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    Why do people Die



    Why do people die? really think about it?

    you grown up, studie all your life, get a wife/husband, make children, work hard... and then YOU DIE....

    why cant people get 200 years old or something like that?

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    True... it's a horrible thing when someone close to us, or a good person dies... There's no really effective word to describle it, really... Maybe it's because that's the way things are meant to work, maybe it's just due to our lack of technologies to acheive immortaility... But people are living longer now. Isn't death a good thing in some cases, though? Without it, the world would be even worse with overpopulation... Maybe reproduction wouldn't be needed then, if people lived forever but that doesn't work because then there wouldn't be enough of any species... "Bad" people die, and that's considered a good thing. The world works in perfectly, and this is just part of how it works.
    Sorry for being so harsh, but it's how I see it and the only answer I really have for the question you asked... If you've lost someone... You have my deepest, most heartfelt sympathy, as well as anyone it has touched... Death is definitely not an easy thing to cope with.
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    i havnt recently just i wonder about why people die, its treu about the over population, keep the system in Balance ... your not harsh just the way it is...

    maby in some years when we can build on mars and the moon etc, we have more space for people,,, but yeah, my believe is that in around 100.000 years everything will be the same as now,, because the world will die, and it will be born again, like it always will do... my opinion...

    nice post,its about the balance, just as good and evil... meaning of live, balance?

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    I wont die. I'll live and live and live.

    Why did this thread had to be started? Can't keep away, but still I don't wanna talk about it... *cries*

    I vote for a 200 years long life!

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    sorry isayhello my dear (wakra swenska flicka) didnt wanted to make you feel down, just a qeustion that sometimes need to be ask, one way i feel sorry i ask this qeustion yes,,, im a HAppy person like you to ( are you? miss suicide club would be right name for you to maby? ) but yeah, maby dying is a happy thing? and maby it isnt

    i will vote for 200 years to... just i hope i will look Kakoii till my 150 year haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by dutch baka
    sorry isayhello my dear (wakra swenska flicka) didnt wanted to make you feel down, just a qeustion that sometimes need to be ask, one way i feel sorry i ask this qeustion yes,,, im a HAppy person like you to ( are you? miss suicide club would be right name for you to maby? ) but yeah, maby dying is a happy thing? and maby it isnt

    i will vote for 200 years to... just i hope i will look Kakoii till my 150 year haha
    Oh wooow, your swedish skills are VERY good! *giggle*

    No, it's OK. I'd rather talk about it like this than just think about it when I'm alone or something.
    I'm mostly a happy person, so Miss Suicide Club wouldn't be a very fitting name, despite my siggy. But the movie's cool... XD

    Live for 200 years and NEVER age. That's the solution!

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    Arigato,, mmm i geuss wakra swenska flicka is a better proper word to say then wilt du knulle haha ( joke)

    im happy that you say its just the sigie,,, even the movie is cool, i liked it too,, its when you think serieus about it, dangerous thinking for people who have plans to end ther live.... so i have a double feeling about the movie

    200 is great,, but never age i dont know if that would be nice,,, then the person that is 100 younger then me, or older, look alsmost same as me... that wouldnt be fair i think... hehe... maby it would be some use with color...

    from 0-40 everybody is red... from 40-80 everybody is green 80-120 purple 120-160 yellow and 160-200 pink

    but to stay serieus ... death is a strange thing i dont know if im afraid of it yes or no,, just im afraid to die before i wanted to do the things i want to do in life...

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    There's an old joke that goes:
    'Why do men die before their wifes?
    Because they want to'
    On a serious note. There has been research into stem cells that could extend the human lifespan to a thousand years. If so what would you do? Are humans capable of coping, mentally, with that type of age span? What would be the implications of population growth when you have an aging population that won't die? If humans didn't die would our intellect become stagnant because no new ideas are allowed to come through from a younger generation? Imagine what the world would be like if the people from the Dark ages to early middle ages where still alive today. Their world was one of superstition. Their age and experience would put them in positions of extreme power and from there could keep any new, radical ideas from poping up. Ideas that would threaten their power. I really think we would have not made the progress we have today if these people did not die. In the 20th century the Catholic Church finally recognised the teachings of Gallilo. Imagine what it would be like if the Borgias where still there?

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    It scares the hell outta me when i think that some day i'll cease to exist, and i see my life as this tiny little line next to the great long line of history. Here i am on the earth and this is not a dream
    Well now... thats something new...
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    people die many times even during their lifetime.

