Don't ignore the 'ignore list'.

[kirei_na_me]

In the past few days, some of you might have noticed that there have been numerous conflicts going on.

This forum used to not be this way. In 10 years of being on the internet, I had not been on a more sane forum. For Thomas' sake, we will not let it go down the drain. I'm sorry.

If you get riled at anything a particular person says, please put them on your Ignore List. If you feel like you're just going to spontaneously combust at the very sight of another person's name, put them on ignore.

If we continue to have these confrontations featuring personal attacks where nothing short of "yo mama" is being said, we will start doing more than just deleteing posts and givng bad reps. We'll have to start banning people, either temporarily or permanently, depending on the 'crime'.

Please use those ignore lists and please show some consideration.

Thank you.

[RockLee]

Well said Kirei ....hope the ppl will be smart enough to use it.

[Frank D. White]

I used to watch for new people who joined but did not post. I would PM them and say feel free to post; people on this Forum are SOOO polite & SOOO friendly, there are no fights or disagreements!(almost never) Then we have a running battle through 6 or 8 different threads and I look like an idiot for bragging how great the Forum is!
I guess I will become a "lurker" and keep my fingers quiet?

Frank

[Arch]

I agree, i havent been hear too long, but about a year. When i first joined , they was no argument what so ever. They has been increasing disrespect for other peoples opinions and people just been plain rude. But im sure things can improve, i dint know the lists existed !
Thx very much for posting

[TwistedMac]

I SEE THE GLARES!!

okok, i'll be good...

[bossel]

Kirei is absolutely right, better ignore people than to go into tit-for-tat battles.
If you are someone who can't ignore others that talk to you, try to counter their insults with arguments. Sometimes even that helps, since they might get bored when they can't provoke you.

[Lina Inverse]

Well said, kirei!
I hope people start using that list and behave again.

[jeisan]

and as always if there is a problem everyone should feel free to contact any of us mods/advisors/admins, prefereably one who's online at the time, to get things taken care of.

[kirei_na_me]

and as always if there is a problem everyone should feel free to contact any of us mods/advisors/admins, prefereably one who's online at the time, to get things taken care of.

Exactly. I think we're pretty approachable, ne? If there's a problem, we'll try to help the best way we know how.

[Elizabeth]

If we continue to have these confrontations featuring personal attacks where nothing short of "yo mama" is being said, we will start doing more than just deleteing posts and givng bad reps. We'll have to start banning people, either temporarily or permanently, depending on the 'crime'.

Cutting wayward juniors out of the point system entirely sounds brutal but it would most likely stop such squabbles dead.

[Arch]

I SEE THE GLARES!!

okok, i'll be good...

lol nah, your as funny as hell even why you say stuff about me !

[cacawate]

Exactly. I think we're pretty approachable, ne? If there's a problem, we'll try to help the best way we know how.

ROCK! I'll be the first!

[Golgo_13]

It won't allow me to ignore Admin people!!!!

[jeisan]

i dont think you need an ignore list for that golgo.

[Jean-Francois]

Ignoring others is my strength. Some people call it a weakness, but I would just ignore them and their comments altogether and as usual. I am really good at it. No ignoring list is necessary.

Note: I am cool with people who ignore me too.

[Japanimaniac]

This is a really good point. I just joined in the beginning of October, and the reason was because everyone on here seemed pretty mature and was more interested in talking about Japan than bashing each other. That's gone away a little bit in the last couple weeks. I know nothing gold can stay, but let's try to keep it shiny for as long as possible, eh?

[Dutch Baka]

wow people really fight on this forum.....

its over now i hope...
Kirei when you ever need help... dont kick people out... i can talk to them, and i will give them some kind of LOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ( wht am i talking about....)

if that doesnt help... well you know what to do....

but lets hope people stay nice to each other....

[Mycernius]

Nobody on this forum has wound me up enough to use the ignore list or bad rep them. One or two have come close, but I can just read their posts and take a time out and think to post or not to post. I find humour a good way out of these bad situations. If that doesn't work then I will not answer them and go down to their level.

I used to watch for new people who joined but did not post. I would PM them and say feel free to post; people on this Forum are SOOO polite & SOOO friendly, there are no fights or disagreements!(almost never) Then we have a running battle through 6 or 8 different threads and I look like an idiot for bragging how great the Forum is!
I guess I will become a "lurker" and keep my fingers quiet?

