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    What's a dys, all I know Is I'm T-PF7443. For anyone who's interested btw, here's the genetic composition of L'aquila, btw how do I figure out what my DYS is?



    Haplogroup composition of L'Aquila:


    21% T
    14% G2a
    14% R1b1a2a1a2
    10% L
    10% E-V13
    10% J2a
    7% R1b1a2
    3.5% I2b1
    3.5% J1e
    3.5% R1a
    3.5% R1b1a2a1a
    3.5% R1b1a2a1a1"
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamo View Post
    What's a dys, all I know Is I'm T-PF7443. For anyone who's interested btw, here's the genetic composition of L'aquila, btw how do I figure out what my DYS is?



    Haplogroup composition of L'Aquila:


    21% T
    14% G2a
    14% R1b1a2a1a2
    10% L
    10% E-V13
    10% J2a
    7% R1b1a2
    3.5% I2b1
    3.5% J1e
    3.5% R1a
    3.5% R1b1a2a1a
    3.5% R1b1a2a1a1"
    where you get the numbers from?..........because the guy i told you just sent me an email and he is a 23andme project person.
    he stated these numbers as above, plus


    The Sabine tribe could belong mostly to haplogroup T

    I think he is from Ibiza or from galicia Spain.

    DYS, ....hundred or so numbers like
    DYS393 =13 ..........is a marker with many other markers to distinguish your haplogroup.
    Whoever did your test must have given you something

    Mythology stated that Sabines are laecomenians people which means Dorians which means tajiks which means from the pamir mountains ............greeks mythology states the dorians from the Pamir knot replaced the myceneans in 1200BC ..............Believe what you want .......I find mythology to much fantasy
    Last edited by zanipolo; 14-06-13 at 23:47.
    Father's Mtdna H95a1
    Grandfather Mtdna T2b24
    Great Grandfather Mtdna T1a1e
    GMother paternal side YDna R1b-S8172
    Mother's YDna R1a-Z282

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    Genographic project did, they did not give me DYS whatever that is. Where can I find my DYS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamo View Post
    Genographic project did, they did not give me DYS whatever that is. Where can I find my DYS?
    they should give it to you or something.............how else did they predict your type

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    They basically just said I'm T-M70+ and within it I'm L299+ and classed me as T-PF7443... They ave me nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamo View Post
    They basically just said I'm T-M70+ and within it I'm L299+ and classed me as T-PF7443... They ave me nothing else.
    then log in to Nat-geno site and if you have no log account , email them for one since you are a testee.

    then IF you want you can transfer your results to FTDNA for free ( i think its still free )


    when did you do this test?

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    A while ago, I transferred my results then forgot my code and password .... And the transfer didn't really work ..

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    My results according to ftdna :

    HAPLOGROUP INFOYour Haplogroup Tests Taken
    T-M70 : V9+ V205+ V189+ V186+ PF970+ P187+ P166+ P160+ P159+ P158+ P151+ P148+ P146+ P145+ P141+ P14+ P138+ P136+ P135+ P132+ P131+ P128+ M94+ M89+ M70+ M42+ M294+ M272+ M168+ M139+ L566+ L498+ L490+ L470+ L468+ L455+ L454+ L453+ L350+ L299+ L298+ L208+ L162+ L16+ L15+ L132+ F1046+ CTS8004+ CTS3654+ CTS11556+

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    Then they tell me some junk about further testing to see which subgroup I am. Now its currently trying to charge me some 500$ to take a test to see which one of the subclades I am...can anyone help me better? Lol what do the above results mean.... I see whee M-70+ starts then I don't get it

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamo View Post
    Then they tell me some junk about further testing to see which subgroup I am. Now its currently trying to charge me some 500$ to take a test to see which one of the subclades I am...can anyone help me better? Lol what do the above results mean.... I see whee M-70+ starts then I don't get it
    I am no expert, but you look like being the old marker of Pages00002 , which is now part of

    T1a1a L208/Page2, L905

    write to either of these guys and explain you joined FTDNA but forgot ID, they will help




    from their site
    Results are in for Deep Clade Tests and most clusters have been confirmed as either L208+ (aka PAGES00002) and P77-, or P77+.
    so Pages00002 is now called L208+ , which you have.

    The $500 that someone asked for was for a WTY to be done (walk the Y ), dont do anything until you here from them. You could have a unique line like mine and they will pay for ONE SNP test with FTDNA that they choose for you. They did this for me, that is tested L446 before it came out "officially"


    from M-184 site
    T1a1a (L208/Page2, L905) Mostly found in western Europe, eastern Anatolia, Iran, Arabian Peninusla, Upper Egypt and Horn of Africa. Some spots in western Morocco, Sahrawis and Canarias.

