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    Nuri - you seem to have an unfairly negative view of activists. Agreed, there are some who go too far and give activists a bad name. But activism can be peaceful too. Here is a definition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activist. When I was a child, both my parents were activists in animal rights and trade unions. Their activism consisted of fund raising activities, writing letters to newspapers and MPs, taking part in peaceful protests and marches, sitting on committees, boycotts and trying to live their lives in accordance with their principles. Nowadays, my husband is a union activist, which consists in his being the elected rep for his department and representing his co-workers at meetings and hearings.

    Please don't condemn people who work hard because they feel strongly on an issue just because you think a few of them go too far!

    Edit: Just an addition - there is another form of peaceful activism, that I am taking part in today: industrial action.
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    My lovely wife taped the show "Extreme Home Makeover," (a show I seldom watch) while I was at work today. I enjoyed it after coming home.

    The Makeover Team went to Texas to build a new home for a family that was into animal rescue. They had over a hundred dogs, about 10 horses, pigs, and an assortment of other animals. The mother, father and children did all the caring for these animals while at the same time the parents had regular 8 hours jobs. The house was just falling apart because the family had no time to do regular up-keep because of all the time they had to spend taking care of the animals.

    Needless to say, a great new home was built for them with all the extra frills thrown in for the animals (e.g. kennels, stalls, special rooms, 10 yr supply of dog food, etc...).

    It warmed me that this show could go out of their way and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on this family for their efforts for helping abused and negelected animals and that many professional builders and carpenters saw it worth their time to aid this effort.

    Another reason I smiled at it is because I know from certain members who post here that they cannot see the value in spending hundreds of thousands of dollars in a way to help animals when they know that that money could be used to help many needy families. I am guessing their "value" of human life would cause them to grimace hard at this expenditure of funds. lol. After all, surely in the same community there must have been several needy families they could have helped for the same amount of money that was spent on 'mere' animals. Hah!

    Great to see the animals moved to the front of the line and that the producers of this show saw the need and "value" of it.


    *This doesn`t exactly match this thread which I created, but maybe it does in some way since in some way it is fighting cruelty. I just didn't think it right to make a whole new thread for this.


    "Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."
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    Oh, another zoo falls short and the animals are at risk:

    News excerpt:
    Tito's hungry elephants spared
    Tue Mar 28, 10:48 AM ET

    ZAGREB (AFP) - A pair of elephants that were once part of the private zoo of Yugoslav's former dictator Tito have been saved by a food donation from Croatia's top tennis player.

    "Ivan Ljubicic and his wife Aida have put a certain amount of money on the account of the national park to help us feed the elephants," Morena Milevoj, spokeswoman of the zoo on Brijuni island, told AFP.
    Ljubicic made his offer after press reports that the park's management warned it might not have the means to feed the voracious elephants to the end of the year. ...

    Full story HERE.


    The warm part about this is that two very kind hearted people stepped up and came forth to help with securing food for these creatures. I see great value in compassion in helping these elephants. The cynics amongst us believing people are more deserving than animals, failing to admit or recognize that all are important and have value, must be wondering how that thousands of dollars could be spent in providing meals or shelter for children or the poor. After all, why should elephants eat to live when people are starving or homeless?

    But then, too, if I ask them why they don`t sell their cars and buy compacts and then send the remaining margin to the poor, they become silent.

    I`m glad many do not succumb to that flimsy argument put forth by cynics that human life trumps all acts of kindness that may be directed at animals.

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    Continued from post #138 above:

    That PETA bear is still stalking Prince Charles at all his public events. This time it caught his eye all the way in India.

    Holding a sign reading, "Save my skin," the bear standing on the road was seen by Charles. Prince Charles, now used to the stalking bear waved and said, "Hello." The hunt for the royal family`s compassion for bears continues.

    It takes one whole bear to make one prissy little black hat for fashion. These hats will go the way of the Dodo bird and it will be the Peta campaign that causes it. Until then, blood junkies will keep causing bears to bear the pain of fashion.

