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    GDP per capita (by country):

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...order/2004rank.

    Wow check out this: Qatar on the top of the list, Kuwait over the United States... and Equatorial Guinea over Denmark and Germany to name a few!!!!

    Looks like the planet is really fuc**d up. We are all in the third-world... according with this ignorant's logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ^ lynx ^ View Post
    None of those countries were above Spain in Humand Development.
    Just see the charts as from 1960.


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    Again, there are frenchs migrating to the USA now... so by your logic your country is also in the third-world.
    I have already said that a professionnal experience in US for some upper-classes young peoples is not an economical immigration. Nothing to do with the millions of Italians, Portuguese or Spanish immigration waves.

    Quote Originally Posted by ^ lynx ^ View Post
    The first wave yes... but not the lastest.
    The first were economical (poverty), since the 60's. The 500 000 that you have talked about are probably the same and their sons and great-sons.

    http://www.migrationinformation.org/...lay.cfm?id=235

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    And those young frenchs? No, they aren't going back to France. Read the article again.
    They are minority and don't represent the French youngness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm View Post
    There are far more Brits and Germans in Spain than the other way around, so what ? This is not a criteria for being a third-world country.
    They search sun, not money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlitos View Post
    Since 1814, with the departure of the French style, started the phenomenon of exile or emigration policy due to political repression or broader groups of Spanish. The following were liberal groups, whose fate also was France or England...
    You are talking about a political emigration, not economical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ^ lynx ^ View Post
    404 Not found. You find a source, and you want me to demonstrate its consistency ?

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    Spain has : 400.000 British and 200.000 germans while,
    Germany or UK have so many little spaniards that they are not even counted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly View Post
    Just see the charts as from 1960.
    Just see the same charts as from today: Qatar, Kuwait and United Arab Emirates are above France, thus (according to your logic) you are a 3rd world country.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...PP)_per_capita

    I have already said that a professionnal experience in US for some upper-classes young peoples is not an economical immigration.
    That's not what the article says.

    The first were economical (poverty), since the 60's. The 500 000 that you have talked about are probably the same and their sons and great-sons.

    http://www.migrationinformation.org/...lay.cfm?id=235
    False. The italian migration to Germany is still very recent... in fact, there's even an important community of italians workers in Spain.

    They are minority and don't represent the French youngness.
    That's your personal not opinion not a fact. As usual...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm View Post
    Spain has : 400.000 British and 200.000 germans while,
    Germany or UK have so many little spaniards that they are not even counted.
    Already answered :there are several kinds of immigrations. Economical, political, retirement and comfort...The subject was about the first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ^ lynx ^ View Post
    Just see the same charts as from today: Qatar, Kuwait and United Arab Emirates are above France, thus (according to your logic) you are a 3rd world country.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
    Quatar or Kuweit are not 3rd world countries, not even in the 60's, in the contrary of Trinidad and Tobago, Jamaica or Lybia...


    Quote Originally Posted by ^ lynx ^ View Post
    That's not what the article says.
    CNN is not an academic source.



    Quote Originally Posted by ^ lynx ^ View Post
    The italian migration to Germany is still very recent... in fact, there's even an important community of italians workers in Spain.
    I don't deny it, but my point was the Italian immigration of the 60's was an economical one.



    Quote Originally Posted by ^ lynx ^ View Post
    That's your personal not opinion not a fact. As usual...
    If you have an academic source (and not US tabloids) showing that millions of young French flee in US to find work and to start definitively a new life, you can post it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly View Post
    Already answered :there are several kinds of immigrations. Economical, political, retirement and comfort...The subject was about the first.
    Sure. You have still to explain to us what is your criteria of third-world country for Spain before the 70's ?? Before you post stupid comments better think before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm View Post
    Sure. You have still to explain to us what is your criteria of third-world country for Spain before the 70's ?? Before you post stupid comments better think before.
    Just read before. And you have probably won the award of the most stupid comment of the thread by including Iceland in European Union...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly View Post
    Quatar or Kuweit are not 3rd world countries, not even in the 60's, in the contrary of Trinidad and Tobago, Jamaica or Lybia...
    Guinea Equatorial is a third-world counry and it's GDP per capita is higher than France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly View Post
    Quatar or Kuweit are not 3rd world countries, not even in the 60's, in the contrary of Trinidad and Tobago, Jamaica or Lybia...
    Yes, they are. Qatar, Kuwait and United Arab Emirates are full of people living in misery.. they just have natural resources that make a FEW very rich.



    CNN is not an academic source.
    CNN has more credit than your incoherent logic.

