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    There is a Petrov, T1a2 in the Bulgarian project.
    Google Bulgarian Dna ftdna results

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    Quote Originally Posted by td120 View Post
    There is a Petrov, T1a2 in the Bulgarian project.
    Google Bulgarian Dna ftdna results
    There are 5 bulgarians on this site who are T1a haplogroup, what is the ID of Petrov?

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    The only name with cyrillic letters...

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    Thank you
    One is a macedonian that went to Bulgaria , as stated ...............he too looks like T1a2 branch

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    Thank you
    One is a macedonian that went to Bulgaria , as stated ...............he too looks like T1a2 branch
    Just to clarify he is Bulgarian from a region called Macedonia, !

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    If you google the Bulgarian DNA results at FTDNA you'll bump into the map of most distant ancestors of the participants (among them are the T-hg's too). A great part will show origins outside the present political map of the country...

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    Hapogroup T has been in bulgaria since neolithic period, can we confirm if any of these 5 ones in the project are slavic or non-slavic in origin ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by td120 View Post
    If you google the Bulgarian DNA results at FTDNA you'll bump into the map of most distant ancestors of the participants (among them are the T-hg's too). A great part will show origins outside the present political map of the country...


    Don’t blame us. :)
    In this thread alone I counted 3 different Macedonias.
    even Alexander would get confused.

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    yup...

    Torzio, them T's are ethnic Bulgarians . Autosomally not very different than other Bulgarians participating in the project .Minority groups are listed in separate graphs.
    There are some among the others with non-Bulgarian parents ,but very few (half Russian, American etc.). Check out the map, will give you a better idea.

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    td120
    thankyou

    Are they ancient bulgars that came from the north caucasus or could they be Avars or mabe even Gepid/Goths ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by td120 View Post
    If you google the Bulgarian DNA results at FTDNA you'll bump into the map of most distant ancestors of the participants (among them are the T-hg's too). A great part will show origins outside the present political map of the country...
    So who is talking about maps? People who identified and feel Bulgarian lived in what is today Turkey, Greece, North Macedonia,Serbia, Romania etc. Just like with Turks, Hungarians,Germans, Poles we are b y no means restricted into what is today Bulgaria. Anyways all T's in our Project listed in the main group are Bulgarians, there are separate categories for Turks ,others and even Pomaks. People from Bulgaria are not always Bulgarians, some are Gypsies and Turks and others, and Bulgarians often have roots in North Macedonia, Greece and European Turkey.
    Just like Somalian from Stockholm is not Swedish he is Somalian and a guy with roots in Germany born in New York is not having direct line Native American, but German.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaan View Post
    So who is talking about maps? People who identified and feel Bulgarian lived in what is today Turkey, Greece, North Macedonia,Serbia, Romania etc. Just like with Turks, Hungarians,Germans, Poles we are b y no means restricted into what is today Bulgaria. Anyways all T's in our Project listed in the main group are Bulgarians, there are separate categories for Turks ,others and even Pomaks. People from Bulgaria are not always Bulgarians, some are Gypsies and Turks and others, and Bulgarians often have roots in North Macedonia, Greece and European Turkey.
    Just like Somalian from Stockholm is not Swedish he is Somalian and a guy with roots in Germany born in New York is not having direct line Native American, but German.
    Are these T's bulgars from the caucasus of ancient thracians ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    Are these T's bulgars from the caucasus of ancient thracians ?
    They are Bulgarians. When there are tests of ancient Bulgars and Thrachians we can compare with modern people :)

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    apparently my sample did not qualify in this site stringent 5 tests


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    Gubina paper 2012 for kazaks

    1/30 of T1a found = 3.33% in Altai Kazaks

    19/49 of T1a found = 39% in Kosh Kazaks

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    It’s unlikely, FT62750 is new to me, but many pages00113 were Ashkenazy from that general area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    It’s unlikely, FT62750 is new to me, but many pages00113 were Ashkenazy from that general area.
    thanks