    GO PETA BEAR!

    Full story HERE.

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    Why do I love the UK?

    The no#1 reason is that they are the hot bed of Animal Rights with regards to Direct Action in the world. SHAC (Stop Huntington Animal Cruelty) got its start in the UK targeting the animal testing lab Huntington Life Sciences. There, in the UK, SHAC has honed its tecniques of Direct Action and then exported it to the US and Canada, not to mention much of Europe.

    The #2 reason is because of Brook Johnston, Miss UK Universe -- just a beautiful lady inside and out. Her heartfelt care for animals has caused her to lend herself to promoting vegetarianism. Here she is with PETA`s "Turn Over a New Leaf" campaign all decked out in cabbage. Hmmm...looks yummy.


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    I prefered the "I'd rather show my buns than wear fur" campaign.
    Baka ningen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiku
    I prefered the "I'd rather show my buns than wear fur" campaign.
    And here is two time emmy award winning actress Charlott Ross of NYPD in the "I`d rather show my buns than wear fur" campaign -- doing it for the animals.


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    Yeah, that one was a much better campaign--too bad it didnt cach on with the general public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiku
    Yeah, that one was a much better campaign--too bad it didnt cach on with the general public.
    Things take time.

    Patience, patience, patience. When does the sword strike? The two stand motionless grasping their swords raised toward each other, peering into one anothers eyes -- they seem as if they are statues held in place by the other. Strength in their patience, but eventually one will strike...

    Peta will lunge, Peta will parry, Peta will slash -- and so will the opponents in the industry of animal exploitation.

    Things take time. Patience, little grasshopper. The smaller chooses the time when it wants to harry the larger with all its force.

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    *tailored that analogy specially for you Reiku, since I think I do recall your fondness for swords: "strike me down with your sword." Therefore, thought I would make it easy for you to understand the dance between two adversarries.

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    I can think of more appropriate ways to promote those causes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuyoiko
    I can think of more appropriate ways to promote those causes
    What exectly are you referring to? The thread is long.

    But, there are many ways to fight against animal cruelty and some may be more appropriate at different times in different places. However, I don`t see what you are referring to, or could be referring to in recent posts that should be put off the table for consideration and use.

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    Sorry - to clarify, I was referring to the posts immediately preceding mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuyoiko
    Sorry - to clarify, I was referring to the posts immediately preceding mine.
    You mean the use of models baring skin for advertisements to catch eyes?

    If so, and looking at your comment on that, then I would have to say, "well, gee, I guess there are always better ways to do something."

    But so what!? When there is a mix of approaches it adds to the dynamics of any campaign. Like I said, some things in some places at different times strikes cords and causes discourse more than other places at different times.

    You aren`t saying that ads like that shouldn`t be used, are you?

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    Taking a bite out of animal abusers, tax-paying citizens’ money is being used to protect and prosecute those who are cruel to animals by allowing the state of Maine in the the U.S. to include animals in protection orders of those issued by judges to those persons who are trying to leave spouses.

    Mounting evidence is showing that animal abuse often preceeds violent crime, and in the case of domestic abuse, it may even be alarmingly high.

    Abusive spouses often think that one of the best ways to intimidate and control their partner is to make threats on a cherished pet. Often these threats are made good on.

    Excerpt of article:
    Susan Walsh, whose dog and sheep were killed by her husband, said many victims stand to benefit from including pets in protection orders.

    "I've heard so many horror stories from other women that I knew I was not alone," she said.

    When the bill came up for consideration at a public hearing in January, Walsh recounted how she remained in an abusive marriage in part out of fear for what might happen to her pets and farm animals if she left.

    Walsh said her husband shot two of her sheep inside their Ellsworth barn. Another time, when she was visiting her parents in Pennsylvania, he deliberately ran his truck over her deaf and blind border collie in their driveway, she said.

    Walsh, who stayed in the marriage for more than 12 years before her divorce in 2001, said she would have left sooner had it not been for her responsibilities to the animals.


