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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post






    Where? does it say such things?
    in fact in the area was the Orpheus Pieroi the Thracian city Λειβηθρα,

    Pigi Athenas Πηγη Αθηνας
    is the Neolithic cemetery,
    and later one of the most North and isolated Mycenean dwellings
    Maybe the Neolithic tombs for you are Illyrian?
    Now what? Illyrians were not bronze age? but Neolithic farmers or HG?




    I am very disapointed.

    Read the article....Middle to late Bronze Age (1620-1500 B.C) tumulus burial before Mycenaean expansion.... In my opinion tumulus burial in general are related to Illyrians in Macedonia and Epirus during middle and late Bronze Age. So what petrifies you here ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    Simply Ignorance
    You are lost of words simply as that. Katharevousan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    Possible the Balts were illyrians too, or the Thracians?
    cause Thracian have -as also


    BTW

    why Albanian does not have -as?
    but -i
    Ducagin- i
    Kelmend-i
    etc
    Because Albanians didn't started the so called process 'Katharevousa'.
    Languages change , you are supposed to know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piro Ilir View Post
    From modern Y-dna studies, seems that Phrygians and Armenians, whom both migrated in Anatolia from Balkans have no relations with ancient Mycenaeans and later Hellenes. Phrygians and Armenians were R1b-Z2103 people.

    I have read that the closest Albanian linguistic relative was Armenian language.






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    come on guys be serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blevins13 View Post
    Tumulus burial (generally accepted as marker of Illyrians) in Macedonia close to Mount Olympus before Mycenaean expansion.
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    Tumulus graves were part of most of ancient IE tribes, Mycenaean and Illyrian including.
    In my opinion, the region of Pieria during the bronze age wasn't Illyrian. It was Tracian, Mycenaean, or something else. Illyrians settled there at the end of the bronze age, circa 1200bce. Many of them became Hellenised or Hellenic, including Macedonians, Mollosians, etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
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    What about the tumulus in Pigi Athenas Πηγη Αθηνας, did they come from Andromeda too? It so fun to see you bounce around like a windup toy trying to cover the obvious “tumulus burials” a sign of Illyrians.


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    Quote Originally Posted by blevins13 View Post
    Read the article....Middle to late Bronze Age (1620-1500 B.C) tumulus burial before Mycenaean expansion.... In my opinion tumulus burial in general are related to Illyrians in Macedonia and Epirus during middle and late Bronze Age. So what petrifies you here ?


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    So In your opinion,
    THE LINK YOU POST US DOES NOT SAY SOMETHING AS YOUR CLAIMS,
    BUT YOU LINK IT, WITH YOUR OPINION THAT SAY SUCH, right?


    I guess you never been there,
    you have nothing to compare etc etc
    and in fact you do not know even which tomb you refferering.





    btw
    I was petrified when I read your fantastic evidences (made by your opinion)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piro Ilir View Post
    Tumulus graves were part of most of ancient IE tribes, Mycenaean and Illyrian including.
    In my opinion, the region of Pieria during the bronze age wasn't Illyrian. It was Tracian, Mycenaean, or something else. Illyrians settled there at the end of the bronze age, circa 1200bce. Many of them became Hellenised or Hellenic, including Macedonians, Mollosians, etc etc.
    Mycenaean(Seima- Turbino culture) vs Illyrians (Kurgan Culture). So no, at that time only Illyrians used tumulus in the Balkans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
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    come on guys be serious.
    Modern Arvanites claim that they are Greeks, but any serious scholar acknowledged them as ethnically, Tosk Alban people.
    Tosks are ethnic Albanians whom were part of the Hellenic cultural world area. Many of them claim as being Greek. But certainly they aren't. They are just an ethnic Albanian subgroup.
    With Macedonians was the same. It would be like today being an American

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    Quote Originally Posted by blevins13 View Post
    Mycenaean(Seima- Turbino culture) vs Illyrians (Kurgan Culture). So no, at that time only Illyrians used tumulus in the Balkans.


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    Nice joke
    Did you hear the other joke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piro Ilir View Post
    Modern Arvanites claim that they are Greeks, but any serious scholar acknowledged them as ethnically, Tosk Alban people.
    Tosks are ethnic Albanians whom were part of the Hellenic cultural world area. Many of them claim as being Greek. But certainly they aren't. They are just an ethnic Albanian subgroup.
    With Macedonians was the same. It would be like today being an American
    Whatever,
    yeah I am huppy, I just remember something, lets post it,

    now we left Illyrians and Makedonians
    and went to modern Albanians who are not Illyrian speakers
    and Modern Greeks

    What is next?
    will you remember to eat?


