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    dod K12b
    Code:
    ALB_Mdv:I14622_y-T1a2b1_mt-H11a,5.50,0.00,3.83,0.00,27.98,21.55,0.57,0.05,8.73,0.00,31.43,0.36
    ARM_Karashamb_LBA:I19345_y-T1a1a1b2b_mt-J1d6,24.77,0.00,0.00,0.01,6.82,17.69,1.57,0.00,7.02,0.00,41.83,0.28
    GRC_Kastrouli_Anc:I17962_y-T1a2b1_mt-U8b1b,0.06,0.00,3.38,0.00,34.64,9.52,0.00,0.00,13.96,0.00,38.41,0.03
    GRC_Marathon_Rom:I7833_y-T1a2b1a_mt-H,10.29,0.00,1.72,1.05,19.47,7.73,0.00,0.21,17.41,0.01,41.68,0.42
    TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Stratonikeia_Byz:I20143_y-T1a2_mt-J1b3b1,12.52,0.66,2.52,0.00,22.00,3.34,0.00,0.00,15.70,0.00,42.39,0.88
    TUR_BlackSea_Samsun_Anc_A:I4530_y-T1a2b1a1_mt-U3a2a1,8.14,0.00,1.51,0.00,23.12,6.78,0.00,0.00,15.66,0.48,43.92,0.38
    TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A:I14799_y-T1a2b1a1_mt-I1,8.08,0.00,0.00,0.00,24.57,5.51,0.00,0.00,16.85,0.78,44.05,0.16
    TUR_SE_Kilis_EBA_A:I14797_y-T1a1a_mt-N2a,9.86,0.39,3.08,0.00,13.28,0.00,0.00,0.56,21.37,0.92,50.55,0.00
    TUR_SE_Kilis_MBA:I14788_y-T1a1a1_mt-K1a15,11.56,0.00,1.79,0.00,11.74,1.59,0.00,0.78,25.53,0.07,46.80,0.14
    TUR_SE_Şırnak_BA:I4615_y-T1a2_mt-N1,12.32,0.00,2.21,2.29,11.88,0.00,0.97,0.07,20.42,0.00,49.26,0.57
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    all very far from myself

    Distance to: Torziok12b
    15.05875825 ALB_Mdv:I14622_y-T1a2b1_mt-H11a
    27.57585538 GRC_Kastrouli_Anc:I17962_y-T1a2b1_mt-U8b1b
    35.07276294 TUR_BlackSea_Samsun_Anc_A:I4530_y-T1a2b1a1_mt-U3a2a1
    35.28608649 GRC_Marathon_Rom:I7833_y-T1a2b1a_mt-H
    35.82466469 TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A:I14799_y-T1a2b1a1_mt-I1
    37.16133071 TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Stratonikeia_Byz:I20143_y-T1a2_mt-J1b3b1
    41.24376438 ARM_Karashamb_LBA:I19345_y-T1a1a1b2b_mt-J1d6
    48.36993488 TUR_SE_Kilis_MBA:I14788_y-T1a1a1_mt-K1a15
    48.93004087 TUR_SE_Şırnak_BA:I4615_y-T1a2_mt-N1
    49.08648185 TUR_SE_Kilis_EBA_A:I14797_y-T1a1a_mt-N2a
    Fathers mtdna ...... T2b17
    Grandfather paternal mtdna ... T1a1e
    Sons mtdna ...... K1a4p
    Mothers line ..... R1b-S8172
    Grandmother paternal side ... I1-CTS6397
    Wife paternal line ..... R1a-PF6155

