Race and IQ

Is there a difference of IQ between the larger race groups?

  • Yes, I think so.

    Votes: 64 58.7%
  • No, I don't think so.

    Votes: 31 28.4%
  • Not sure.

    Votes: 14 12.8%

  • Total voters
    109
OK. So finally you admit (what you were priorly denying) that you believe that there are races more intelligent than others. Thanks.

Greetings.

Now explain to all of us how is this racist, or just wrong???

(what you were priorly denying)
And quote me denying it.
 
You are way off. Most geneticists, anthropologists and sociologists see it at 50 / 50. Look it up.
Can you post the formula they were using to come up to 50/50?
Oh, let me help you, there is none. It's just a guess! Did you know that?
Did you know that in 60s and 70s many same scientists believed that we are born as clean slate? 100% social outcome, 0 for genes.
So what's your guess? Are you brave enough, or prefer hiding behind guessing scientists?
 
Are you guys going to post something related to IQ or intelligent enough, or just bulling and harassing around, hmmm?
 
Now explain to all of us how is this racist, or just wrong???

Suggesting that some races are more intelligent than others sounds very much like racial supremacy propaganda to me thus it is racist.

And quote me denying it.

Apparently you're also suffering a first stage of Alzheimer.

Here is the quote:

I never said one is better, other worse, just that there are differences between populations.

Taken from: http://www.eupedia.com/forum/showpost.php?p=359793&postcount=52

And now don't try to being euphemistic and give me that being more intelligent than other doesn't make one better than other, please. :rolleyes:

Greetings.
 
Suggesting that some races are more intelligent than others sounds very much like racial supremacy propaganda to me thus it is racist.



Apparently you're also suffering a first stage of Alzheimer.

Here is the quote:



Taken from: http://www.eupedia.com/forum/showpost.php?p=359793&postcount=52

And now don't try to being euphemistic and give me that being more intelligent than other doesn't make one better than other, please. :rolleyes:

Greetings.

The set of criteria you have engraved in your brain doesn't let you get out of some sort of brain block, and open to ideas. Not sure if this is a public education, religion, or too counter intuitive, or just purely egocentrism.

If intelligence IQ was, generally speaking, a better thing, all animal species on this planet would be super intelligent/1000IQ after vast 500 million years of evolution, wouldn’t they. You can say 120IQ is better, superior or higher than 100, but you can't say that a man with 120 is better than man with 100, because there is so much more that make us humans than IQ intelligence. Total adaptation to environment and survivability of offsprings counts the most.
In few years this “more” intelligent men can blow the planet apart, just because he can. Wouldn’t it be better to have lesser IQ and be alive, and still hunt in the forest, and make human race survive other millions of years? Which man is better than?

Nature doesn't care; it's just blind evolution and adaptation. For nature nothing's better or worse, it's just is. To fully understand our species and nature, embrace these criteria, or you'll never get it. Don't hang to long in this socio/religious dogma of good and evil, better and worse. These are concepts invented by people and they don’t exist in nature, they don’t exist outside of human brain.
Here is another example that makes many people confused. We have prairie Indians issues in Canada. They are not really adapted to Western/European way of living, and economically speaking they are fending much worse than average citizen.
Many people, like you, would conclude that they are the lesser human beings. But it's not true. They are hunter/gatherers and adapted to their environment, and were completely fine till Europeans changed their environment.
If it was reversed, and Europeans were forced into hunter-gatherer environment they would suck too, and people would conclude that they are lesser humans, right?
I come from Europe with agricultural set of genes developed through 10 thousand years, and I'm doing great in Canada. Even considering the fact that I learned language on a fly, raising 3 kids and running a business. Native people born here, with 20 thousand a year of government subsidy (family of 5 = 100 000, and no taxes), are rarity to be in my position.
Take alcohol for example. I can enjoy it with no adverse effect on my life. Thousand years of evolution with alcohol in Europe did the trick, I can digest it better and I can stop at will. But alcohol is new for Natives, and everyone can see the disasters consequences it brings in their communities. They might need a thousand years to adapt to it, not much else can be done with it.
Yes, I can clearly see the differences between races, but just seeing them doesn’t make one a racist. I can never say that I'm a better or superior human being than average Perrier Indian. All I can say is that I'm better adapted, better fitting the European agricultural and technological way of life. Throw me in hunter-gatherer environment and I'll be dead quickly, lol.
Hopefully this cleared up your thoughts.

I stated it before and I state it now. Yes all races have differences and similarities and it should be acknowledged, but everyone should be equal under the law, should enjoy same freedoms, privileges and responsibilities, we should be all inclusive in our societies, and everybody should feel as an important and a valid member. The only exception in treatment should be for people not accepting these rules. Long live global village.


PS
Also point me to just one statistic showing all races IQ equal!

And I also noticed that some people are whiter than the others, does this make me a racist too?
Would you get an impression that I'm suggesting that the whiter would be a better man, than less white?
 
Can you post the formula they were using to come up to 50/50?
Oh, let me help you, there is none. It's just a guess! Did you know that?
Did you know that in 60s and 70s many same scientists believed that we are born as clean slate? 100% social outcome, 0 for genes.
So what's your guess? Are you brave enough, or prefer hiding behind guessing scientists?

Me, hiding? Are you serious? And how did you come up with your absurd 80 / 20 figure? Did you guess? :LOL:

It's pretty cleat that people from a deprived environment have lower IQ's, and that is hardly a guess. There is no guessing as far as geneticists and social scientists go. Scientific journals don't allow guesswork to be published, OK? I'll provide the most recent material I can find...
 
