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    Problem of Europeans is that you guys do not act together and often shoved a stick in the wheels of each other. I read once that even in European space agency exist a some part of a feud between the French and German. This is reflected in the results. For example 10 years ago Galileo and Glonass were on the same stage of development, today Glonass is almost ready while Galileo project almost did not move.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...73A1S320110411

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anton, Bear's den View Post
    Problem of Europeans is that you guys do not act together and often shoved a stick in the wheels of each other. I read once that even in European space agency exist a some part of a feud between the French and German. This is reflected in the results. For example 10 years ago Galileo and Glonass were on the same stage of development, today Glonass is almost ready while Galileo project almost did not move.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...73A1S320110411
    Well, Galileo is planned to be used in 2013-2014.
    It's a civil system, that is more precise than GPS or Glonass.
    At least Europe will be independent from USA and Russia.

    And of course the Americans don't like it, and call it a "loser" project.
    Just like the former Concorde project I guess..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinaert View Post
    Well, Galileo is planned to be used in 2013-2014.
    It's a civil system, that is more precise than GPS or Glonass.
    At least Europe will be independent from USA and Russia.

    And of course the Americans don't like it, and call it a "loser" project.
    Just like the former Concorde project I guess..
    Any satellite systems primarily for military, secondary for civilian application. Even internet started as military programm of Pentagon. In civilian sphere is possible to use several satellite systems at the same time in devices for greater accuracy. In Russia nobody plans to abandon from GPS just because it's American. Contrary, in the civilian sphere will be used both.

    Concorde was a great plane, why the it was canceled?

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    http://www.nabucco-pipeline.com/port...40A8C002017939

    the new time line of nabucco.

    i insist on the idea that it is EU project, although it is also backed up by US. current supporters are, mainly, germany and france.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabucco_pipeline

    it is simple and easy, they want alternative gasline for their machine.

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    Concorde was a great plane, why the it was canceled?
    -too expensive
    -too polluting
    -too old

    For Europe, "Airbus" is the futur...

    And "Ariane" isn't only French, this is an European collaboration...

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian View Post
    http://www.nabucco-pipeline.com/port...40A8C002017939

    the new time line of nabucco.

    i insist on the idea that it is EU project, although it is also backed up by US. current supporters are, mainly, germany and france.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabucco_pipeline

    it is simple and easy, they want alternative gasline for their machine.

    Nabuco is over, it was just a political pipeline so to stop south stream project,
    my cousin was at Greece Turkey fiesta of Nabuco and worked for global development Banks,
    Nabuco is a myth,
    Turkey in Future will keep all Azerbaizan stock,
    in Greece they laugh about Nabuco,
    So many money to transport what?
    simply modern engineers reject it,
    It has a huge cost, and the quantities are little,
    a few m3 of Gas and oil?

    well the future is a new project soon you will learn about it,
    when Greek crisis is over, or a war starts in Balkans,
    Simply Greeks are not Selling their Gas,
    Turkey is pressing Greeks and has casus beli in 12 miles zone,
    that is why Greeks Germans and IMF are in mood to 'fight'

    Not even 1 meter of Nabuco pipe line is set in Greece, while South Stream is almost finished,

    Simply the connection among Greece and Turkey will be just to secure the xtra demands at a rush hour, or an alternate pipeline,
    Turkey is more to grow industrial, and will absorve all Azerbaizan oil and gas,

    if Greeks manage to kick away the Harvant politicians,
    last votes had 45% no vote and 50% total white, bad and non vote,
    then a new project Israel Cyprus Crete Greece Albani project will be.

    Nabuco was a project of USA to stop Gazprom growing,
    Gazprom can give cheap and enough gas,
    while Nabuco dynamic is less at least 80-90% and 15% more expensive,

    in a few years Turkey and Greece must find a treaty about Lycaonia oil and Gas,
    Soon south Turkey will be the rich area of Turks,
    the quantities that engineers are talking about are huge,

    Soon Lycaonia Cilikia (Atalleia-Antalya, Myrsina-Mersin) will be the rich areas of Turks,


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_HnhXQE8dE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8M-r...eature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dozs...eature=related

    things are simple,

    Germans as old allies with Turks, are pushing a crisis in Greeks,

    Turkey if 12 miles naval zone will be expand will lose billions of barels,
    so all Bankers etc are pushing Greeks,

    watch in 3rd video the oil among Bulgaria and Turkey,

    there are huge quantities, but very expansive to drill them, cause are they are very deep.


    Nabuco is not even 1% of these,
    South stream passes from the central of Pontus eye area,

    that is an old story known from 1968 whaen dictators were in Greece,simply if the oil stays in lands,then south Italy ALbania, Bulgaria Greece Turkey Cyprus Israel., can rebuild their economy and industrial eras return,

    in Italy they know about that, but the northens are waiting to see,if they all agree to drill them then industrialization will move from North Italy to south, and south East Europe will overpass the north west Industrial,
    remember hora, piri reis, etc ships were they search for oil????
    why?
    why turks hired a Norwegian ship to search Aeagean, and we had a 2 day warm time???


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