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    Quote Originally Posted by julia90 View Post
    You are a tuscan of the border then. almost ligurian (and indeed you are descendant of ligurians who in ancient time lived there: Liguri Apuani).
    Your dialect has north italian way to speek too. But i don't know, Do you speek with Si impersonale, or with tuscan c, t, p, ?

    I remeber a typical feature of Versilia speech (and i don't know if Carrarese o Massese too), famous in televison also thanks to Mario Il Bagnino di Panariello . "Marianna'n Gane!!" "Beatrige ghe dige!" the use of g in some part of the speech, this is a feature present only in that place, and not in the rest of italy.
    Salve, Julia

    I am from the Lunigiana, north of La Spezia.

    Although the things I have read indicate that the line between the northern celtic romance dialects and the more central Italian dialects is generally south of La Spezia, other things I have read say Massa. I'm not a linguist so I don't know. In the Lunigiana, anyway, it's more complicated I think; it depends on geography, and whether Emilia, Liguria or Toscana ruled it and for how long. Where I was born, the dialect is a mixture of all three. (And yes, it has that strange "g" sound. I read somewhere it is also present in Corsica, which makes sense, but I have no idea where it originated.)

    My parents were of a generation and a type that valued speaking standard Italian rather than dialect, so they made a point of not speaking to me in dialect. I picked it up outside the home, so I am not a pro by any means. It is very different today. There is a resurgence in dialect there, so much so that in Pontremoli students study in dialect one hour a day, and many towns are changing the road signs naming the towns to dialect. A mistake in my opinion. (And God help the tourists!)

    FWIW I don't think genetics exactly mirror language here, and I think the people are generally much more similar to Tuscans than to northerners.

    Giulia, I just realized our conversation about language is probably off topic for this thread. If you or an administrator want to move it, that's more than fine with me.

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    From wikipedia (Italian):

    Da fonti classiche si apprende che il territorio fu abitato nell'antichità preromana dai Sengauni, detti anche Liguri Montani o Liguri Apuani.
    Al tempo della Seconda guerra punica, gli Apuani (che abitavano non solo la Lunigiana, ma anche la Garfagnana e la Versilia) si schierarono con Annibale e restarono fino alla fine gli unici Liguri che non si arresero mai ai Romani, a differenza di tutte le altre tribù che, ad una ad una, capitolarono di fronte all'espansione di quello che sarebbe di lì a poco diventato l'Impero Romano.
    Con la deportazione in massa nel Sannio dei circa cinquantamila Apuani che popolavano la regione (evento testimoniato da Tito Livio) si completa il difficile processo di conquista romana del territorio (180 a.C.).

    All North-West Tuscany was inhabitated by Ligurians types.


    A map of Tuscan Dialects:

    apuano Anche se per molti linguisti questa attribuzione del dialetto massese ai dialetti toscani, non ha altre giustificazioni che di ordine geografico, essendo evidente, a un analisi di tipo linguistico, la scarsissime influenze del toscano, salvo nella zona d'immediata frontiera, come la fraz. di Montignoso, dove si può invece parlare di dialetto di transizione tra il toscano di versilia e i dialetti gallo-italici apuani.

    As you say your dialect is of Transition From Gallo italic- to Tuscan;
    in the area of Versilia instead is definitely tuscan

    This is the way they speak in Versilia and also in Lunigiana maybe:
    Mario Il Bagnino by Panariello :-D
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    I've been there twice and loved it! I feel that Rome is a city where I would like to live for a few years...

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    Went to Sardinia, Rimini and lately Torino and Cuneo, which I both recommend, amazing destinations to see another facet of Italy. I'd love to spend a couple of years in Roma, it's an idea maturing in my mind for quite some time. When the german winters will be too hard to bear...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BusyBee View Post
    I've been there twice and loved it! I feel that Rome is a city where I would like to live for a few years...
    Quote Originally Posted by Cimmerianbloke View Post
    Went to Sardinia, Rimini and lately Torino and Cuneo, which I both recommend, amazing destinations to see another facet of Italy. I'd love to spend a couple of years in Roma, it's an idea maturing in my mind for quite some time. When the german winters will be too hard to bear...
    I'm 22 and it's 22 years living here in Roma! I can't stand the traffic anymore!!! Ahahahah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riccardo View Post
    I'm 22 and it's 22 years living here in Roma! I can't stand the traffic anymore!!! Ahahahah!
    I love Roma and I consider Latials our closest brothers in Italy.
    Ps: Neapolitans then should shot themselves in the head for the traffic. :P