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    You really caused me think here dutch baka. We die because we must. If everyone lived for 200 years or so we would overpopulate the planet and use up all its resources. We would become a "cancer" on the planet. And what is cancer but cells that never die. They just keep reproducing and reproducing until they finally destroy the one thing that is giving them life and sustaining life. If humans did not die we would become like a cancer to the earth and eventually kill it much like a cancer kills the human body.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycernius
    Imagine what the world would be like if the people from the Dark ages to early middle ages where still alive today. Their world was one of superstition. Their age and experience would put them in positions of extreme power and from there could keep any new, radical ideas from poping up. Ideas that would threaten their power. I really think we would have not made the progress we have today if these people did not die. In the 20th century the Catholic Church finally recognised the teachings of Gallilo. Imagine what it would be like if the Borgias where still there?
    Would anyone really want to live to be 200 years old? I wouldn't. The old has to give way to the new as Mycernius so correctly stated. All the old people I ever speak to only say, "I remember when. These young people have no idea what it was like back in my day. Things are really getting bad these days." etc.

    I just turned 50 a few months ago and for the first time in my life started to give reflection on my life.

    More than half my life is over. I may only have another 20-40 years remaining on this planet if I stay as healthy as I am. It's hard to comprehend in some ways, but something I have learned to accept. I know the person that is "me" will not die. Just this shell of a human body. I've witnessed many things in my life so far and hope to witness more.

    -I remember when the Beetles first came to the US and played on TV
    -I remember distinctly where I was and who I was with when President Kennedy, Martin Kuther King, and Robert Kennedy were asassinated.
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    -When my first computer was 25mhz, had 4mb of ram and a 120mb hard drive. The best of it's time. ($3,000!) I remember asking the instructor, "What happens when we reach the 120mb limit?" His reply: "That will never happen."

    Mycernius is correct. The old must give way to the new or new things and technology will never advance.

    I could go on and on, but I guess you get the picture.

    Hell, it was 32 years ago that I first set foot in Japan for 16 glorious (well, let's be honest here, "great") years. The best years of my life! To think that I may have less than half that time remaining is quite, for lack of a better word, unbelievable. But I've accepted it as a fact of life. I could die tomorrow of a heart attack or an accident on the highway in my truck. But when I reflect on my life, it has been a good one. I've reached practically all my goals, am financially secure and do have a pretty decent life. That's pretty good considering I was on a slide into juvenile delinquicy and was probably voted in high school "The one who will probably never succeed." But life, and age, has a way of making you grow up and accept responsibility for your actions which is severly lacking today. (See, even my age is showing by that remark.)

    My only remaining goal is to live my last years in Japan. Why? I don't know and cannot explain it. I may be caucasion in looks, but I am Japanese inside. Maybe I was Japanese in a previous life. I don't know. But that is my desire. If I die here in the states, my wish is to be creamated and buried in my wife's family grave in Japan along with her father (my best friend) and her other family members.

    My only regret is that we didn't have any children to pass our life savings on to and to extend the familiy names. But that's what we decided on. To think about it, this will be the end of the line for both my wife's and my own family name. (My brother died last year of pancreatic cancer and he also didn't have any heirs and my wife is an only child.) In a way it's kind of sad, but maybe that's the way it's supposed to be. Life marches on regardless.
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    well we are alive that also implies that we have to die sometime

    and as far as i have figured out if the climate would be different / the atmosphere, humans and animals could be up to a thousand years old (if pressure and stuff were different)
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    *lights a cigar* I'm three seconds away from doing my Tony Montana impression if we have another question like this that makes isayhello cry over death. Death=Life, Life=Death, Life=Death=Order of the Universe. Deal with it.

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    I guess you're speaking about a fear of death shared by many people, not really the logic ("why") of death. Look at this way, it makes you treasure every living moment more. For me death seems small potatoes, next to pain and suffering people go through, or inflict upon each other (cruelty, injustice, violence/abuse of all kinds, war, "social darwinism", extended incurable illness, etc.) Dying in good health is hard, but that's the one i'm aiming for.

    Loved reading your list, pachipro! lots of goodies there, from the cushy exchange rate, to the 70s popstars (yes I love Julie! all the people you named are still working, except Momoe! Pink Ladies had one-off reunion probably.)

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    A passage that helps me...

