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  • No - it is against God's will

    6 9.84%
  • No - it is murder

    6 9.84%
  • No - it is against the unborn child's rights

    6 9.84%
  • Yes - but only if the mother's life is in danger

    10 16.39%
  • Yes- but only if the mother's physical or mental health is in danger

    9 14.75%
  • Yes - in cases of rape

    15 24.59%
  • Yes - if the mother is underage

    11 18.03%
  • Yes - as long as it's early

    20 32.79%
  • Yes - it's better than bringing an unwanted child into the world

    20 32.79%
  • Yes - it should be entirely the woman's choice

    25 40.98%
  • Yes - it's just another form of contraception

    3 4.92%
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    If a woman wants to practise an abortion it doesn't matter if it's legal or not. She'll do it anyways and in most cases without leaving proofs of it.

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    A woman needs to have freedom over her body. It's a natural right. Yes, abortion should be legal within reasonable parameters, but it must not be treated as a form of birth control.

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    Only in case of rape and in case the mother's life is in danger. But not a woman who wants to have fun and irresponibly gets pregnant. It's not a game.

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    Heavens, and here was me thinking that it would take two people to have fun and get irresponsibly pregnant.

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    Mother creates life, mother takes life, and it doesn't get more natural than that.

    If mother or parents chose to terminate combination of their genes, let's be it. Most likely showing that their DNA combination is a failure. Doesn't get more Darwinian, isn't it?

    But on other hand if we consider that parents DNA combination is a human being regardless of its state of development, shape, and life experience, then we have to admit that abortion is a murder of a human being.
    We need a definition of human being with emphasis on what age it receives human rights protection. Is it when parents genes combine, or at 3 months? Maybe at birth, or age 18?

    Hey, this is timeless issue that exists as long a as human kind. It can only be regulated by law, but the outcome will never be satisfactory, morally justified, philosophically put to rest, never.

    Yes, it's a murder, but mother should have legal rights to do that.

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    abortion is a crime. women who abort should be punished as homicides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cambria Red View Post
    A woman needs to have freedom over her body. It's a natural right. Yes, abortion should be legal within reasonable parameters, but it must not be treated as a form of birth control.
    I totally agree with you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cambria Red
    A woman needs to have freedom over her body.
    You can say so, if you talk about diets or plastic surgery. Children, even if they're unborn, are another human beings, not just "part of woman's body".
    Fetus isn't a parasite - it's a child, that's way I thnik that abortion is a murder. It can be legal only in one case - if woman's life is in danger.

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    If you are MALE "it is none of your business".

    If you are FEMALE it's your own choice" Yes or NO

    IF you are religious, and this is your POV, "butt out". Go to a Religious forum .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melusine View Post
    If you are MALE "it is none of your business"
    Wow, women in the US have evolved so far ahead of the rest of us that they can now fertilise themselves?

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    There is such a thing as "envitro fertilzation," and "artificial insemination" .

    sooooooooooooooooooo yes, a women can "fetilize themselves if a women (anywhere in the world where the technology is available) wants to by-pass the MALE we can.

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    Indeed, but thats immaterial to the debate. If anyone goes to all that trouble to get pregnant it is because they want a pregnancy and the resultant child. There wouldn't be an abortion, not unless there was serious medical complications anyway.

    As to your comment that it is not the business of the male, I disagree. The male is just as entitled to the right of free choice as is the female, to deny any male the same right as any female is discrimination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melusine View Post

    IF you are religious, and this is your POV, "butt out". Go to a Religious forum .

    Melusine
    Heh, if you're atheist - butt out. Go to an atheist forum.

    Yes, I'm religious. But, as I must worry you, my opinion about abortion doesn't come only from my religion. I just can't catch the difference between killing unborn children and killing baby who is born, but still dependent to parents' care. But nobody votes for women's right to kill born babies, do they? Child is always a child - and murder is always a murder.

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    The thread here is: Should abortions be legal?

    It has nothing to do with a man's rights, its about the legality of abortion. The only persons that would be punished if an abortion is done illegally (wherever in the world abortion is illegal) is the WOMEN, and the Dr. or person (whether they are male or female who performs the abortion.)

    This thread is now OFF TOPIC

    THIS is NOt a religious thread nor a religious forum

    Better yet, do start a new thread about religion according to Europe Forum rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melusine View Post
    The thread here is: Should abortions be legal?

    It has nothing to do with a man's rights, its about the legality of abortion. The only persons that would be punished if an abortion is done illegally (wherever in the world abortion is illegal) is the WOMEN, and the Dr. or person (whether they are male or female who performs the abortion.)

    This thread is now OFF TOPIC

    THIS is NOt a religious thread nor a religious forum

    Better yet, do start a new thread about religion according to Europe Forum rules.
    Well I'm glad you realise what the topic of the thread is at least. In simple English, as it takes two people to create a foetus, i.e a male and a female then both have an equal right to an opinion and a free choice (to vote) on whether an abortion of said foetus (created by both male and female remember) should be legal or illegal.

    I have at no stage mentioned religion, only the legalities which is in keeping with this topic.