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    Yes, I have been to Italy 7 times.
    I have visited the following cities:
    Rome, in my opinion the most beautiful city in Italy and the second in Europe after Paris.
    Turin/Torino, elegant French-style city.
    Milan/Milano, modern and bustling city.
    Padova, Only I could see it at night.
    Bologna, I liked it.
    Venice, the second most beautiful city in Italy.
    Verona, very intesting, with a lot of monuments.
    Trieste, I didn't like. Trieste has a grand square by the sea, but the rest of the city wasn's nice for me. Sorry for trentinos.
    Genova, typical coastal city of the Mediterranean sea, it reminded me some cities in Spain and Portugal (Porto). A lot of monuments too. Interesting but a bit shabby.
    Florence/Firenze, I was a little disappointed. For me it is inferior to Rome or Venice.
    Siena, very nice.
    Napoli. This is the city in Italy I least liked, because although it has plenty of historical monuments, the city is in chaos, and is very neglected.
    Sorrento. Nice place, totally different of Napoli.
    Palermo. Similar to Napoli.
    Catania, nice city, more modern and cleaner than Palermo.
    Taormina, too tourists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sybilla View Post
    I love Roma and I consider Latials our closest brothers in Italy.
    Ps: Neapolitans then should shot themselves in the head for the traffic. :P
    Hey, hey, hey! You couldn't offend me more calling me "Latial". Forza Roma!!!! xD =D =D =D

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    yes i have visited italy, i live there :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferreiro_ View Post
    Yes, I have been to Italy 7 times.
    I have visited the following cities:
    Rome, in my opinion the most beautiful city in Italy and the second in Europe after Paris.
    Turin/Torino, elegant French-style city.
    Milan/Milano, modern and bustling city.
    Padova, Only I could see it at night.
    Bologna, I liked it.
    Venice, the second most beautiful city in Italy.
    Verona, very intesting, with a lot of monuments.
    Trieste, I didn't like. Trieste has a grand square by the sea, but the rest of the city wasn's nice for me. Sorry for trentinos.
    Genova, typical coastal city of the Mediterranean sea, it reminded me some cities in Spain and Portugal (Porto). A lot of monuments too. Interesting but a bit shabby.
    Florence/Firenze, I was a little disappointed. For me it is inferior to Rome or Venice.
    Siena, very nice.
    Napoli. This is the city in Italy I least liked, because although it has plenty of historical monuments, the city is in chaos, and is very neglected.
    Sorrento. Nice place, totally different of Napoli.
    Palermo. Similar to Napoli.
    Catania, nice city, more modern and cleaner than Palermo.
    Taormina, too tourists.
    I agree Paris is better than Rome, but i dislike them both, its because I do not like cities which are over 500000 in population, their character is lost.

    BYW trentinos are not from trieste , they are from Trento ( north italy in the alps), people from trieste are called triestini

    Also, Cinque Terre is very nice in Liguria as well as Portovenere ( the castle there is used for the man in the iron mask movies)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferreiro_ View Post
    Yes, I have been to Italy 7 times.
    I have visited the following cities:
    Rome, in my opinion the most beautiful city in Italy and the second in Europe after Paris.
    Turin/Torino, elegant French-style city.
    Milan/Milano, modern and bustling city.
    Padova, Only I could see it at night.
    Bologna, I liked it.
    Venice, the second most beautiful city in Italy.
    Verona, very intesting, with a lot of monuments.
    Trieste, I didn't like. Trieste has a grand square by the sea, but the rest of the city wasn's nice for me. Sorry for trentinos.
    Genova, typical coastal city of the Mediterranean sea, it reminded me some cities in Spain and Portugal (Porto). A lot of monuments too. Interesting but a bit shabby.
    Florence/Firenze, I was a little disappointed. For me it is inferior to Rome or Venice.
    Siena, very nice.
    Napoli. This is the city in Italy I least liked, because although it has plenty of historical monuments, the city is in chaos, and is very neglected.
    Sorrento. Nice place, totally different of Napoli.
    Palermo. Similar to Napoli.
    Catania, nice city, more modern and cleaner than Palermo.
    Taormina, too tourists.
    Bergamo (Upper Town) and Mantua are worth seeing too. So is the old town of Bolzano (Bozen in German) which has a beautiful Tyrolean/Austrian feel as do nearby towns like Ortisei and Merano.

    I agree that Florence is overrated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vallicanus View Post
    Bergamo (Upper Town) and Mantua are worth seeing too. So is the old town of Bolzano (Bozen in German) which has a beautiful Tyrolean/Austrian feel as do nearby towns like Ortisei and Merano.

    I agree that Florence is overrated.
    agree fully

    I forgot Bergamo, coming out of the rail station and looking straight up these very wide roads to the upper walled city.

    Bassano ( Basan in venetian ) di Grappa is another nice town , with its nice bridge and looking into snow capped alps.

    Lucca in north west tuscany is very nice.......make sure you scale the tower, view of the full town is great,...BTW , the only town in Italy where I got lost and I had a map with me as well

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    Two times, and very nice country ;)

    I enjoyed visiting Pompeia!

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    I've been in Rome about a year ago for one day. I would really like to visit again and spend more time there.