    The article goes on to explain that 71% of women in one shelter for abused women reported that they had a pet threatened or abused by their partners.

    The good thing about this news is that it reports on the link between cruelty to animals and violence to people. It also makes it quite clear that there is value in letting the legal system, paid for by tax money, work in a way that animals benefit from not being the target of inflicting pain. The more and more animals creep into the legal cases and decisions of judges and legislatures, the more and more they move to legal personhood.

    But, it is a slow process.

    Read full article here: New Maine Law Expands to Protect Pets

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    SVF...I'm just curious, do you own dogs, cats, birds, etc??? If so, how many do you have. Have you/do you volunteer time with shelters etc...? I apologize if you have mentioned this before, I skimmed this thread but didn't notice anything about it.
    (just so you know, I have a Golden Ret., a rescued Golden, and two rescued turtles RES's)
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    I had two hamsters, they died, a cat, she got old and didnt come home oneday, ive got a dog, the little bastard, but you cant help love his unique form of evil.

    I've also got a resident mouse, he has evaded every attempt to catch him so far but i respect him as a worthy foe, as such ive never resorted to lethal means of getting him.

    I think SVF once mentioned his list of pets, a reasonable number i think, though im not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CC1
    SVF...I'm just curious, do you own dogs, cats, birds, etc??? If so, how many do you have. Have you/do you volunteer time with shelters etc...? I apologize if you have mentioned this before, I skimmed this thread but didn't notice anything about it.
    (just so you know, I have a Golden Ret., a resued Golden, and two rescued turtles RES's)
    Hi CC1, I answered your questions at the end of this thread HERE.

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    Talking of staying on topic, SVF please try and remain within the thread, and not drawing the threads to another one you have made for other pupouses, if you dont want to awsner points and questions within the thread their asked, then ignore them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strongvoicesforward
    Hi CC1, I answered your questions at the end of this thread HERE.
    I actually felt that my question was on topic. Seeing as this thread deals with animal cruelty...I find it relevent wether or not you care for animals yourself! I would appreciate it if you would answer the question here rather than send me on a wild goose chase.
    Quote Originally Posted by strongvoicesforward
    Yes, I have 4 dogs. All rescued or pick ups.
    I am active in some aspects of Animal 'Liberation' -- of which I will not go into detail. When opportunities present themselves to make a difference, or when I can create an opportunity, I act on that.

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    Bearing all for bears -- Peta U.K. is keeping the pressure on Buckingham palace to have bear fur discontinued for ceremonial hats worn by the famous red suited guards.

    On Sunday, Peta members held a “die-in” at Parliement Square, spreading their naked bodies in a heap to bring more attention to the campaign to change to faux fur hats. The campaign is gaining momentum. As of now, 170 members of pariament have signed the petition directed to the Minister of Defense to make the switch. As the list of signatures grow, it will become more likely that the issue will eventually be debated within the House of Commons.

    In addition, the Peta Bear (as mentioned earlier in this thread) continues to stalk Prince Charles during his public functions and travels -- and the Prince knows it, having acknowledged the bear on several occasions.

    There is no question as to the future success of this campaign. It is not a question of “if” this indefensible policy of fashion cruelty is stopped by the Defense Ministry, but a question of “when” they will stop at the point of victory for the bears and Peta.

    It surely has more chance of success than the campaign that ended the stuffy old foggies who ran around the countryside having their dogs savage foxes to death by ripping them to pieces (riding so pompously high and self-rightiously proud in their red coats and high black boots). That in its past insipid form has been ended. Bear hats, too, will go the way of that tradition which died hard -- but will die, like sanctioned fox hunting by dogs did indeed die.

    Here is a picture of the nude protest (all genetalia and breasts are slighly covered by limbs and posters [to me it looks almost like avante gard art):



    Look here for full story: Nude PETA Members Tell the Naked Truth About Bearskins

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    Got To Love Those Brits!

