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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lyonnist View Post
    To believe in a better life is a strength. It is indisputable!
    Especially when your life sucks a lot like it used to be till modern times.
    http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads...-our-ancestors
    Be wary of people who tend to glorify the past, underestimate the present, and demonize the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    What do you mean by weak exactly ? If you mean unable to have principles or strict beliefs, or lacking self-control, then no. But if you mean lacking lacking independence of mind, being more influenceable or weaker at reasoning, then I would tend to agree on a general basis.
    Maybe the first wave of atheism (centuries ago) had independence of mind and was less influenceable and stronger in reasoning, but modern atheism in observation is just as lacking in independence of mind, more influenceable or weaker at reasoning. Modern atheism is inherited just like religion, either through family or society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hgfds View Post
    Maybe the first wave of atheism (centuries ago) had independence of mind and was less influenceable and stronger in reasoning, but modern atheism in observation is just as lacking in independence of mind, more influenceable or weaker at reasoning. Modern atheism is inherited just like religion, either through family or society.
    In some extent yes, but atheism more than any religion is chosen by people. The best example are scientists, who as a group are about 50% atheists, more than any other occupational or social group.

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    I think we're in the age when science and religion meets.
    Religion used the personal experiences of certain people to build up an own belief system
    We supposed to have "Spiritual masters" who brought knowledge from unclear sources or dimensions, as most of us have no special powers just 5 senses to measure the universe

    For example Someone with schizophrenic disorder experience a different reality and for a person like that a table which is non existent in our experience can be
    measurable, as himself living in a different reality can experience it and consider it as part of the reality even it's just subjective
    experience, but our consciousness is subjective itself, we can't know if others experience the same things we do, only that they're
    supposed to, we might live a dream and we create every person into this experience so we experience a sort of Matrix reality.

    We consider our lives as reality, because others experience the same. We judge our acts and lives by others standards and opinions.
    If we dream and during a lucid dreaming period we become part of a different reality where 11 billion people lives
    and they tell us that their existence is the ultimate reality then we easily turn confused and reject our past belief.

    We don't know how could would perceive reality as a 4 dimensional being
    we only experience the 3 dimensional life as humans, but if we're more than just physical body then this
    life is just a possibility of the many alternative realities.

    ...
    back to the original question i don't think there's a difference between an Atheist and a Religious person as both have an own belief.
    Someone who consider himself Atheist may refuse the Christian version of God but believe in a system which is built on some form of mathematical intelligence.
    There's a difference between believing something and experience. Religion was considered exoteric because it doesn't allow the
    practitioner to experience the reality written in the Bible for example.
    Esoteric knowledge is if someone is able to experience a so called knowledge by his more dimensional self.

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    I've never read anything that would lead me to the same conclusions.

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    Weak people are just weak. Theres atheists who have converted to religion or reverted to religion, later on they develop into Religious political correctness police that can't tolerate any kind of criticism or debate around religion.

    I can tell you how.
    They cry like babies when you tell a former atheists who converted to religion because of feelings after only reading a book ( because no evidence was demonstrated to them, only inspirations of a story). And than tell them you were dissappointed in them.
    Then the owner bans you because his feelings were hurt.
    Political correctness in effect. I didnt even use foul language or any slurrs on him.
    Message before he banned me. He basically became an sjw when it comes to christianity. Can't handle criticism or dialogue. Just threats and ban hammers

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    I think any generalized and vague labeling of individuals based on just one superficial feature (e.g. a belief) will probably say more about the person who believes in that rationale than about the object of that analysis. What's "weak"? It's too generic, too vague. Also, there is no such implied psychological and ideological homogeneity among the people who are religious (and there are many ways to be religious, some of them almost as different and even hostile between themselves as they're as opposed to atheism), or those who are atheistic for that matter. I'm always wary of excessively simple explanations for complex phenomena (like an individual being "weaker" or "stronger") and correlations between unlikely things (e.g. being atheistic leads one to be stronger, or being stronger leads one to be atheistic, as if these things existed totally in isolation from social, cultural and familial conditions influencing the individual's mindset)... and I virtually never regret being so.

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    It’s not Religion or Atheism that makes you weaker or stronger.

    It’s all about perceptions.

    Those who have a plan and hope win!

    Hope without a plan is a disaster!

    Planning and hope give you a sense of self-esteem, confidence, and optimism.

    Planning without hope makes you more prone to cynicism, anxiety, and pessimism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    Weak people are just weak. Theres atheists who have converted to religion or reverted to religion, later on they develop into Religious political correctness police that can't tolerate any kind of criticism or debate around religion.

    I can tell you how.
    They cry like babies when you tell a former atheists who converted to religion because of feelings after only reading a book ( because no evidence was demonstrated to them, only inspirations of a story). And than tell them you were dissappointed in them.
    Then the owner bans you because his feelings were hurt.
    Political correctness in effect. I didnt even use foul language or any slurrs on him.
    Message before he banned me. He basically became an sjw when it comes to christianity. Can't handle criticism or dialogue. Just threats and ban hammers
    Nothing to do with religion but eeeeeww, that fat ugly hippo is Loki?
    mmmmmmmmm dooouuughhhnuuuutz

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    Quote Originally Posted by davef View Post
    Nothing to do with religion but eeeeeww, that fat ugly hippo is Loki?
    This is Taweret, she’s half Hippo, Egyptian Goddess of childbirth and fertility.

    She’s got to be related to Anubis the jacka..ss LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    It’s not Religion or Atheism that makes you weaker or stronger.

    It’s all about perceptions.

    Those who have a plan and hope win!

    Hope without a plan is a disaster!

    Planning and hope give you a sense of self-esteem, confidence, and optimism.

    Planning without hope makes you more prone to cynicism, anxiety, and pessimism.

    imo
    That makes perfect sense, indeed.

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    Here it would be more correct to mention how many sane people there are both in religion and those who are atheists! And the question is not so much who is weaker or smarter, but to understand that in any case you need to respect each other! Even if the husband believes, and the wife is an atheist, and do not try to blame each other for it!

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    Yes, you're right that religion helps people overcome difficulties. Not even religion itself, but faith.
    I am an atheist. I don't think religious people are weak or atheists are arrogant. It really depends on the individual.

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    Deistic people might be often braver and more determined when
    they face a difficult,dangerous or awkward situation because faith cannot directly change
    external events or conditions it can however affect or change your internal condition which in turn
    is decisive on what you can do or cannot do in a situation, in particular when it involves high risk or uncertainty
    of a positive outcome, and may awaken hidden forces
    or potentials in a person he wouldn´t expect.

    Of course there is also the downhill side it may make you more dogmatic,fanatic and
    cause irritability,insecurities where there would be no reason for an atheist to have such.
    Plus the tendency to superstious thinking like when something goes wrong instead of searching
    for the closest rational cause (like ones own ignorance of an important detail) but attributing it
    to the ill will of some malevolent metaphysical force or entity.

    So it might realy depend,

    Atheists: Better,more realistic and efficient in everyday type tasks and problems.
    More realistic straight to the point and critical thinking in everyday life.

    Religious people:Better or more confident in strange,awkward,ambigious or extreme situations where there is no certain outcome and routine or standard way to handle it.
    Last edited by cybernautic; 16-10-22 at 01:54.

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    I voted No
    I don't believe in organized religion.
    My main spiritual,religious beliefs are Pantheism, Reincarnation, and The Golden Rule.

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