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    Distance to: S_Dod_K12b
    6.71502792 ALB_Mdv:I14622_y-T1a2b1_mt-H11a
    13.05905816 GRC_Kastrouli_Anc:I17962_y-T1a2b1_mt-U8b1b
    15.27089716 TUR_BlackSea_Samsun_Anc_A:I4530_y-T1a2b1a1_mt-U3a2a1
    15.69188644 GRC_Marathon_Rom:I7833_y-T1a2b1a_mt-H
    16.35741422 TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A:I14799_y-T1a2b1a1_mt-I1
    18.29612801 TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Stratonikeia_Byz:I20143_y-T1a2_mt-J1b3b1
    29.02033770 TUR_SE_Kilis_MBA:I14788_y-T1a1a1_mt-K1a15
    29.16227872 TUR_SE_Kilis_EBA_A:I14797_y-T1a1a_mt-N2a
    29.29489205 ARM_Karashamb_LBA:I19345_y-T1a1a1b2b_mt-J1d6
    29.31824176 TUR_SE_Şırnak_BA:I4615_y-T1a2_mt-N1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    Distance to: S_Dod_K12b
    6.71502792 ALB_Mdv:I14622_y-T1a2b1_mt-H11a
    13.05905816 GRC_Kastrouli_Anc:I17962_y-T1a2b1_mt-U8b1b
    15.27089716 TUR_BlackSea_Samsun_Anc_A:I4530_y-T1a2b1a1_mt-U3a2a1
    15.69188644 GRC_Marathon_Rom:I7833_y-T1a2b1a_mt-H
    16.35741422 TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A:I14799_y-T1a2b1a1_mt-I1
    18.29612801 TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Stratonikeia_Byz:I20143_y-T1a2_mt-J1b3b1
    29.02033770 TUR_SE_Kilis_MBA:I14788_y-T1a1a1_mt-K1a15
    29.16227872 TUR_SE_Kilis_EBA_A:I14797_y-T1a1a_mt-N2a
    29.29489205 ARM_Karashamb_LBA:I19345_y-T1a1a1b2b_mt-J1d6
    29.31824176 TUR_SE_Şırnak_BA:I4615_y-T1a2_mt-N1
    what is this all about ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    what is this all about ?
    y Ts Southern Arc samples ... S aka Salento, ... me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    y Ts Southern Arc samples ... S aka Salento, ... me.

    ok

    who did test with ............just ftdna?

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    ok
    who did test with ............just ftdna?
    … Those 10 Y T samples are from Lazaridis et al. Science 2022 !

    I tested Y and mtDNA of some of those samples too:






    https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/...ronzeAge_1.pdf

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    ID Date mean in BP Date standard deviation in BP Full Date (95.4% CI) Analysis_Label Locality Country Lat. Long. Y-DNA mtDNA
    I20143 975 188 650-1300 CE TUR_Aegean_Muğla_Stratonikeia_Byz Stratonikeia-West Church (Aegean, Muğla, Yatağan) Turkey 37.3 28.03 T-L131 J1b3b1
    I4615 4991 73 3263-2925 calBCE (4415±20 BP, PSUAMS-3063) TUR_SE_Şırnak_BA Tatika (Southeast, Şırnak, Güçlükonak, Koçtepe köyü) Turkey 37.5432 41.8662 T-L131 N1
    I14622 1121 36 773-885 calCE (1205±20 BP, PSUAMS-7198) ALB_Mdv Kënetë (Norteastern, Kukes District) Albania 42.036944 20.397222 T-FGC47678 H11a
    I17962 2594 67 773-544 calBCE (2500±20 BP, PSUAMS-7825) GRC_Kastrouli_Anc Kastrouli (Desfina, Phokis, near Delphi) Greece 38.399083 22.575 T-S27463 U8b1b
    I7833 1610 47 252-412 calCE (1715±25 BP, PSUAMS-3469) GRC_Marathon_Rom Vranas Marathon Greece 38.122207 23.946392 T-CTS3767 H
    I14799 1575 14 350-400 CE TUR_Marmara_İznik_Basilica_RomByz_A Basilica (Marmara, Iznik) Turkey 40.42 29.71 T-CTS9984 I1
    I4530 1648 34 241-362 calCE (1755±20 BP, PSUAMS-4141) TUR_BlackSea_Samsun_Anc_A Cedit, Basarabya (Black Sea, Samsun, llkadım) Turkey 41.313 36.33 T-CTS8489 U3a2a1

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    … is I17962 (773-544 calBCE) Mycenaean or Ancient Greek? … Maybe at the edge of both?
    He’s very close to the Mycenaeans.


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    23mofang (a company based in Chengdu, Sichuan,) has two members of T-PH110/T-PH196: a Mr. Hu 胡 from Changchun, Jilin and a Mr. Ma 馬 from Linxia Hui Autonomous Prefecture, Gansu.

