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    Quote Originally Posted by TaktikatEMalet View Post
    Wow thats nice, ardea were basically in rome before rome existed? It makes sense why T isnt rare in italy unlike rest of europe, seems to have a hotspot in and around rome
    there are 3 x T ydna from neolithic central Germany .................another 2 x T in neolithic bulgaria ..............plus a new T neolithic sample found a month or so ago in czech lands
    my conclusion ...............T ydna are early ( ancient ) pure hunters..........very early ydna in europe......most probably hunting the red deer in northern Germany
    Fathers mtdna ...... T2b17
    Grandfather mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ...... K1a4p
    Mothers line ..... R1b-S8172
    Grandmother paternal side ... I1-CTS6397
    Wife paternal line ..... R1a-PF6155

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    … Bronze-Age England Migration, 803 samples (Zero y T).
    There are y T Neolithic and Iron-Age samples, but none in the Bronze Age?
    … from the Roman paper:

    … “The T1a haplogroup, although absent in our samples prior to Iron Age, has previously been found in early farmers in Bulgaria (5,800-5,400 calBCE) and Germany (5,500-4,850 BCE)” …

    https://www.science.org/action/downl...antonio_sm.pdf

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    In the T project ( modern ) ..............
    after many tests , these below seem unique

    there is a tested Y37 ..........who is K-M9 and is a Kurdish Iraqi ....................I wonder why they placed it in the T ydna ............could have also went with R ydna, or N, O, P, M, S, L

    there is also a tested Y67 .............T-M184 from East Germany

    and last
    T-PH110 from Black sea Georgia ..................we now have Germany, Armenia and Bhutan and Georgia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    … Bronze-Age England Migration, 803 samples (Zero y T).
    There are y T Neolithic and Iron-Age samples, but none in the Bronze Age?
    … from the Roman paper:
    … “The T1a haplogroup, although absent in our samples prior to Iron Age, has previously been found in early farmers in Bulgaria (5,800-5,400 calBCE) and Germany (5,500-4,850 BCE)” …
    https://www.science.org/action/downl...antonio_sm.pdf
    This means that most T1a found in england now was likely from roman settlement, though it is still rare

    According to torzio T was near Rome prior to Roman empire. So it would have been assimilated and moved with the roman conquests. Does anyone know how common T1a is in spain and portugal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaktikatEMalet View Post
    This means that most T1a found in england now was likely from roman settlement, though it is still rare

    According to torzio T was near Rome prior to Roman empire. So it would have been assimilated and moved with the roman conquests. Does anyone know how common T1a is in spain and portugal?
    They came via illyrian or alpine ( augustus conquered the alps circa 15BC , the last place in modern italy to become Roman colony ) subjects


    Italy has about 4% ...similar with Spain, Portugal, Germany, Austria, France and Belgium

    check this site out for T ydna ..............I have not checked for more than a year...not sure if maciano updated T ydna

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    @Torzio …maybe you’re confusing threads, the Ardea sample is 100s of years older than Augustus, … maybe R850 went to school with Romulus' kids :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaktikatEMalet View Post
    This means that most T1a found in england now was likely from roman settlement, though it is still rare
    According to torzio T was near Rome prior to Roman empire. So it would have been assimilated and moved with the roman conquests. Does anyone know how common T1a is in spain and portugal?
    They didn't find BA T samples, but it doesn't mean they weren't there.
    Surely more y T were brought to England by Rome and then by the Vikings (VK398 Sweden, Skara).

    Out of 1000s of Ancient samples, only about forty plus are y T, … they’re rare and not easily found, …though we have Neolithics and Iron-Age y T samples, … I assume they were also present in the Bronze-Age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    @Torzio …maybe you’re confusing threads, the Ardea sample is 100s of years older than Augustus, … maybe R850 went to school with Romulus' kids :)

    I keep forgetting about this etruscan from the Rutuli tribe in modern Lazio region