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    I've noticed most tour operators arrange Venice-Florence-Rome journeys; other beautiful parts of Italy are often snubbed. Such a pity!
    Anyway, I'm from Genoa and most tourist come and visit the Acquario (ok, it's the largest in Europe, but not the most interesting attraction we've got... no way it is...), as others go the Cinque Terre. Every corner is touristically precious although. Damn those tour operators

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    I love Italy. I left my heart there so I have to go back and claim it, it's probably at the baggage claim in Fiumicino. I've been to Milan, Turin, Verona, Venice, Bologna, Florence, Rome, Naples, Sorrento, Almalfi/Maiori and Campobasso. My family are from the commune of Ferrazzano of Campobasso, though, I am from NY. Molise has a very interesting history with the Samnites and Lombards. I really hope there will be more studies on Samnite culture. I hear a lot of negative things about Naples and the south generally speaking but I must say that Naples and the people from the mezzogiorno are some of the nicest and beautiful I've met. Naples is a jungle for sure, but it gets a bad rap. I like it's attitude and chaos. I can't say any city is overrated in Italy simply because I come from a small town that has the aesthetic beauty of an abandoned warehouse and charm of a cold sore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auld Reekie View Post
    I love Italy. I left my heart there so I have to go back and claim it, it's probably at the baggage claim in Fiumicino. I've been to Milan, Turin, Verona, Venice, Bologna, Florence, Rome, Naples, Sorrento, Almalfi/Maiori and Campobasso. My family are from the commune of Ferrazzano of Campobasso, though, I am from NY. Molise has a very interesting history with the Samnites and Lombards. I really hope there will be more studies on Samnite culture. I hear a lot of negative things about Naples and the south generally speaking but I must say that Naples and the people from the mezzogiorno are some of the nicest and beautiful I've met. Naples is a jungle for sure, but it gets a bad rap. I like it's attitude and chaos. I can't say any city is overrated in Italy simply because I come from a small town that has the aesthetic beauty of an abandoned warehouse and charm of a cold sore.
    Next time, give Liguria a try, Auld Reekie. (What does that name mean, btw?) There are the beautiful resort towns like Portofino and Santa Margherita, and the Cinque Terre, and Lerici as well, but you should visit Genova too, especially if you can appreciate the sometimes raffish charm of port cities. Genova is as unique in its way as Venezia.

    The lakes, especially Como, are also beautiful, and you could spend a month and more just exploring the towns of Toscana and Umbria.

    You'll thank me for it, everyone always does...

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    I will go there next, actually I'm leaving for Italy soon. I hope to spend a lot of time in Liguria. I did stop through Bordighera for lunch once. Is that where you're from? I'm planning to go to Sienna to see the Palio and hopscotch all over Italy and hope to see Sardinia and Sicily as well. Also, Auld Reekie is an old name for Edinburgh. It means 'old smoke' and some attribute it to 'smell'. I've read you could smell Edinburgh before actually seeing it back in the 17th-18th centuries. I thought it was a charming name, not that I smell...I hope. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auld Reekie View Post
    I will go there next, actually I'm leaving for Italy soon. I hope to spend a lot of time in Liguria. I did stop through Bordighera for lunch once. Is that where you're from? I'm planning to go to Sienna to see the Palio and hopscotch all over Italy and hope to see Sardinia and Sicily as well. Also, Auld Reekie is an old name for Edinburgh. It means 'old smoke' and some attribute it to 'smell'. I've read you could smell Edinburgh before actually seeing it back in the 17th-18th centuries. I thought it was a charming name, not that I smell...I hope. :)
    I'm to leave very soon to spend the summer there myself. I'm sure I'll be in Genova at one point or another, but home base is further east, near the Cinque Terre (great for hiking btw) and Lerici. It's an easy cross over to Sardinia from there. If you're going to be in Toscana, take the opportunity to see some of the smaller towns, or cross over into Umbria. Cortona is lovely, and you might like Perugia as well...it's a big student town because of the University for Foreigners there.

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    I'm aching to be back! Maybe we'll cross paths and won't even know it haha :) I was going to ask a question on Italian authors but I'll post it separately later on a different thread before I ramble on.

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    Beautiful country!

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    I was there twice. I seen Rome, Milan and Bergamo.

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    I traveled almost over all Italy and I am liked it very much. I was especially impressed with Rome, Venice and Sicily. I highly recommend a visit to Italy and getting to know its history, culture and gastronomy, you will not remain indifferent, I assure you.

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    I agree that it is most beautiful country in Europe... I would say it is self-contained civilization

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    Quote Originally Posted by PIER1A View Post
    I agree that it is most beautiful country in Europe... I would say it is self-contained civilization
    I find it difficult to say the most beautiful as so many regions have so much beauty in their own way all over the continent and I am sure that there are so many that deserves visiting. What I can say is recently i had the opportunity to travel by car between Rome Bari and Naples and the landscape is breath taking especially in the mountain areas.

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