Haplogroups of European kings and queens

[Tomenable]

There are plans to test more members of the dynasty so hopefully we will learn if there was a non-paternity event in the lineage leading to Janusz III of Mazovia, and hopefully they will determine the exact subclade of R1b.

This has not been possible so far:

Kozłowski's claim that his team could not discern any subhaplogroup more specific than R1b is disturbing. He blames the condition of the remains, but one must wonder whether a team with better equipment and methods could have gotten more complete results.

[Tomenable]

In any case I hope that they were L617 or at least some other DF27. :)

[Tomenable]

They will extract DNA from bones of Piast kings Ladislaus I and Casimir III:

http://naukawpolsce.pap.pl/aktualnos...ow-polski.html

"Everything indicates, that these are the best preserved graves of the Piast dynasty".

Spore nadzieje naukowcy pokładają w badaniach grobów Władysława Łokietka i Kazimierza Wielkiego na Wawelu. "Wszystko wskazuje na to, że są to najlepiej zachowane groby członków dynastii Piastów. To ważne, by z takich właśnie grobów pobrać DNA, który po zbadaniu może posłużyć jako wzorzec do identyfikacji innych członków rodu" - opowiada naukowiec.

They are both buried in St. Leonard's Crypt beneath the Wawel Cathedral:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wawel_..._the_Cathedral

As for Y-DNA of Janusz III of the Mazovian branch of Piasts, Davidski wrote:

This result might well be correct, but my point was that it was done with PCR on a very degraded sample, and another test is being done now using SNP capture and enrichment to double check the result, and I guess to try and work out the subclade.

Anyway, expect a lot of confusing results and surprises from Bronze Age, Iron Age and Medieval Poland when the relevant papers finally come out. I've seen a few of them, and it's hard to work out what was going on there.

[Sennevini]

I was looking at some maternal lines of European royals. Now I think the following is an interesting line:

Friedrich Wilhelm III of Prussia, Willem II of the Netherlands, Alexander III of Russia, Frederik IX of Denmark, Franz Joseph I of Austria-Hungaria, Christian IX of Denmark, Constantine I of Greece, Alfonso XIII of Spain, George IV of the United Kingdom and William IV of the United Kingdom all descend in female line from three daughters of Marie von Barby-Mühlingen and George III von Erbach. She descends in female line from Maria Laskarina, the Byzantine wife of Béla IV of Hungary. Her mother was Anna Komnene Angelina, daughter of Byzantine Emperor Alexios III. Her maternal grandmother was a women of the Kantakouzenos family.

I wonder what haplogroup they could be.

[Maciamo]

According to the Y-DNA testing of two illegitimate descendants of Prince Albert of Prussia (1809–1872), Geoffrey Rockel and Franz Rockel, the House of Hohenzollern would belong to haplogroup I2-Y7219 (downstream of L701 and P78).

[Rethel]

According to the Y-DNA testing of two illegitimate descendants

It feels like humbug.
I did not find any trace of such offspring in any official biogram of his.
And btw, it is too risky to count them as such, if they were not aknowledge by him.
And even if, there is no guarantee, that he was not decieved.

[Highlander]

According to the Y-DNA testing of two illegitimate descendants of Prince Albert of Prussia (1809–1872), Geoffrey Rockel and Franz Rockel, the House of Hohenzollern would belong to haplogroup I2-Y7219 (downstream of L701 and P78).

There's someone on another forum saying that their ancestor is the illegitimate child of some nobility. Their claim to fame is the fact said nobility was a bit odd & supposedly had numerous out-of-marriage children. Can they verify their claims, like how one can grab an eel in oily water.

My point, you can claim anything on the internet. I would put far more faith into one of his legitimate children. Cause who is to verify they are actually his children unless other members of the family DNA test and they are, given the recent years, relatively closely related and not 10th cousins twice removed.

[MarkoZ]

There's someone on another forum saying that their ancestor is the illegitimate child of some nobility. Their claim to fame is the fact said nobility was a bit odd & supposedly had numerous out-of-marriage children. Can they verify their claims, like how one can grab an eel in oily water.

