT IT AND CHOOSE
WE WILL ALWAYS BE HERE TO REMIND YOU YOUR HOAX

The Greeks
the Serbs
The Bulgarians
The Albanians
THE SCIENTISTS ALL OVER THE WORLD
THE ANCIENT SCIENTISTS
EVEN THE STONES AND THE COINS OF MY GRAND GRAND FATHERS

"He who hath an ear ..... have understanding"

"Research it .... know the truth"

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Ephesians 6:12

To call all words Greek is madness. Greek language is nothing but stolen words from other cultures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet
When the Phoenician alphabet was first uncovered in the 19th century, its origins were unknown. Scholars at first believed that the script was a direct variation of Egyptian hieroglyphs. This idea was especially popular due to the recent decipherment of hieroglyphs. However, scholars could not find any link between the two writing systems. Certain scholars[who?] hypothesized ties with Hieratic, Cuneiform, or even an independent creation, perhaps inspired by some other writing system. The theories of independent creation ranged from the idea of a single man conceiving it, to the Hyksos people forming it from corrupt Egyptian.

The Paleo-Hebrew alphabet, used to write early Hebrew, was a regional offshoot of, but was rooted in Phoenician; it is nearly identical to the Phoenician one. The Samaritan alphabet, used by the Samaritans, is a direct descendant of the Paleo-Hebrew alphabet.
The Aramaic alphabet, used to write Aramaic, is another descendant of Phoenician. Aramaic being the lingua franca of the Middle East, it was widely adopted. It later split off (due to power/political borders) into a number of related alphabets, including the Hebrew alphabet, the Syriac alphabet, and the Nabataean alphabet. Thus Phoenician was the origin of the Arabic alphabet which is the major alphabet of the Arabic Middle East - from Iraq, the Levant, and North Africa.

According to Herodotus, Phoenician prince Cadmus was accredited with the introduction of the Phoenician alphabet—phoinikeia grammata, "Phoenician letters"—to the Greeks, who adapted it to form their Greek alphabet, which was later introduced to the rest of Europe. Herodotus, who gives this account, estimates that Cadmus lived sixteen hundred years before his time, or around 2000 BC. However, Herodotus' writings are not used as a standard source by contemporary historians. The Greek alphabet is derived from the Phoenician alphabet. The phonology of Greek being different from that of Phoenician, the Greeks modified the Phoenician script to better suit their language. It was particularly more important in Greek to write out vowel sounds: Phoenician being a Semitic language, words were based on consonantal roots that permitted extensive removal of vowels without loss of meaning, a feature absent in the Indo-European Greek. For this reason the Greeks adapted some of the signs of the Phoenician script that represented unused consonants for vowels. For example ʾāleph, which designated a glottal stop in Phoenician, was re-purposed to represent the vowel /a/.
The Cyrillic alphabet was derived from the Greek alphabet. Some Cyrillic letters are based on Glagolitic forms, which were influenced by the Hebrew alphabet.[citation needed]
The Latin alphabet was derived from Old Italic (originally a form of the Greek alphabet), used for Etruscan and other languages. The Runic alphabet also seems to have been derived from an early form of Old Italic alphabet, via the Alpine scripts.

Most historians believe that the Brahmi script and the subsequent Indic alphabets are derived from the Aramaic script as well, which would make Phoenician the ancestor of most writing systems in use today. This possibly includes even hangul, which may have been influenced by Brahmic Phagspa. This would mean that of all the major national scripts in use in the world today, only the Chinese script and its derivatives have an independent origin.

DejaVu said:

"He who hath an ear ..... have understanding"

"Research it .... know the truth"

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
Ephesians 6:12

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He who Speaks truth have nothing to fear,

You can't serve two masters,
either you Betrayed one,
Ancient Makedonians or Slavic people

12 “To the angel of the church in Pergamum write: These are the words of him who has the sharp, double-edged sword. 13 I know where you live—where Satan has his throne. Yet you remain true to my name. You did not renounce your faith in me, not even in the days of Antipas, my faithful witness, who was put to death in your city—where Satan lives.
14 Nevertheless, I have a few things against you: There are some among you who hold to the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to entice the Israelites to sin so that they ate food sacrificed to idols and committed sexual immorality. 15 Likewise, you also have those who hold to the teaching of the Nicolaitans. 16 Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
17 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give some of the hidden manna. I will also give that person a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to the one who receives it.