    More and more the non-human animals are getting their foot into the door of "personhood." When the issues of cruelty are being debated within the halls where laws are made by a country`s top politicians, "rights" are not too far behind. Until they are realized though, "welfare" is tackeled.

    A new Animal Welfare Bill on the national level that could see owners are jailed and fined is going the rounds before Parliament. The interesting and unique thing about this Bill is that it states "Freedoms," a word often associated with altruistic ideas. Here are the 5 freedoms to be guaranteed to pets:

    Freedom from thirst, hunger, and malnutrition
    Freedom from discomfort
    Freedom from pain, injury, and disease
    Freedom to express normal behaviour
    Freedom from fear and stress

    Possible fine if owners ignore the above: 5,000 pounds or prison sentence.

    After this bill becomes law, a secondary bill is in the makings to introduce a code of conduct for different types of animals.

    The only thing that disappoints me is that all animals are not included. That leaves many battery hens, laboratory animals, etc... to languish in their horrendous conditions. But, things come slowly in steps at a time.

    What was it that Willam Wallace said in Braveheart at the end? Oh, yeah. I remember now.

    "FREEDOM!"

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    Oha Everybody!

    What a glorious day it is today. I woke up to a morning of rain rain rain and for a minute I was thinking -- another day of rain -- just another day of rain.

    But, NO! It is not just another day of rain and gloomy skies. This is the day The Polo Ralph Loren Corporation, one of the largest fashion company in the industry, publicly announced they would no longer use fur in any of its clothing fashion or home apparel collections!

    They had been thinking about discontinuing these products for the last few months after meetings with PETA in February and March, but it wasn`t until recently after viewing undercover footage of fur farms(provided by PETA) in China that they made the resolute decision to put compassion above fashion.

    After the meetings, the Polo Ralph Lauren Corporation sent PETA a signed statement of assurance acknowledging its intent to pull all advertising for fur, cancel all pending orders for fur products, and, beginning with its holiday 2006 collections, no longer sell any fur products. Twelve hundred of its brand-new fall 2006 fur-trimmed coats will be donated to charities in developing nations.

    Full press release here: Ralph Lauren Drops Fur After Watching Chinese Fur-Farm Expose´

    Good on Ralph Lauren. Another victory for the animals, and PETA once again shows its effectiveness in dogged determination at getting results.

    But the battle is not over, and many more languish in deplorable conditons on wire mesh encrusted feces exposed to the elements without bedding or proper nutrition.




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    T'is sad to see so many animals suffer because people like to wear 100 000$ fur coats I'd like to see them being stripped of their skin and see if they like it !
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    Oh! So funny!!!

    R&B hip hop singer Beyonce allowed herself to be auctioned away for a dinner with fans. However, she didn`t know that Peta members put in the winning bid.

    When they arrive at the restaurant they sit down and then the Peta members confront her about her wearing fur, explaining to her the cruelty that foxes are anally electrocuted for her fashion wear, which is designed by her mother. They tell her how beautiful she is and talented, and that her fans love her for that and not her death 'glamour' draping her body. They ask her if she would consider not wearing fur. They also put a portable video player on the table showing her a video narrated by Pamela Anderson depicting all the gruesomeness of the fur trade.

    Basically, she just sits there mouth gaping, not believing she has been had, because for months now, Peta had been trying to contact her about her cruelty.

    BUT, here is the great thing -- it was all caught on hidden video inside a bag placed on the table and YOU, TOO, CAN WATCH IT! It is about 1 to 2 minutes of Beyonce just being schooled on cruelty. Finally, her mother gets real upset and blows up and has the Peta members escorted out. Oh, so funny seeing the diva ambushed.

    Oh, those waskily Peta members!

    Go to tmz.com to see it. Perhaps you don`t have to go there. Perhaps you can go directly to the video link Peta Gets to Diva Singer Beyonce
    (you have to choose broadband or narrow band on the buttons and then wait about a min for the Quicktime to start).

    If you haven`t seen Peta activists in action before, take a look.

    Persistant Audacity defined.

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