    BTW...they moved us around in ftdna T project......only person in that group which matches me in ftdna is Mr. Hoff

    I have recently spoken to new T person name Bartosiak who has T-Z19945 .........I think he is a polish-american or a Slowian ( scythian-slav ) if such a thing exists, i am unsure


    The more and more I check my line , the more I see a non-anatolian passage into Europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    thanks

    BTW...they moved us around in ftdna T project......only person in that group which matches me in ftdna is Mr. Hoff

    I have recently spoken to new T person name Bartosiak who has T-Z19945 .........I think he is a polish-american or a Slowian ( scythian-slav ) if such a thing exists, i am unsure


    The more and more I check my line , the more I see a non-anatolian passage into Europe
    In our group you’re right under me, I don't know if it means anything, or if it's just a coincidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    In our group you’re right under me, I don't know if it means anything, or if it's just a coincidence.
    it means you rule me ...as I am below you


    Spoke to the Pole , he has done BigY and is emailing Gareth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    In our group you’re right under me, I don't know if it means anything, or if it's just a coincidence.
    We do not match in Ftdna ..................I do not know why

    nor do I match with Benningfield from Kentucky
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    the Montenegrian just above him

    I am 1 step from Hoff ..........which is useless to me as 1 step could be 2000 years

    I have spoken to Lee and his ancestors have always been from York England

    and the Irish person is also 1 step from me in ftdna but is a distant relative in yfull

    IN18012 ...I was told is a connecicut family ............either surname frost or coleman, but I could be wrong

    N184890 .....could be associated with Lee

    the Iraqi I was told is from Mosul


    In yfull..............brooks and curtiss are my direct matches ........which confuses me on why ftdna separated us ...........there is clearly a difference between ftdna and yfull in terms of matching


    It is like in ftdna has me as a 3rd cousin name of Cristina Tax ( who has ydna of T ) of the netherlands .............no idea where they get 3rd cousin from

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    apparently my sample did not qualify in this site stringent 5 tests

    I do not know where ftdna are going with Big-y tree for Z19945

    I now get under Z19945 branch

    my line ....plain Z19945 with 33 private variants ?
    CTS1848 which I am negative for
    Pages00113 which I am negative for
    FT62750 which I am negative for
    BY64684 which I am negative for

    It seems Z19945 is a major snp in the T-L131 branch

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    @ salento

    Yfull just placed the polish flag on that new T-Z19945
    gives him these snp so far

    CTS10538, CTS9984, CTS8862, Z19944, Z19953, BY143483, Z19945, Z19946, PH3117, Y26649

    says he is from
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pomeranian_Voivodeship

    actually below is the spot
    https://www.britannica.com/place/Zachodniopomorskie


    damn ...ysearch ...........I had a another person with T-Z19945 from that land .................pity ftdna , closed it

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    probably unrelated, but ...

    I heard stories of ww2 Italian soldiers captured/injured in Poland,

    after the war ended some were forced to stay there,

    eventually many got married (although some of them were already married in Italy)

    Many were declared Fallen or Missing in action by the Italian Government.

    All this came to light in the early ‘90s, when all of a sudden they came back to Italy with their entire families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    probably unrelated, but ...

    I heard stories of ww2 Italian soldiers captured/injured in Poland,

    after the war ended some were forced to stay there,

    eventually many got married (although some of them were already married in Italy)

    Many were declared Fallen or Missing in action by the Italian Government.

    All this came to light in the early ‘90, when all of a sudden they came back to Italy with their entire families.
    not to say his origins are from there ..............but he comes from Old Prusi lands ( not prussians ) ....but West-balts ethnicity , ancient Warmians etc.....fought crusaders in the 13th century because they where pagans .........crusaders came there only from saxons and thuringians

    for what it is worth

    https://web.archive.org/web/20120204...mbutas-01.html

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