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    L208+ in Italy

    60% of T in Campania
    53% of T in Molise, Abruzzo and Romagna
    14% of T in Calabria
    .................................
    elsewhere the majority noted as L208+ is in Armenia and southern England. Looks like a eastern anatolian starting point
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    Is it P77+ or p77- I can't tell, but somehow my code looks very similar to other P77+ people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamo View Post
    Is it P77+ or p77- I can't tell, but somehow my code looks very similar to other P77+ people.
    you do not have this P77 as its not tested in your results, you have the one below L208+ ( which was called Page00002 before)

    + means tested and confirmed positive

    - means tested and not of this mark

    call, the guys i mentioned and see if they will test you for P77

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    Yeah but then I have 2 test M320, P77 and like 7 others to see which one i am costing me like 300$

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamo View Post
    Yeah but then I have 2 test M320, P77 and like 7 others to see which one i am costing me like 300$
    M320 is the old T1 mark which ended up being a private marker. a single person ...unique

    your line is the old T2 , which has L208, P77 etc

    my line is the old T3, which is L131 line


    so, T1 became private

    T2 became T1a1 group

    and T3 became T1a2 group


    check ISOGG t group and you do not need to do all the SNP once you are confirmed in one line ,

    as an example I do not do P322 because it does not belong to my line

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    Basically I know I'm T1a1 and within it I'm T1a1a but now the question is wether in T1a1a1 (P77) or T1a1a2 (P321) , and even then I have virtually no information on these two subgroups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamo View Post
    Basically I know I'm T1a1 and within it I'm T1a1a but now the question is wether in T1a1a1 (P77) or T1a1a2 (P321) , and even then I have virtually no information on these two subgroups.
    you only have 1 option ...to do a P77 test...........if you are negative, then you remain at L208+
    if you are positive for P77 then there are 2 branches only

    P321 which is T1a1a1 ...........then later you can do P317 test

    or

    do a Z709 test and you remain at T1a1a1* and wait for this branch to expand.

    ....but you can take a risk and do the P321 test first which bypasses P77, but if you are negative result then you still need to do the P77 test...if you are postive then you are positive in P77

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    I saw several individuals on genographic 2.0 classed under Z709, I don't know what it is

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    So basically I'm somehow kurdish or Iraqi Jewish as this is the highest % areas of P-77, also the Quaish tribe of Saudi Arabians Nejd/Hejaz regions have quite some P-77, do you have any more info on P-77?

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    [QUOTE=adamo;409992]What's a dys, all I know Is I'm T-PF7443. For anyone who's interested btw, here's the genetic composition of L'aquila, btw how do I figure out what my DYS is?



    Haplogroup composition of L'Aquila:


    21% T
    14% G2a
    14% R1b1a2a1a2
    10% L
    10% E-V13
    10% J2a
    7% R1b1a2
    3.5% I2b1
    3.5% J1e
    3.5% R1a
    3.5% R1b1a2a1a
    3.5% R1b1a2a1a1"[/QUOTE
    The way the sampling is carried out is very misleading. The population of Italy should be divided in areas with equal number of populations, and out of them should be extracted the same sample size. I am sure the genetists have taken statistics at school but they should tell us, how they did it. People like me are very sensitive in mathematical way the study was carried. Othewise the generalisations are misleading. I have seen the Greek studies and they will tell you how the Egean Islands population Cluster genetically and then they average it out with the rest of the areas to come with national numbers. Bot when you see it closely, Egean Island population is 150 000 you cant average it out with 7 milion that live in south, even if the sample size is the same. South and Central Italy are predominntly middle Eastern extraction. I never thought about it.

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    I already anticipate zanipolo will ignore your post and continue on the correct subject probably : ) but thank you for your input albanopolis

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamo View Post
    I saw several individuals on genographic 2.0 classed under Z709, I don't know what it is
    Z709 is only a few months old and IMO is west-med. ( Iberia -Italy ) its found in central and south american old spanish lands.

    You are ATM a L208+ which is eastern anatolia .............either Armenian or Kurdish....maybe even Azeri.
    You do not seem to have south-west asian numbers ( i.e saudi-arabia or Jordan areas )

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamo View Post
    So basically I'm somehow kurdish or Iraqi Jewish as this is the highest % areas of P-77, also the Quaish tribe of Saudi Arabians Nejd/Hejaz regions have quite some P-77, do you have any more info on P-77?
    you are not P77 because you have not been tested for it

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    What would south-west Asian numbers be? I guess we can confirm I'm Fertile Crescent kurdish/Iraqi type T? But even then I need to further test to find out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamo View Post
    What would south-west Asian numbers be? I guess we can confirm I'm Fertile Crescent kurdish/Iraqi type T? But even then I need to further test to find out...
    talks to the guys I linked, I cannot help anymore, I do not know enough

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