So you have no point. Those who want to use it do it anyway. Everyone already knows it is not particularly harmful.Mitsuo Oda said:People already abuse Alcohol. So why would we want people to have easier access to marijuana? Marijuana is already being abused, and it's not even legalized.
No brain cells are killed by THC. Evidence suggests the contrary, that it has a protective effect.Mitsuo Oda said:Not to mention the many more braincells that are killed by smoking reefer than by drinking alcohol.
Nicotine is a drug. The above is like saying cannabis isn't a drug.Mitsuo Oda said:Tobacco isn't a drug.
It is already easily available to anyone that wants it. Shortages are effectively non-existent.Mitsuo Oda said:If Marijuana is legalized, that will make it more succeptible for people to use it.
It is significantly less likely to lead to accidents. It only marginally impairs physical co-ordination at normal doses and has been found to have almost no effect on driving ability. As the dose increases so does the impairment, but we're talking about orders of magnitude less impairment than that induced by alcohol.Mitsuo Oda said:Thus, bringing more accidents. Marijuana is a hallucinogen, alcohol isn't. Marijuana can be a much more dangerous substance. (It can have worse affects on the brain then alcohol)
I'm glad to hear that prohibition makes this impossible. You do understand and realise that cannabis is readily available anywhere, anytime to anyone that wants it. Not really any different to it being illegal except the price is a bit higher and it wastes a lot police time and resources.Mitsuo Oda said:Also, legalizing it will give people the ability to consume both alcohol and marijuana at the same time, making a more dangerous affect on the human body.
If alcohol is having the dangerous effect you mention shouldn't we ban it?
Complete rubbish.Mitsuo Oda said:I have heard that you can smoke it and have no affects at all, but then later in life start having hallucinations. (I have just heard that, not saying I know for
I heard the moon was made out of cheese, then Wallace and Gromit went there and confirmed it.
As far as I have to. It is my choice. Do you lecture rock climbers about how dangerous it is? What about skydivers? And people who ride bicycles? You can get badly hurt doing those things and people do all the time. It really is time our government did something about this and banned these dangerous activities to protect people from themselves.Mitsuo Oda said:Seriously though, How far are we willing to go, just to have some extra "fun"?
The government pretense is that some drugs are illegal because they are dangerous. The argument immediately falls apart because they allow, and make lots of money off, two very dangerous drugs that kill millions. And no I don't support the idea these two drugs should be illegal, people have every right to do themselves in.Mitsuo Oda said:People say, "If we make Marijuana illegal, then we should get rid of Alcohol, and tobacco",
Absolutely correct, methampetamine, MDMA, LSD, psilocybin, 2C-B, everything, should be legally available to adults.Mitsuo Oda said:Well, then I say this. "If we allow Marijuana to become legal, then we should legalize ecstasy" Too far? Nah!
I certainly hope so. Maybe my children or grandchildren will live in a saner world where we don't have goverment thugs harassing people for their choice of chemical entertainment.Mitsuo Oda said:If we legalize it, then I think a push for legalization for other drugs will happen.
We don't, there is no reason why we would. We accept that people, being human, are going to want to take drugs and experience things. What we want is to minimise any direct harm that might occur.Mitsuo Oda said:We have to remember, we want to stop drugs, not promote it.
Please not that old rubbish again.Mitsuo Oda said:Also, Marijuana use makes people more willing to try other drugs,
Some people who eat popcorn go on to eat chocolate. Popcorn is a gateway snack.
Maybe, no big deal. There's no real harm in taking some cocaine instead of having a beer. Maybe taking LSD is your Saturday afternoon kick while others are out drinking and being hooligans. Go for it.Mitsuo Oda said:"Hey, maybe if I take a stronger drug,
They're self-promoting already. Only conformists actually believe the drivel we get fed by the anti-drug propaganda machine.Mitsuo Oda said:My point is, legalizing drugs only promotes drugs.
And let's not forget that anti-drug campaigners are the biggest promoters of drugs. They go from school to school telling children about a wide range of interesting chemicals of which they had not previously heard. They also emphasise that taking them is bad and naughty. This is remarkably effective, at telling teenagers about all their options and encouraging them to give them a try.
We absolutely should, that's why they should be made legal. It is easier for a 12 year old to buy heroin, than a light beer. Because purveyors of illegal substances don't ask for ID, your local alcohol (drug) dealer has to have a license and ask for ID.Mitsuo Oda said:We should try to limit our access to drugs.
It can't.Mitsuo Oda said:Besides it can make you stupid.
And the black market will continue. Adults will exercise their right to make their own choice about whether to use drugs and which drugs to use. No-one cares what the government thinks.Mitsuo Oda said:So, closely monitored, distributed by prescription for medical reasons is fine with me.
So what? Same thing as people who operate illegal alcohol production facilities for the purpose of sale. The average person would rather buy from a reliable source. Anyway your scenario of low-priced under the counter cannabis immediately eliminates the welathy violent drug kingpin. We'd be left with a few entrepeneurs making some money on the side. And why take the risk of arrest and jail time when you can just get a cannabis license?Mitsuo Oda said:They may have a massive supply of it, and sell it to people for less money, than what the gov sells it for
And? I can brew my own beer, wine and spirits. I can even give it to my friends at a party, but I cannot sell it.Mitsuo Oda said:people will be growing it up the wazoo.
They shouldn't, it is none of their business, unless it is offered for sale. And then their only concerns are that you have paid for your license, that they are getting their taxes and that you're not selling to minors.Mitsuo Oda said:So, how can the government supervise this?
In which case you're arguing against yourself. If it can't be regulated then criminalization is a de facto waste of resources.Mitsuo Oda said:I still think Marijuana is too hard to regulate
A myth. Long debunked. Most people start with alcohol, therefore it should be labelled the gateway drug.Mitsuo Oda said:Marijuana is a gateway drug.
Never happens. There is near zero tolerance even amongst heavy users who have been smoking for decades.Mitsuo Oda said:If people stop getting the excitement from smoking it
History has shown that the chances of getting caught are somewhere near zero. Even in countries where the penalties are severe people go ahead and try it anyway. Anyone who wanted to just try it could do so with absolute safety.Mitsuo Oda said:Another thing is that, the people who don't do it because they are afraid of getting caught will start
It is fine, since in general recreational drugs are not exceptionally harmful.Mitsuo Oda said:Either way, it's not good.
In order to prove your point you would have to demonstrate that those people would not otherwise have used other drugs. Most people try cannabis first because it is more easily available than anything else. On the other hand I've met numerous people who tried LSD, cocaine or heroin first, simply because those were the drugs most readily available when they decided to explore chemically-induced altered states other than alcohol. Strictly speaking alcohol and in some cases tobacco was the gateway drug. For some it can even be caffeine.Mitsuo Oda said:A gateway drug is a drug that gives users a much higher potential to try other drugs.
It is called a sample. You can never test every instance so you test a sample. The sample has to be carefully chosen so as not to skew the results. Basic statistics really.Mitsuo Oda said:A stat purposely twisted around or exaggerated to prove a point or make it in favor in the way a group or person wants it.