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    From Argos fled to the country of the Illyrians three brothers of the descendants of Temenus, Gauanes, Aeropus, and Perdiccas; and passing over Illyria from the mountains they came into the upper parts of Macedonia to the city of Lebaia."

    "Now that these descendants of Perdiccas are Greeks, as they themselves say, I myself chance to know and will prove it in the later part of my history."
    -Herodotus.

    Herodotus clearly tries to attach the Macedonian Royal dynasty to the Hellenic nation. Nevertheless, the region where these four brothers settled was Illyrian. This is obviously politics. It was crucial for ancient rulers of barbarian Illyrian descent to claim Hellenic inheritance.
    Even today the southern Albanians use pejorative vocabulary against North Albanians. Generally calling them , barbarian.

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    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...WFQcXSnN0eh4AT

    Alexander I of Macedon, was the Macedonian king or ruler so called 'The philhellene'. He attached the Macedonian Illyrian tribe into the important Hellenic nation. He gave important help to the Greeks against their Persian foes. Basically, this ruler invented the fake political myth of Argead dynasty which was of Hellenic descent from Argos. It was his work which allowed the Macedonian nobility to participate at the Olympic games.
    Everything claimed by Herodotus is merely politics

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Erigon_Valley


    Erigonoi ending -Gonoi Typical Makedonian Ending

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yetos View Post
    Nice joke
    Did you hear the other joke?
    Yes on this book.... read it. Very funny.
    The Horse, the Wheel, and Language: How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes Shaped the Modern World.
    By David W. Anthony, 2007


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    Quote Originally Posted by Piro Ilir View Post
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...WFQcXSnN0eh4AT

    Alexander I of Macedon, was the Macedonian king or ruler so called 'The philhellene'. He attached the Macedonian Illyrian tribe into the important Hellenic nation. He gave important help to the Greeks against their Persian foes. Basically, this ruler invented the fake political myth of Argead dynasty which was of Hellenic descent from Argos. It was his work which allowed the Macedonian nobility to participate at the Olympic games.
    Everything claimed by Herodotus is merely politics
    Considering that common Macedonians still spoke their native dialect long after Hellenization, why did no one notice that they were in fact Illyrian?

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    @ Blevins

    Until now you told us nothing,
    remember that proto-Cetina is connected with Greeks
    and Thracians were also what you claim,
    while Illyrians were Celtoids
    IN FACT EAST OF OLYMP LIVED THE THRACIANS TRIBE PIEROI OF ORPHEUS, THE NORTHERN MYCENEANS, AND THE HERAKLEIDES which evolute to Makedonians.
    SO YOUR OPINION MEANS NOTHING AND IS JUST ANOTHER SPECULATED SPAM-POST JUST FOR IMPRESSIONS
    YOU POST US A LINK WHICH YOU HAVE NOIT READ IT EVEN YOU





    @ Pirro

    FIRST
    LEARN TO WRITE CORRECT THE NAME OF EPIROS GREEK KING

    SECOND
    Alexander's grandma was Illyrian origin, a typical bargain among kings,
    But read this
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Erigon_Valley
    the hate among Makedonians Brygians included and Illyrians was so big.

    THIRD

    they claim that 3 Makedonians were is up your mind

    read the etymolgy of the names


    100 MAKEDONIAN NAMES ALL HAVE GREEK ETYMOLOGY

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    1. ALEXANDROS m Ancient Greek (ALEXANDER Latinized)
    Pronounced: al-eg-ZAN-dur
    From the Greek name Alexandros, which meant ‘defending men’ from Greek alexein ‘to defend, protect, help’ and aner ‘man’ (genitive andros). Alexander the Great, King of Macedon, is the most famous bearer of this name. In the 4th century BC he built a huge empire out of Greece, Egypt, Persia, and parts of India. The name was borne by five kings of Macedon.

    2. PHILIPPOS m Ancient Greek (PHILIP Latinized)
    Pronounced: FIL-ip
    From the Greek name Philippos which means ‘friend of horses’, composed of the elements philos ‘friend’ and hippos ‘horse’. The name was borne by five kings of Macedon, including Philip II the father of Alexander the Great.