    Sheesh, why so agressive?

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    when a s[perm and egg connect that is the begging of a human being if u stop it there it is murder. What about the baby also only about 1% of abortions are because of rape still dont kill a baby because a girl was rapped. A fetus is a human a fertlized egg is a human there is no excuse to abortion pleas give me some arguments. Abortion is murder i know people put abortion with extreme right winged people but if u think about it is wrong dont put other political viewes into the debate of abortion.

    fertlized egg is the begging of a human(even though it is a scientific fact). nearlly 100% of abortions the baby has arms and legs. There is no debate abortion is murder people are blinded and think it is about womans rights

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    ANNUAL ABORTION STATISTICS



    • In 2008, approximately 1.21 million abortions took place in the U.S., down from an estimated 1.29 million in 2002, 1.31 million in 2000 and 1.36 million in 1996. From 1973 through 2008, nearly 50 million legal abortions have occurred in the U.S. (AGI).
    • Based on available state-level data, an estimated 1.16 million abortions were performed in 2009, 1.13 million were performed in 2010, and 1.06 million in 2011.
    • In 2009, the highest number of reported abortions occurred in New York (119,996), Florida (81,918) and Texas (77,630); the fewest occurred in Wyoming (≤20), South Dakota (769) and North Dakota(1,290) (CDC).
    • The 2009 abortion ratios by state ranged from a low of 57 abortions per 1,000 live births inMississippi (Wyoming had too few abortions for reliable tabulation) to a high of 713 abortions per 1,000 live births in NYC (CDC).
    • The annual number of legal induced abortions in the United States doubled between 1973 and 1979, and peaked in 1990. There was a slow but steady decline through the 1990's. Overall, the number of annual abortions decreased by 6% between 2000 and 2009, with temporary spikes in 2002 and 2006 (CDC).
    • The US abortion rate is similar to those of Australia, New Zealand, and Sweden but higher than those of other Western European countries (NAF).
    • In 1998, the last year for which estimates were made, more than 23% of legal induced abortions were performed in California (CDC).
    • In 2005, the abortion rate in the United States was higher than recent rates reported for Canadaand Western European countries and lower than rates reported for China, Cuba, the majority of Eastern European countries, and certain Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union (CDC).
    • Nearly half of pregnancies among American women are unintended; about 4 in 10 of these are terminated by abortion. Twenty-two percent of all U.S. pregnancies end in abortion. (AGI).

    WHO HAS ABORTIONS?


    • In 2009, 85% of all abortions were performed on unmarried women (CDC).
    • Women living with a partner to whom they are not married account for 25% of abortions but only about 10% of women in the population (NAF).
    • In 2009, 55.3% of abortions were performed on women who had not aborted in the past; 36.6% were performed on women with one or two prior abortions, and 8.1% were performed on women with three or more prior abortions (CDC).
    • Among women who obtained abortions in 2009, 40.2% had no prior live births; 46.3% had one or two prior live births, and 13.6% had three or more prior live births (CDC).
    • Women between the ages of 20-24 obtained 33% of all abortions in 2009; women between 25-29 obtained 24% (CDC).
    • In 2009, women aged 20-29 years had the highest abortion rates (27.4 abortions per 1,000 women aged 20-24 years and 20.4 abortions per 1,000 women aged 25-29 years) (CDC).
    • 50% of U.S. women obtaining abortions are younger than 25; women aged 20-24 obtain 33% of all U.S. abortions and teenagers obtain 17% (AGI).
    • In 2009, adolescents under 15 years obtained .05% of all abortions, but had the highest abortion ratio, 785 abortions for every 1,000 live births (CDC).
    • Black women are more than 4.8 times more likely than non-Hispanic white women to have an abortion, and Hispanic women are 2.7 times as likely (AGI).
    • The abortion rate of non-metropolitan women is about half that of women who live in metropolitan counties (NAF).
    • The abortion rate of women with Medicaid coverage is three times as high as that of other women (NAF).
    • 37% of women obtaining abortions identify themselves as Protestant, and 28% identify themselves as Catholic (AGI).
    • At current rates, nearly one-third of American women will have an abortion (AGI).

    WHY ARE ABORTIONS PERFORMED?


    • On average, women give at least 3 reasons for choosing abortion: 3/4 say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or other responsibilities; about 3/4 say they cannot afford a child; and 1/2 say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner (AGI).
    • Only 12% of women included a physical problem with their health among reasons for having an abortion (NAF).
    • One per cent (of aborting women) reported that they were the survivors of rape (NAF).

    WHEN DO ABORTIONS OCCUR?


