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    Quote Originally Posted by 1337 View Post
    Really ? I am impatient but I don't consider myself a high IQ genius. I think there are other or more important traits besides IQ.

    What do you think about genes for creativity and other things like motor skills, memory ?
    That is entering the roam of intuition:
    The Role of Intuition in the Generation and Evaluation Stages of Creativity

    Our review showed that intuition is associated with both the idea generation and the idea evaluation phases of the creative problem-solving process. Data was pooled together to obtain a more fine-grained picture about where and how intuitive processes are linked with specific stages of creative problem solving. It was found that previous studies connected intuition chiefly to the idea generation phase. Two possible pathways were sketched out explaining the use of intuition in response to ill-defined problems. Finally, intuition, despite being increasingly investigated in psychological research, is still interpreted in a broad, vague manner, and we suggest future empirical research should be directed to test specific hypotheses such as those offered here or by Sadler-Smith (2015) in order to reveal its underlying working mechanisms in creative problem solving.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 1337 View Post
    Really ? I am impatient but I don't consider myself a high IQ genius. I think there are other or more important traits besides IQ.

    What do you think about genes for creativity and other things like motor skills, memory ?
    A test for memory is part of any well administered and recognized IQ test.

    If by creativity you mean painting, writing etc., you need a certain I.Q., but certainly nothing above 125 or so.

    Motor skills have nothing to do with IQ. You can lose most of them, as with Harding, and your IQ is still intact.

    Maybe I'd add a certain arrogance to lack of patience. I'm not saying all high IQ people have those traits, nor that people with average IQs might not have them, I'm just saying that having to explain over and over again what is so simple to oneself to people who just don't get and never will it can make one very impatient.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela View Post
    A test for memory is part of any well administered and recognized IQ test.

    If by creativity you mean painting, writing etc., you need a certain I.Q., but certainly nothing above 125 or so.

    Motor skills have nothing to do with IQ. You can lose most of them, as with Harding, and your IQ is still intact.

    Maybe I'd add a certain arrogance to lack of patience. I'm not saying all high IQ people have those traits, nor that people with average IQs might not have them, I'm just saying that having to explain over and over again what is so simple to oneself to people who just don't get and never will it can make one very impatient.
    Wouldn't someone of high intelligence be able to recognize their own emotional patterns, what provokes them and control their own emotions and try to look at things on the brighter side though ? Some people I know who were school smart got scammed online and I knew it was a scam. I even told him it is a scam but he didn't listen.

    Didn't neccessarily say those traits I mentioned have anything to do with IQ, but I don't see how that MENSA test tests for all these abilities. It is mainly about figuring out patterns. Therefor as you said: maybe online tests are useless.

    Some people are also naturally gifted people, such as in sports for example, or some sort of skill where it also requires to be creative. Some people are gifted at maths or some sort of engineering. One should surround themselves with people one can learn from. It's also about hard work, having patience and not giving up, i.e being resilient. Even if you are not a super gifted person. One should also surround themselves with positive people and uplift others. This is where I have made mistakes obviously, because I seek negativity and drama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1337 View Post
    Wouldn't someone of high intelligence be able to recognize their own emotional patterns, what provokes them and control their own emotions and try to look at things on the brighter side though ? Some people I know who were school smart got scammed online and I knew it was a scam. I even told him it is a scam but he didn't listen.

    Didn't neccessarily say those traits I mentioned have anything to do with IQ, but I don't see how that MENSA test tests for all these abilities. It is mainly about figuring out patterns. Therefor as you said: maybe online tests are useless.

    Some people are also naturally gifted people, such as in sports for example, or some sort of skill where it also requires to be creative. Some people are gifted at maths or some sort of engineering. One should surround themselves with people one can learn from. It's also about hard work, having patience and not giving up, i.e being resilient. Even if you are not a super gifted person. One should also surround themselves with positive people and uplift others. This is where I have made mistakes obviously, because I seek negativity and drama.
    There is no proven association between wisdom and intelligence.
    Maybe someone should create a WQ?
    I have been hearing about how inaccurate IQ tests supposedly are for the past 40 years, but I have yet to see someone propose something better...

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    Quote Originally Posted by firetown View Post
    There is no proven association between wisdom and intelligence.
    Maybe someone should create a WQ?
    I have been hearing about how inaccurate IQ tests supposedly are for the past 40 years, but I have yet to see someone propose something better...


    Curious though, what do you define as intelligence ? (I am not arguing against you or anything)

    the ability to understand and learn well, and to form judgments and opinions based on reason
    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...h/intelligence

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence

    Intelligence has been defined in many ways: the capacity for abstraction, logic, understanding, self-awareness, learning, emotional knowledge, reasoning, planning, creativity, critical thinking, and problem-solving. More generally, it can be described as the ability to perceive or infer information, and to retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment or context.

    What do you think about emotional intelligence ?

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    Emotional intelligence (EI) is most often defined as the ability to perceive, use, understand, manage, and handle emotions. People with high emotional intelligence can recognize their own emotions and those of others, use emotional information to guide thinking and behavior, discern between different feelings and label them appropriately, and adjust emotions to adapt to environments.[1] Although the term first appeared in 1964,[2] it gained popularity in the 1995 best-selling book Emotional Intelligence, written by science journalist Daniel Goleman. Goleman defined EI as the array of skills and characteristics that drive leadership performance.[3]
    Emotional intelligence refers to the ability to perceive, control, and evaluate emotions. Some researchers suggest that emotional intelligence can be learned and strengthened, while others claim it is an inborn characteristic
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_intelligence

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1337 View Post
    Curious though, what do you define as intelligence ? (I am not arguing against you or anything)



    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...h/intelligence

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence




    What do you think about emotional intelligence ?
    I am not sure how to even define it, but I know there are people who are highly intuitive who make good decisions based on that intuition without knowing exact details of what they decide on.

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