Revelation 2

in other words

There are some among you who hold to the teaching of Communism, who taught Tito to entice the Slavic people to sin so that they ate food sacrificed to GREEKS and committed sexual immorality

Repent therefore!


known only to the one who receives it.
you are not cause your Language and knowledge is Far beyond to realize the words of Argeians


Ancient Makedonia is one, and was is and wiil be Greek 3000 years
Slavic-Makedonia is a free state with modern roots 1500 years,

Illyrian language
Indo-European language spoken in pre-Roman times along the eastern coast of the Adriatic Sea and in southeastern Italy.
The language of the Illyrian fragments found in Italy is usually called Messapic, or Messapian.
Some scholars believe the modern Albanian language (?????????) (q.v.) to be descended from Illyrian.

Those scholars are so blind...

DejaVu said:

No comment.

Sorry, but I havent seen so much ugly people as Albanians, take it as a comment Shqiptari.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-zEWFSPUCU - "see for yourself - albanian faces"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iggt2sy_-Ao - Albanians are actually Arabs (German documentary)

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DejaVu
I am neither Serbian nor Albanian nationalists, I am a researcher.

I read many sources and opposing one another, to gather its findings.

The Albanians I would never underestimate, they will soon overtake the number of Bulgarians in the Balkans, and be the fifth nation in population after the Turks, Romanians, Greeks and Serbs.

And the Albanian population is the youngest.


You can see how Albanias see Macedonia:

(Clip Youtube)

"The writings of Ancient Greek and Roman authors confirm implicitly the Illyrian identity of Ancient Macedonians: Pliny the Elder [IV, X, 33], Strabo [7,7,1; 7.7.8; 7, 11], Ptolemy [3,12]

Based on this clear information, a large number of historians and linguists of the XIX-th and XX-th century uphold a hypothesis on Illyrian identity of Macedonians. We can mention here: Karl Otfrid Muller, William Smith, Charl Anthony, G. Finlay etc.

Later on, other well known linguists that do support the thesis of Illyrian essence in the Ancient Macedonians language are: G. Kazaroff, M. Rostovtzeff, M. Budimir, H. Baric (Miltiades Hatzopoulos: 1999).

Even the greatest supporters of the hypothesis that the Macedonians were Greeks, do accept a strong influence of the Illyrian language into the Ancient Macedonian language.

Paliga states: “It is therefore difficult to say ehether the ancient Macedonians spoke idiom closer to Thracian, Illyrian, Greek or a specific idiom.” (Paglia cited in Fol 2002 : 219)

Hammond accepts that when: “the Macedonians expanded, they overlaid and lived with peoples who spoke Illyrian, Paeoninan, Thracian and Phrygian, and they certainly borrowed words from them which excited the authors of lexica and glossaries”. (Hammond: 1989)

To be fair, the debate on the characteristics of the Macedonian language is still unfinished, because there are: ‘theories varying from a basically Illyrian “creole” to a Greek-thracian-illyrian ‘pidgin’. (Anastasios-Phoivos Christides 2007)

Archaeological data show an undisputable Illyrian presence in the Ancient Macedonia. Archaeological findings in Vergina (Aigai – an Illyrian fondation, i.e capital of Ancient Macedonia) show similarity as well as uniformity to the Glasinac culture.

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The latest archaeological findings do support this statement. Here, we can mention the table with inscriptions found a decade ago near Greek-Macedonian border.

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The most reasonable and logical explanation regarding the etymology of the name of the Ancient Macedonia is found in the language of Illyrians and Epirotes, who were the ethnic inhabitants of Ancient Macedonia.

The very name of Macedonia, formerly known as ‘Emathia,’ derives in all probability from the Albanian word “E Madhia”, meaning “The Greatest”. (Larned et al 1922)

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Even during the Medieval times, the Byzantine writers refer to Albanians as Macedonians. Macedonian at that time marked someone who spoke Albanian. Until about the fifteenth century Albanians were not called Albanians but Illyrians, or even Macedonians.

This means that the terms Macedonian, Illyrian and Albanian were interchangeable and were used to note the Medieval Albanian. At that time, even the educated Albanians were signing and declaring themselves as Macedonianas.

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As shown above, the ancient written material, the archaeological findings, as well as mythological, ethnographical and linguistic material, they all testify to the fact that Macedonia was and is Albanian during 4000 years of her history.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=97NS-uZMohw


And you can see modern times in Macedonia FYROM

Albanians promote statue of Skenderbeg, Skopje

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptp0WaDnqsA&feature=related

Looks like you are afraid of your own shadow.

