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    New map : expansion of agriculture in Europe

    I have created a new map showing the spread of agriculture from its origins in the Near East around 9500 BCE until the adoption of farming in the British Isles and Scandinavia around 4000 BCE.

    The Baltic, northern Russia and Finland are in white because farming only reached that part of the continent around 2500-2000 BCE, when bronze-age Indo-Europeans migrated northward. I do not have the dates for northern Anatolia.

    Keep in mind that the ocean/sea levels were lower than now in the early Neolithic. Britain was still attached to mainland Europe when agriculture spread from Anatolia to Greece around 7000 BCE. It only became an island around 6500 BCE. The Aegean was lower too, which undeniably facilitated the crossing from Asia to Europe. Some of the earliest agricultural sites in the Aegean may well be under water now.

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    Great job, Maciamo. Which sources did you use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cambria Red View Post
    Great job, Maciamo. Which sources did you use?
    I have many history and archeology books at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maciamo View Post
    I have many history and archeology books at home.
    I'm sure...

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    Lo siento pero en lo que respecta a la peninsula iberica no es correcto, la primera zona donde se da la agricultura es en el valle del Guadalquivir y su datación está en torno a los 7.000-6.000 BCE. La cultura de ceramica impresa es posterior y esta relacionada con el neolitico italiano en torno a los 5.000 BCE y afecta al litoral mediterraneo iberico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reixach View Post
    Lo siento pero en lo que respecta a la peninsula iberica no es correcto, la primera zona donde se da la agricultura es en el valle del Guadalquivir y su dataci�n est� en torno a los 7.000-6.000 BCE. La cultura de ceramica impresa es posterior y esta relacionada con el neolitico italiano en torno a los 5.000 BCE y afecta al litoral mediterraneo iberico.
    It's not possible. Even Greece wasn't agricultural in 7000 BCE (except Crete). Sesklo, the first agricultural settlement in Thessaly, dates from 6500 BCE. Farming first appears in southern Italy around 6000-5800 BCE. Are you saying that agriculture developed independently in Spain ?

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    Hola Maciamo perdona por no contestarte. En Andalucía se diferencian dos focos importantes en el neolitico, uno esta representado por la ceramica a la almagra y el otro por la ceramica cardial o impresa, la Almagra se desarrolla principalmente en Malaga y Cordoba y la cardial principalmente en Granada y Almeria, el origen de la cardial es el levante mediterraneo venida desde Italia, pero el origen de la ceramica a la almagra yo lo desconozco. Ahora se sabe que la ceramica a la almagra es anterior (6.500-6.300 aC) a la ceramica cardial (5.800 aC), si tu sabes mas de la ceramica a la almagra...

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    Aqui pongo un enlace del neolitico en Andalucia occidental:

    http://e-spacio.uned.es/fez/eserv.ph...6C9E9&dsID=PDF

    El texto es de Pilar Acosta Martinez, catedratica de prehistoria de la universidad de Sevilla.

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    Maciamo, great job!

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    Maciamo,
    Nice map.
    What about the Ceide Fields (5,500 bce), Ireland, if not agriculture.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%A9ide_Fields

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    Great job. Thanks for posting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reixach View Post
    Aqui pongo un enlace del neolitico en Andalucia occidental:

    http://e-spacio.uned.es/fez/eserv.ph...6C9E9&dsID=PDF

    El texto es de Pilar Acosta Martinez, catedratica de prehistoria de la universidad de Sevilla.

    Last edited by Carlitos; 03-10-10 at 18:32.

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