Frank

Don't bcome a lurker Frank. It makes you sound as if you live in a dark, dank basement. Your posts and wisdom bring that ray of light to us all and keep most of us sane

[ironman]

In the past few days, some of you might have noticed that there have been numerous conflicts going on.If we continue to have these confrontations featuring personal attacks where nothing short of "yo mama" is being said, we will start doing more than just deleteing posts and givng bad reps. We'll have to start banning people, either temporarily or permanently, depending on the 'crime'. Please use those ignore lists and please show some consideration.Thank you.

Are there bannings now? The expat site I am a member of in Taiwan seems to have a regular banning going on. Say one a month or so.

[Tim33]

I agree these attacks need to stop. I have tried to remain calm my whole time being in this place though sometimes i lash out or say something that is not really nessesary. It can be very hard to just sit back and not reply. Maybe ignor is the way to go.

I think there was a banning recently Ironman

[Japanimaniac]

The problem with ignoring is that even though you can't stand the person, you might just miss an important part of a thread by not seeing one of their posts. I know my typing and emotions got ahead of my brain a couple times, but I've always tried to apologize or explain myself. Fortunately, (most) people here are (usually) mature, and there have only been little bursts of actual conflict here and there.

This is the only forum I've ever actually been proud to be a part of, and I hope it stays that way.

[kirei_na_me]

Are there bannings now? The expat site I am a member of in Taiwan seems to have a regular banning going on. Say one a month or so.

People are banned if they break the rules.

This forum, in general, is a fantastic forum. I have said many times, that in my 11 years of internet use, this is the best internet community I've ever been around. However, there are still some people who come here for the wrong reasons. I'm not talking about the regular spammers. I'm talking about people who have got some real beef with Japan or the Japanese and want to throw around insults and personal attacks. Or really just anyone who has a short fuse and wants to fight about something. It just will not be tolerated. If that means banning, then so be it.

We usually try to give out warnings prior to banning, but if someone oversteps considerably, they could be banned without warning. It's usually discussed between the team members before anything is done, or after, in some cases(when adjustments can be made, if necessary). We usually try to be in on everything together by getting each other's opinions about someone or something.

I would say that we have a pretty high tolerance around here. I think we're an open-minded bunch, despite what some biased people would think...

Anyway, happy posting!

P.S. - It's always good to know the rules.

[ironman]

People are banned if they break the rules.
Anyway, happy posting! P.S. - It's always good to know the rules.

Thanks for the update. Doubt I'll come to the attention of anybody for a banning. Rules look quite similar to the Taiwanese forum I am a member of and I've managed around 650 posts without causing much trouble.

I only came in to look around but I am so damned impressed with the site I might stay and post on occasion (If I don't annoy you guys too much) Even be fun to tie up a ski trip and one of your expat gatherings later this year. Who knows.

The Taiwanese site has had a recent commotion and is recovering now. They do it pretty well but as must happen here as well, you can't please everyone.

[Sensuikan San]

I think I should add my two-cents worth on this one ...

I do feel that I was at least becoming 'one of the guilty ones' on "a certain thread" over the last few days !

Just let me apologise to all those who feel that I may have gone over the top a tad in venting my spleen.

But I have the greatest respect for the general tone of this forum, and hate to see it (and any other forum) misused.

Regards to all...

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[Mycernius]

I think I should add my two-cents worth on this one ...

I do feel that I was at least becoming 'one of the guilty ones' on "a certain thread" over the last few days !

Just let me apologise to all those who feel that I may have gone over the top a tad in venting my spleen.

But I have the greatest respect for the general tone of this forum, and hate to see it (and any other forum) misused.

Regards to all...

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What? I hadn't noticed. No worries, I felt you left in time, just as others were starting to leave.
I have put one person on the ignore list, but he no longer appears to post here, so he has been removed. I like to see what is being said, even if I don't like it.
I have only ever joined one other forum and that depresses me as people like to flame each other with abuse, so I no longer use it. I have seen it on other forums as well. That is what I like about Jref, everyone is usually very nice and polite. You get the occassional abuse, but it is usually dealt with very quickly (thanks admins) and order is quickly restored. So I will continue posting (I can hear you groan) and keep having FUN!
(I like these smilies, maybe I should use them more )