If you did not notice so far in modern times its about United States and their way to rule the world. Illuminati, Freemasons, Skulls and bones . . .

Dont forget - "What goes around comes around"

DejaVu said:

Looks like you are afraid of your own shadow.

If you did not notice so far in modern times its about United States and their way to rule the world. Illuminati, Freemasons, Skulls and bones . . .

Dont forget - "What goes around comes around"

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DejaVu
These are serious and respected researchers, you can read their biographies:

Karl Otfried Müller (August 28, 1797–August 1, 1840), was a German scholar and Philodorian, or admirer of ancient Sparta, who introduced the modern study of Greek mythology.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Otfried_M%C3%BCller

Sir William Smith Kt. (1813–1893) was a noted English lexicographer.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Smith_(lexicographer)

Charles Anthon (November 19, 1797 – July 29, 1867) was an American classical scholar, born in New York City.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Anthon

George Finlay (1799–1875), historian, of Scottish descent, was born at Faversham, Kent, where his father, an officer in the army, was inspector of government powder mills.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Finlay

[QUOTE=DejaVu;364841]Illyrian language
Indo-European language spoken in pre-Roman times along the eastern coast of the Adriatic Sea and in southeastern Italy.
The language of the Illyrian fragments found in Italy is usually called Messapic, or Messapian.
Some scholars believe the modern Albanian language (?????????) (q.v.) to be descended from Illyrian.

Those scholars are so blind. ..

[/QUOTE]

english Ancient Greek IE Non IE Greek Tyrrshenian Thrasian?
a stream rea roe- rema Lun
water Hydor (idor) idro neto notismeno animeno thrassian Edu
swamp Elos Barikos Balticos baltos Telma Louni-Luni thrasian Bara
puddle Limn-e Limen-e Pellag-os = Sea, Pelago
woman Gyn-i Gen-e (Gwen) Gre-a (γραια)
Brother Frater -> a-terf-os
husks of grapes (φλοιοι)floie-vlioie GRMAK Vlid-es stemfila stipura
dog κυων ceon Kion (skilos from skula)
cow agelas kthnos-ktinos
cow niples maesti
famous Femis-menos but also Cleιnon Κλεινον Αστυ Kleos-Gleo = Grorius
wolf lykos λυκος Gr Mak (Danat-os, end of life-death)
oak Drus Dris, Gr Mak BALLA Dorian Belan-os (-idia), Kerk-ops(athenean old language, Tyrrshenian)
lake Lugo Thracian Lago porto lagos
great Meg-as GR MAK Taran-os Dorian Tarant-as Teran
horse Pollos (foal), Epibetor Ippos (Alogon=no speech)
between Mesa , meta + dative case
lake Limne
waterfall ydatoptosis -ydroptosis Kataraktis,
GR MAK oessa-essa (Edessa=edu+ossa), Gr Aeolian Oetta ss=tt thalatta=thalassa also ss=δ=d (Mt Ossa Mt Oite city Edessa) Tyrrshenian

strong Sthenaros Gr Makedonian Pellios Pellasin= makedonian council of strong Families Gr Aeolian-Thessalian Pallios palle= wrestling (ancient olympic game)
Tyrsshenian Thracian Pell-Pall mt Pellion, pellekis= axe (strong edge)

clouds nefel GrMAK nevel also syn+nefel=synnefo
salt als-alat
spear aris-(sa) (to drill-penetrate) dori (from oak tree) akontio-ekontio (javelin)
Homeric (a)ksifei (sharp metal) Λογχη = lonche (the sharp metal infront of spear)
merchant Fertos (tertos also tertip-os) Non IE emporos
tribe people Φυλλη Phyll- Phill (fill) NonΙΕ Edos-Ednos (Mak-ednos) also ethnos
Tyrrshenian Thracian edi-ethi (apsynthi, bithini, maedi Sithones-Sethones melanditae Paeti Aedi mygdones

ves καλος αριστος ev (ευ) ev+genos = kind Noble
ev+arestos = goodlooking
ev+echo = good wish etc

good spirits Evoion-a Evion Evchae



Want more Deja Vu?
or you can't speak Ancient Makedonian

ALL THE WORDS YOU GIVE ARE IE
YOU MUST FIND THE NON IE TO CONNECT PEOPLE
UNDERSTAND THAT
YOU CAN'T GIVE IE WORDS AND COMPARE
YOU MUST FIND THE NON IE LANGUAGE TO COMPARE
SO STOP BULLSHIT PROPAGANDA