Oh, keep digging, I'll be waiting a long time......
Yes, it's my guess, and so are the 50/50 ones, and you know why?, because this is the safest guess, lol.

How come we can't hear your educated thoughts on this one, hmmm? Actually I'm yet to read your independent thought on any subject. How come you're not posting your ideas, hypothesis, your independent thinking. Just go on a limb once, and post an idea straight from your head. What are you, some kind of scholar that hinds behind someone else's work all the time?! No independent ideas in your head there, hmmm? Just ones humor me with your educated or not guess, build a concept, make something of your own thinking.
All you can do, with sidekicks linx and Wilhelm, to criticise someone else's posts. And I don't mean in a critique way, just pure obnoctious, abusive, arrogant, ridiculing manner.
So, just once, from yourself only, be brave, post your idea for the discussion, on any subject.
 
LeBrok, thanks for making my points about you again with your supremacist statements. Keep talking, please. (y)
 
Oh, that's it, curling your tail and running away? No detailed analysis of my "racist" statements?
Just a general lazy statement?
How about answering the questions from PS?
 
Oh, keep digging, I'll be waiting a long time......
Yes, it's my guess, and so are the 50/50 ones, and you know why?, because this is the safest guess, lol.

How come we can't hear your educated thoughts on this one, hmmm? Actually I'm yet to read your independent thought on any subject. How come you're not posting your ideas, hypothesis, your independent thinking. Just go on a limb once, and post an idea straight from your head. What are you, some kind of scholar that hinds behind someone else's work all the time?! No independent ideas in your head there, hmmm? Just ones humor me with your educated or not guess, build a concept, make something of your own thinking.
All you can do, with sidekicks linx and Wilhelm, to criticise someone else's posts. And I don't mean in a critique way, just pure obnoctious, abusive, arrogant, ridiculing manner.
So, just once, from yourself only, be brave, post your idea for the discussion, on any subject.

You are rather bizarre. Are you angry at the world? Am I sensing someone who is suffering from extreme delusion?

You have no idea who or what you are dealing with. :LOL:
 
I have no idea what is the most important factor in determining intelligence, I am sure that genetics is a large part of it. I also believe that environment and nutrition of the fetus during development is just as important.
However I do feel that that there are some differences in the different racial types that are caused by genetics. Perhaps some of the effects are epigenetic in nature and are caused by environmental stresses.
 
You are rather bizarre. Are you angry at the world? Am I sensing someone who is suffering from extreme delusion?

You have no idea who or what you are dealing with. :LOL:

Is this your original and independent thinking idea???
Are you trying to disappoint me even more?

Keep digging dude, waiting for 50/50 research....
 
Absolutely Aristander, I'm sure with better diet, especially through childhood and pregnancy, the third world can increase so called IQ, possibly by 10%. Also we don't know exactly how strongly proper education from the youngest years can do for intelligence. It's still a new science, with many wholes and fresh methodology, and many more years will pass till we know how many different intelligences we are dealing with and should test.
 
Is this your original and independent thinking idea???
Are you trying to disappoint me even more?

Keep digging dude, waiting for 50/50 research....
We are still waiting for your 80/20 theory...Almos all psyhcologists agree that it is 50/50. Read any psychology book
 
We are still waiting for your 80/20 theory...Almos all psyhcologists agree that it is 50/50. Read any psychology book

Wilhelm, she hasn't posted any source... and she won't post any source. What do you expect? A link to stormfront? :rolleyes:

And LeBrok, darling, I don't need to analyze your racist garbage. You claim that some races are more intelligent than others which is plain racism.

rac?ism (rszm)
n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

Definition of racism by: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/racist

You can explain your theories over and over, you can even write a whole book with your thoughts about it... at the end of the day it's still racism.

Greetings.
 
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theres only one answer to this question... The human race has the highest IQ.
 
Wilhelm and linx, if you guys came here to deliberate on the subject and not to bully and ridicule, you would read what I say at first place.
Concentrated on how to degrade other human being you guys missed the content of my posts.
I said that 80/20 is my guess, so what source/link I should post Wilhelm???!!!
Cambria said that 50/50 is scientifically calculated, so I'm waiting for the calculation.

Linx, if for you more intelligent is a superior human being, than this is your problem.
I have another question for you:
If your neighbor is less intelligent from you, and you know it, and he's a different race. Does this make you feel superior and racist at same time?

I'm still waiting for answers form previous posts. Don't be afraid, it can only make you smarter.


Even with definition of racism is not that easy. Every dictionary and philosopher looks at it a different way. Here is some more explanation from Wiki:

Although the term racism usually denotes race-based prejudice, violence, dislike, discrimination, or oppression, the term can also have varying and contested definitions. Racialism is a related term, sometimes intended to avoid these negative meanings. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, racism is a belief or ideology that all members of each racial group possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially to distinguish it as being either superior or inferior to another racial group or racial groups. [4]
The Merriam-Webster's Dictionary defines racism as a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority or inferiority of a particular racial group, and that it is also the prejudice based on such a belief. The Macquarie Dictionary defines racism as: "the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule or dominate others."
According to Charles V Hamilton and Kwame Ture (aka Stokely Carmichael) it (racism) is the predication of decisions & policies on considerations of race for the purpose of subordinating a racial group (ethnicity) and maintaining control over that group.

Anything else you would like to pick on? Just groundless accusation, and character assassination? What about just pure bulling, name calling, degrading, hmmm? Just to feed your psychopathic personalities, or go with Department instructions.
 

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