    • 88-92% of all abortions happen during the first trimester, prior to the 13th week of gestation (AGI/CDC).
    • In 2009, 7% of all abortions were performed at 14-20 weeks' gestation; 1.3% were performed at ≥21 weeks' gestation (CDC).
    • Percentage of 2009 Reported Abortions by Weeks of Gestation* (CDC):
      ≤6 wks 7 wks 8 wks 9 wks 10 wks 11 wks 12 wks 13 wks 14-15 wks 16-17 wks 18-20 wks ≥21 wks
      32.3% 17.8% 14.0% 9.3% 6.6% 5.1% 3.9% 2.8% 3.4% 1.9% 1.8% 1.3%
      *Gestational weeks are measured from the first day of the woman's last menstruation and not from the day of conception. Though it does not provide an accurate fetal age (which is roughly 2 weeks less than the gestational age), it is the simplest way for an OB/GYN to age a pregnancy since the day of conception is often not known. Hence, if an abortion occurs at 8 weeks gestation, it is actually aborting a 6 week embryo. The images on ourPrenatal Development and Abortion Pictures pages are more precisely captioned with fetal ages in accordance with standard teaching texts on prenatal development.

    HOW ARE ABORTIONS PERFORMED?



    WHO IS PERFORMING ABORTIONS?


    • The number of abortion providers declined by 11% between 1996 and 2000 (from 2,042 to 1,819). It declined another 2% between 2000 and 2005 (from 1,819 to 1,787) It has remained stable between 2005 and 2008 (1,787 to 1,793). (AGI).
    • Forty-two percent of providers offer very early abortions (during the first four weeks’ gestation) and 95% offer abortion at eight weeks. Sixty-four percent of providers offer at least some second-trimester abortion services (13 weeks or later), and 20% offer abortion after 20 weeks. Eleven percent of all abortion providers offer abortions past 24 weeks (AGI).
    • Most abortions in the USA are provided in freestanding clinics; in 2005, only 5% occurred in hospitals, down from 22% in 1980, and only 2% took place in physician's offices (NAF).

    ABORTION FATALITY


    • In 2008, 12 women died as a result of complications from known legal induced abortion (CDC).
    • The number of deaths attributable to legal induced abortion was highest before the 1980s (CDC).
    • In 1972 (the year before abortion was federally legalized), a total of 24 women died from causes known to be associated with legal abortions, and 39 died as a result of known illegal abortions(CDC).

    THE COST OF ABORTION



    MEDICAL ABORTION


    • In 2005, 57% of abortion providers, or 1,026 facilities, provided one or more types of medical abortions, a 70% increase from the first half of 2001. At least 10% of nonhospital abortion providers offer only medication abortion services (AGI).
    • In 2005, an estimated 161,100 early medication abortions were performed in nonhospital facilities (AGI).
    • Medication abortion accounted for 17% of all abortions in 2008 (AGI).

    ABORTION AND CONTRACEPTION


    • Induced abortions usually result from unintended pregnancies, which often occur despite the use ofcontraception (CDC).
    • 54% of women having abortions used a contraceptive method during the month they became pregnant. Among those women, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users reported using the methods inconsistently, while 13% of pill users and 14% of condom users reported correct use (AGI).
    • 8% of women having abortions have never used a method of birth control (AGI).
    • 9 in 10 women at risk of unintended pregnancy are using a contraceptive method (AGI).
    • Oral contraceptives, the most widely used reversible method of contraception, carry failure rates of 6 to 8% in actual practice (NAF).
    • Condom use confers protection against STIs, but it does not provide top-tier protection from pregnancy because of breakage, slippage, inconsistent use, and low continuation rates (NAF).

    ABORTION AND MINORS


    • 40% of minors having an abortion report that neither of their parents knew about the abortion (AGI).
    • 35 states currently enforce parental consent or notification laws for minors seeking an abortion: AL,AR, AZ, CO, DE, FL, GA, IA, ID, IN, KS, KY, LA, MA, MD, MI , MN, MO, MS, NC, ND, NE, OH, OK, PA, RI, SC,SD, TN, TX, UT, VA, WI, WV, and WY. The Supreme Court ruled that minors must have the alternative of seeking a court order authorizing the procedure (AGI).

    ABORTION AND PUBLIC FUNDS


    • The U.S. Congress has barred the use of federal Medicaid funds to pay for abortions, except when the woman's life would be endangered by a full-term pregnancy or in cases of rape or incest (AGI).
    • 17 states (AK, AZ, CA, CT, HI, IL, MA, MD, MN, MT, NJ, NM, NY, OR, VT, WA and WV) do use public funds to pay for abortions for some poor women. About 14% of all abortions in the United States are paid for with public funds (virtually all from the state) (AGI).

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    For rape victims, or when the mother can lose her life, yes it can be acceptable.

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    Yes, Women should decide for there body

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    I voted 'Yes- but only if the mother's physical or mental health is in danger'.

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    Those are tough choices; however, one choice should be added to the poll: if the baby has profound disabilities (e.g., missing most of his brain; an individual missing all his limbs, eyes, hearing apparati, etc.); in other words, when it seems living living life would be worse than death itself. I heard of one individual who was missing his face and much of his brain. They fed him with a dropper, through a hole that led straight to his esophagus. From what I heard, he died when he was around eighteen years of age. He appeared to be in an infantile state his whole life.

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    It’s necessary to the protection of foundational rights for women to allow abortion. It’s inhumane and torturous to force a person through something as financially, physically, and emotionally trying as an unwanted pregnancy

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