    23mofang currently estimates the TMRCA of T-PH110/T-PH196 to be a whopping 28,210 ybp (compared to an estimated TMRCA of 31,840 ybp for the entire haplogroup T-M184 and an estimated TMRCA of 19,260 ybp for T-L206).

    T-M184 split into T1a1, T1a2, T1a3 ..........13500ybp , south of Baku on the Caspian Sea

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    SB696 ... antisemitic violence victim - 6th Feb 1190 AD - Norwich UK - y T1a1a - mt U6a1b1b

    Code:
    SB696_Dod_K12b_Norwich-UK_1190-AD_y-T1a1a_mt-U6a1b1b,4.20,0.00,7.03,0.00,28.76,6.10,2.68,1.08,16.33,0.54,32.77,0.51
    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/vi...223?show=reads

    https://www.cell.com/current-biology...822(22)01355-0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    … is I17962 (773-544 calBCE) Mycenaean or Ancient Greek? … Maybe at the edge of both?
    He’s very close to the Mycenaeans.
    According to the new study, the Mycenaean-like genetic profile (minority Yamnaya-Minoan substratum) was pervasive in the region including some samples in Bulgaria. Perhaps also in south Italy according to my analysis. Which means it could be an ancestry that spans multiple cultures. Sort of like how modern South Italians and Greeks share genetic similarities but have significant differences in culture (language, religion)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    … is I17962 (773-544 calBCE) Mycenaean or Ancient Greek? … Maybe at the edge of both?
    He’s very close to the Mycenaeans.

    Is his best match, the Olalde sample, the Greek from the trading post in Northeast Spain?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    y Ts Southern Arc samples ... S aka Salento, ... me.

    we are 9 points apart in our admixture results...................do you remember our STR differences ?.......was it 6 or more ?

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    @Jovialis ... Thanks :)
    @Torzio ... I don't know.
    @Angela ... I8215 : 746-415 calBCE - mtDNA HV11 - Girona, Empuries, necropolis Centre de Visitants, Spain.

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    ... with Dodecad Globe 13 I17962 is closer to the Myceneans, ... Olalde I8215 is 4th .

    Distance to: GRC_Kastrouli_Anc:I17962
    1.66784292 GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA:I13514
    2.51071703 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I20184
    3.07468698 GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA:I13506_d
    3.09870941 I8215:I8215
    3.77253231 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I20180
    3.84854518 BGR_RomByz:I18792
    4.52581484 GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA:I13579
    4.65062361 GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA:I13516
    4.65791799 GRC_Mycenaean_Palace_of_Nestor_BA:I13518
    4.82399212 ASH068:ASH068
    4.95284767 I12220:I12220
    5.01447904 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I20186
    5.38526694 GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA:I15582
    5.44192980 Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese_ :I9010
    5.49989091 BGR_Diamandievo_IA:I19481
    5.60134805 I10366:I10366
    5.65023008 Bronze_Age_Mycenaean_Galatas_Apatheia_Peloponnese_ :I9041
    5.65164578 GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA:I13578
    5.72441263 GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA:I15571
    5.73365503 GRC_Mycenaean_Attica_BA:I16709
    5.92776518 GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA:I13428
    6.26365708 I8208:I8208
    6.31040411 GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA:I13532
    6.82116559 _Bulgaria_IA_:I5769
    7.03256710 GRC_Mycenaean_Kastrouli_BA:I13577

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    Wow! that is extraordinary!

    Would you be able to re-process the modern academic samples in G13 format? I know it is asking for much, but it would be very much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jovialis View Post
    Wow! that is extraordinary!

    Would you be able to re-process the modern academic samples in G13 format? I know it is asking for much, but it would be very much appreciated.
    Yes, … It will be a new project :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    we are 9 points apart in our admixture results...................do you remember our STR differences ?.......was it 6 or more ?

    we have a difference of 18 in Y111 ....................about 15%

    so we knew each other early iron-age

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    we have a difference of 18 in Y111 ....................about 15%
    so we knew each other early iron-age
    You have a memory of steel, … I don't remember much about my time in the Iron-Age., … I should have kept a diary. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salento View Post
    You have a memory of steel, … I don't remember much about my time in the Iron-Age., … I should have kept a diary. lol
    aah memories, ...........hunting Boars and Stags

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