    If you have an academic source (and not US tabloids) showing that millions of young French flee in US to find work and to start definitively a new life, you can post it.
    CNN is not a tabloid, is a reliable source.

    I don't deny it, but my point was the Italian immigration of the 60's was an economical one.
    Italians kept migrating for jobs after that decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly View Post
    Just read before. And you have probably won the award of the most stupid comment of the thread by including Iceland in European Union...
    Quote me when I said Iceland is part of the EU ? It's part of Europe and the CEE not the EU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm View Post
    Guinea Equatorial is a third-world counry and it's GDP per capita is higher than France.
    Modern feature, due to fiscal evasion for the immatriculation of the boats, and oil. In 1965, this country was ranked 68...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ^ lynx ^ View Post
    CNN is not a tabloid, is a reliable source.
    I wait for a source showing Millions of French (or hundreds of thousands) fleeing in US to find work and money and to definitively start a life in this country.



    Quote Originally Posted by ^ lynx ^ View Post
    Italians kept migrating for jobs after that decade.
    I did not check up, but if it is right, it reinforces my point : an economical immigration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm View Post
    Quote me when I said Iceland is part of the EU ? It's part of Europe and the CEE not the EU
    He seems to have a worrying tendency to misunderstanding... he's certainly not very intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly View Post
    I wait for a source showing Millions of French (or hundreds of thousands) fleeing in US to find work and money and to definitively start a life in this country.
    I already posted it in the previous page. They are flying to California. You're in denial like a 4 years old kid.

    I did not check up, but if it is right, it reinforces my point : an economical immigration.
    Yes, a recent economical immigration. Thus, in your own retarded logic, Italy should be considered a 3rd world country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm View Post
    Quote me when I said Iceland is part of the EU ? It's part of Europe and the CEE not the EU
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    Same with Ireland or Iceland.
    BTW, Iceland is not part of CEE either.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europea...munity#Members

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    Quote Originally Posted by ^ lynx ^ View Post
    He seems to have a worrying tendency to misunderstanding... he's certainly not very intelligent.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greatest_common_divisor

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    Quote Originally Posted by ^ lynx ^ View Post
    I already posted it in the previous page. They are flying to California. You're in denial like a 4 years old kid.
    No, this "source" does not talk about millions of French. It just put in relief some upper-classes who start business. I still wait for your academic source...

    Quote Originally Posted by ^ lynx ^ View Post
    Yes, a recent economical immigration. Thus, in your own retarded logic, Italy should be considered a 3rd world country.
    If they migrate for jobs (even I dubt that after the 60's, they were so numerous), it's an economical migration. But I wait for your source too. You like to put assertions with very few sources (oh, yes, CNN and Foxnews...).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly View Post
    BTW, Iceland is not part of CEE either.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europea...munity#Members
    Lol you are certainly not very intelligent. We where talking about how Spain supposedly was a third-world country before the 70's (which was not part of the EU than), that's when I mentioned that Irelaand or Iceland, which are european counries, were also very poor before the 70's. I never said that Iceland was part of the EU, that is your own interpretation, don't put words in my mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm View Post
    you are certainly not very intelligent.
    Quote Originally Posted by ^ lynx ^ View Post
    he's certainly not very intelligent.
    Hum...


    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelm View Post
    We where talking about how Spain supposedly was a third-world country before the 70's (which was not part of the EU than), that's when I mentioned that Irelaand or Iceland, which are european counries, were also very poor before the 70's. I never said that Iceland was part of the EU, that is your own interpretation, don't put words in my mouth.
    I was saying that before integration of Spain in Europe (in the 80's), its living standards could be considered almost as third-world ones. So, if your answer is "same thing for Ireland and Iceland", it means that you put them in the whole of my assertion.

    BTW, your last one is wrong again : Iceland was ranked 6 in 1965...

    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ec...pita&date=1965

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly View Post
    Hum...
    I was saying that before integration of Spain in Europe (in the 80's), its living standards could be considered almost as third-world ones. So, if your answer is "same thing for Ireland and Iceland", it means that you put them in the whole of my assertion.

    BTW, your last one is again wrong : Iceland was ranked 6 in 1965...
    The standard of living of Spain in the 60's/70's/80's was far from being third-world. It was first-world actually. We are still waiting for your evidence.

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    The Spanish emigration to France in any case have been massive, is a weak argument to try to prove that Spain was a third world country, very controversial term especially if it relates only to the degree of industrialization of a country perhaps Spain was less industrialized than neighboring countries, but in any case, Spain has been a third world country.

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