My point, you can claim anything on the internet. I would put far more faith into one of his legitimate children. Cause who is to verify they are actually his children unless other members of the family DNA test and they are, given the recent years, relatively closely related and not 10th cousins twice removed.

If google is to be believed there have been several hyphenated Hohenzollern-Rockels living in Germany until recently.

[Fatherland]

Basarab Romania


http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...l.pone.0041803

[Messier 67]

Any study on the Habsburg Y-DNA? The Austrians or the Spanish could do the study.

[Diomedes]

There are no modern kings for Greece. The last king was Perseus the Macedonian.

[Elowen]

My mtdna was u5, how come so many west Europeans - like Germans and Austrians have it? I'd read that u5 was most common amongst the Sami people of Finland.

[Elowen]

My mtdna was u5, how come so many west Europeans - like Germans and Austrians have it? I'd read that u5 was most common amongst the Sami people of Finland.

Ok looking further I realized I am U5a1 which is different, Sorry I didn't see an edit button.

[Fire Haired14]

My mtdna was u5, how come so many west Europeans - like Germans and Austrians have it? I'd read that u5 was most common amongst the Sami people of Finland.

Highest U5%
Bashkir: 15%
Udmurt: 14%.
Mari: 13%
Norway: 13%
Sweden: 13%
Tatar: 12%
Estonia: 12%.
Belarus: 12%
Bosnia: 12%
Latvia: 11%
Lithuania: 11%

Lowest U5 %
Italy: 4-6%
Greece: 3%
Romania, Bulgaria: 4%.

The rest of Europe has 8-10%.

[Fire Haired14]

My mtdna was u5, how come so many west Europeans - like Germans and Austrians have it? I'd read that u5 was most common amongst the Sami people of Finland.

I've got about 200 samples from Germany and Austria, each gets 10% U5. U5 is so frequent in Saami because of a founder effect. Almost all of their U5 is U5b1b1a.

U5 has no special connection to a particular ethnic or regional group like for example Saami. U5 can only be given the label of a "WHG" or Paleolithic European lineage. DNA from old bones shows it was in Europe 30ky. It's modern subclades for the most part began to spread across the continent 10ky-20ky. A large majority of mtDNA samples from Mesolithic human remains in Europe belong to U5.

But, U5 also took part in expansions long after the Mesolithic. For example; U5a1a1, U5a1b1, U5b2a2, U5b2a1a1, U5b2b1a, U5b1b1a, and more all were born and made big expansions less than 10ky.

Many forms of U5 can be associated with a particular region but U5 itself can not.

[noman]

What was the y dna haplogroup of Alexander the great?

[Bonnie4of8]

I am also Haplo Group H. I am wondering about it and where it comes from.

[Grubbe]

https://rd.springer.com/article/10.1...520-018-0609-7 The Hungarian king Bela III has been tested to be R1a - maybe Z280 or M458?

[Dibran]

https://rd.springer.com/article/10.1...520-018-0609-7 The Hungarian king Bela III has been tested to be R1a - maybe Z280 or M458?

More likely Z93, being descended from the Steppe. There is a small possibility Z280. It would really shake things up if he was M458(no aDNA yet).

[Carlos]

I want to know the haplogroup of the Queen of Spain, Letizia,
because with his daughter Leonor, the Spanish blood returns to recover the throne of Spain.

[Li CALZI]

I want to know the dna of Empress Elisabeth of Austria

[shawnwbates]

Does anyone have Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh’s actual published STRs? Or know where I can find them? Thx

[shawnwbates]

Did you get an answer to this question. I’m looking for the same info

[Dema]

Y-DNA of Richard III was G2:

http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/royaldna.shtml

This site was very informative and nice source of information. Sadly, for some time now, its down.
Im sorry i didnt save entire page so i could do offline browsing.

Does anyone has any info about this? Or any alternative source of information similar to this?


Eupedia could had something like this but that is work, and work is time. Even tho there is something like this but on much lower scale and not so interesting from my perspective.

[Johane Derite]

How come there is no DNA testing being done of Philips remains? I want to know what haplogroup the Argead dynasty was.

LINK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip...ip_II_at_Aigai