    That night there was a violent storm, and I lay in my futon staring up at the ceiling and at the suddenly luminous screens that surrounded me. The scroll on the wall with its three curving ideograms looked jarring and white in the lightning, like a message flashed at sea: SHIN something KEI, it said. The first ideogram meant "new." The third meant "to rejoice." But the second was so expertly written that it was almost impossible to read. The lightning sizzled, and the scroll turned so white for a second that it appeared transparent. GAI, was it? "Shin Gai no Kei": The End of Life is a Joyful Beginning.

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    Funny that some of my favorite authors continued writing even after knowing they were doomed or dying. Alan Booth, Dennis Potter, and in many ways Dazai, who finally succeeded in killing himself after two previous attempts.

    Yikes! Sorry to be kinda gloomy! My take on death... I'm pissed I can't remember my previous lives, and excited about my future ones!!!

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    meh.. life, death.. in the end it's all pointless anyway.. so why worry about it? when it's over it's over. Until then, enjoy.

    It's too easy walking around creating your own little hells in the short time we have here.
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    You guys are way too pessimistic. Cheer up! You're not yet dead. It ain't over till it's over.

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    Every man dies, but not every man lives...

    For me there is no afterlife. There is no heaven or hell. We experience it in every single day of our lives, in every moment that passes us by. Such concepts were only made by machismos who wished to subdue and dominate over their constituents, but that's another story.

    Death is inevitable. Everything perishes, whether or not we accept it. The question is: what have you done while you were alive?

    My friends, life is not measured by the years one has. Nor is it measured by one's wealth and power. It is in our works and actions that give meaning to life. It doesn't matter if you lived up to 200 years, not even if you own the world. If you did nothing but procratinate and bum around, your life is worthless.

    Those who die young are often immortalized: Jesus Christ, Jose Rizal, Lord Byron Oda Nobunaga, JFK, James Dean, and so on. Yes they are honored, remembered, celebrated, even venerated.Why is this so? For they died at the peak of their lives. In which they'd always be remembered that way.

    So be thankful while you draw breath, do something worthwhile, change the world in whatever way you can. Enjoy.

    To live is to cherish.

    All we have to decide is what to do with the time given to us.
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    Sometimes Death Looks Good To You !

    Having been dealing with death in my job for the last 10 years, I find many old people look forward to it. As you deal with the many problems that old age can bring on and the quality of your life gets worse each day, death doesn't seem so bad. Most older people believe in some kind of life after death which helps accept death. If you live long enough, you may see your spouse, children, friends, relatives all die before you; the thought of joining them in the after-life seems nice. Funny how many old people feel the "younger generation" is destroying the world they know and love and they don't want to live to see things get worse. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of old people who fight death off and love every second of their life. I think sometimes as you get older and have led what you feel is a good life you feel your time on earth is nearing it's end and it's OK, nothing to fear at all.
    I sometimes wonder if all the young people who feel there is nothing after death will feel that way as they age and approach death. I like the idea of a "designer life" after death; in my spare time I fantasize what my DREAM
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    I keep reading this thread with nothing much to say. I love living, but when it is time to go, I am ready- no regrets, no appologies and lots of gratitude for everything. Entropy and thermodynamics- Things fall apart, from an organized to less organized state, and people die- it gives meaning to our living, and should make us a little more cautious and appreciative of what we have. Someone said it earlier: everyone dies, but not everyone lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycernius
    There's an old joke that goes:
    'Why do men die before their wifes?
    Because they want to'
    On a serious note. There has been research into stem cells that could extend the human lifespan to a thousand years. If so what would you do? Are humans capable of coping, mentally, with that type of age span? What would be the implications of population growth when you have an aging population that won't die? If humans didn't die would our intellect become stagnant because no new ideas are allowed to come through from a younger generation? Imagine what the world would be like if the people from the Dark ages to early middle ages where still alive today. Their world was one of superstition. Their age and experience would put them in positions of extreme power
    Right on, dude !

    Why on earth do you think some of us geezers are still hanging on in there!!!!

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    We die so that we don't have to live as old people who p1ss themselves at bus-stops...and smell of biscuits...and collect knitting needles...and go on about "In my day"...and drink Horlicks...and complain...and dribble...and talk jibba-jabba...and request knives anf forks in McDonalds...and get up at 5am for no apparent reason...and go to bed at 6pm, just so they can get up at 5am the next day...and still get their milk delivered...and listen to music played or composed by people that are dead...and only watch films made prior to 1986...and eat every meal with gravy...and wear sensible shoes...and own more than one cardigan...and collect their prescription every Thursday...


    I quite like old people really...but i'd rather die than live as a shadow of my former self.

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    Maybe a more interesting question would be...why do people live?

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