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    I keep forgetting about this etruscan from the Rutuli tribe in modern Lazio region
    Ardea: … “The area was once the main urban center of the Rutuli, a population belonging to the "Latin lineage" … :)

    https://www.science.org/action/downl...ntonio_sm.pdf&

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    They came via illyrian or alpine ( augustus conquered the alps circa 15BC , the last place in modern italy to become Roman colony ) subjects
    Italy has about 4% ...similar with Spain, Portugal, Germany, Austria, France and Belgium
    check this site out for T ydna ..............I have not checked for more than a year...not sure if maciano updated T ydna
    Difficult to link t1a with illyrians, the spread doesnt seem to suggest it. Like salento mentioned t1a is linked to latin people, though etruscan may be possible? T1a doesnt seem like an indo european line and most people say etruscans didnt speak a european language

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaktikatEMalet View Post
    Difficult to link t1a with illyrians, the spread doesnt seem to suggest it. Like salento mentioned t1a is linked to latin people, though etruscan may be possible? T1a doesnt seem like an indo european line and most people say etruscans didnt speak a european language
    not indo-european .............then all its brothers are not as well


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    the only ancient T samples so far in YFull


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    I only see 2 x T ydna in the upcoming celtic paper .....so far

    T1a1-Z709

    T1a1 -Y11151

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    the only ancient T samples so far in YFull

    I asked yfull if they would place the following ancient T

    CL23

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    the 2 x Bulgarian Neolitihic samples from Malek

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    Golden man

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    I only see 2 x T ydna in the upcoming celtic paper .....so far
    T1a1-Z709
    T1a1 -Y11151

    I14837:Result (-33.3% 2 -1 +1): T-Y180921

    I13751:Result (-33.3% 2 -1 +1): T-FGC63786

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    I14837:Result (-33.3% 2 -1 +1): T-Y180921
    I13751:Result (-33.3% 2 -1 +1): T-FGC63786
    … K12b Coordinates.
    … I am not convinced that they are y T
    … I didn't get the y results I expected. :)

    Code:
    I13751_Dodecad_K12b,12.50,0.00,0.99,0.05,36.65,41.95,0.70,0.13,0.00,0.00,5.73,1.29
    I14837_Dodecad_K12b,9.90,0.16,0.76,0.00,39.50,44.35,0.00,0.04,0.27,0.00,4.55,0.48

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    … K12b Coordinates.
    … I am not convinced that they are y T
    … I didn't get the y results I expected. :)

    Code:
    I13751_Dodecad_K12b,12.50,0.00,0.99,0.05,36.65,41.95,0.70,0.13,0.00,0.00,5.73,1.29
    I14837_Dodecad_K12b,9.90,0.16,0.76,0.00,39.50,44.35,0.00,0.04,0.27,0.00,4.55,0.48

    Thats whats the paper states .................what makes you think it is not?

    top one comes from Hittite old capital area of konya Turkey in origin

    second one...is northern Armenian in origin

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    Distance to: Torziok12b
    22.29031853 I13751_Dodecad_K12b
    24.37320455 I14837_Dodecad_K12b

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    questions from the T project team
    I started to order tests for kit 327232 belonging to the Kruger lineage.
    The origin of this Kruger lineage is known to be "Germany", but still is not confirmed which German region. Two possible places are west Germany and Danzig. A third possibility is Bessarabian Germans.

    The line is an ancient line

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    Thats whats the paper states .................what makes you think it is not?
    top one comes from Hittite old capital area of konya Turkey in origin
    second one...is northern Armenian in origin
    You saw the paper and I didn’t, … I won’t challenge it, I’ll go with the flow, but I’m skeptical of it !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    You saw the paper and I didn’t, … I won’t challenge it, I’ll go with the flow, but I’m skeptical of it !
    I doubt these T1a1 as well .............though the Hittites did come from modern armenia/georgia area before entering Anatolia/Asia Minor


    BTW....there is chit chat that our T1a2 in on the north side of the black sea in origin ( proto-scyhians )................I will get more information

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    one-to-one - S vs CL23 and SZ36

    … at 60 SNPs (as for MTA) minimum segments threshold size, … input cM as needed as to get lowest results:


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    1-to-1 … 60 SNPs, cM as needed.

    S vs Latin R850 - Romans R120 and R1543


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    One-to-One … 60 SNPs, cM as needed

    … S vs VK17 and VK398:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    one-to-one - S vs CL23 and SZ36

    … at 60 SNPs (as for MTA) minimum segments threshold size, … input cM as needed as to get lowest results:


    what are we doing here ?

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