    3. AEROPOS m Ancient Greek, Greek Mythology
    Male form of Aerope who in Greek mythology was the wife of King Atreus of Mycenae. Aeropos was also the son of Aerope, daughter of Kepheus: ‘Ares, the Tegeans say, mated with Aerope, daughter of Kepheus (king of Tegea), the son of Aleos. She died in giving birth to a child, Aeropos, who clung to his mother even when she was dead, and sucked great abundance of milk from her breasts. Now this took place by the will of Ares.’ (Pausanias 8.44.) The name was borne by two kings of Macedon.

    4. ALKETAS m Ancient Greek (ALCAEUS Latinized)
    Pronounced: al-SEE-us
    Derived from Greek alke meaning ‘strength’. This was the name of a 7th-century BC lyric poet from the island of Lesbos.

    5. AMYNTAS m Ancient Greek
    Derived from Greek amyntor meaning ‘defender’. The name was borne by three kings of Macedon.

    6. ANTIGONOS m Ancient Greek (ANTIGONUS Latinized)
    Pronounced: an-TIG-o-nus
    Means ‘like the ancestor’ from Greek anti ‘like’ and goneus ‘ancestor’. This was the name of one of Alexander the Great’s generals. After Alexander died, he took control of most of Asia Minor. He was known as Antigonus ‘Monophthalmos’ (‘the One-Eyed’). Antigonos II (ruled 277-239 BC) was known as ‘Gonatos’ (‘knee, kneel’).

    7. ANTIPATROS m Ancient Greek (ANTIPATER Latinized)
    Pronounced: an-TI-pa-tur
    From the Greek name Antipatros, which meant ‘like the father’ from Greek anti ‘like’ and pater ‘father’. This was the name of an officer of Alexander the Great, who became the regent of Macedon during Alexander’s absence.

    8. ARCHELAOS m Ancient Greek (ARCHELAUS Latinized)
    Pronounced: ar-kee-LAY-us
    Latinized form of the Greek name Archelaos, which meant ‘master of the people’ from arche ‘master’ and laos ‘people’. It was also the name of the 7th Spartan king who came in the throne of Sparti in 886 BC, long before the establishment of the Macedonian state.

    9. ARGAIOS m Greek Mythology (ARGUS Latinized)
    Derived from Greek argos meaning ‘glistening, shining’. In Greek myth this name belongs to both the man who built the Argo and a man with a hundred eyes. The name was borne by three kings of Macedon.

    10. DEMETRIOS m Ancient Greek (DEMETRIUS Latinized)
    Latin form of the Greek name Demetrios, which was derived from the name of the Greek goddess Demeter. Kings of Macedon and the Seleucid kingdom have had this name. Demetrios I (ruled 309-301 BC) was known as ‘Poliorketes’ (the ‘Beseiger’).

    11. KARANOS m Ancient Greek (CARANUS Latinized)
    Derived from the archaic Greek word ‘koiranos’ or ‘karanon”, meaning ‘ruler’, ‘leader’ or ‘king’. Both words stem from the same archaic Doric root ‘kara’ meaning head, hence leader, royal master. The word ‘koiranos’ already had the meaning of ruler or king in Homer. Karanos is the name of the founder of the Argead dynasty of the Kings of Macedon.

    12. KASSANDROS m Greek Mythology (CASSANDER Latinized)
    Pronounced: ka-SAN-dros
    Possibly means ‘shining upon man’, derived from Greek kekasmai ‘to shine’ and aner ‘man’ (genitive andros). In Greek myth Cassandra was a Trojan princess, the daughter of Priam and Hecuba. She was given the gift of prophecy by Apollo, but when she spurned his advances he cursed her so nobody would believe her prophecies. The name of a king of Macedon.

    13. KOINOS m Ancient Greek
    Derived from Greek koinos meaning ‘usual, common’. An Argead king of Macedon in the 8th century BC.

    14. LYSIMACHOS m Ancient Greek (LYSIMACHUS Latinized)
    Means ‘a loosening of battle’ from Greek lysis ‘a release, loosening’ and mache ‘battle’. This was the name of one of Alexander the Great’s generals. After Alexander’s death Lysimachus took control of Thrace.

    15. SELEUKOS m Ancient Greek (SELEUCUS Latinized)
    Means ‘to be light’, ‘to be white’, derived from the Greek word leukos meaning ‘white, bright’. This was the name of one of Alexander’s generals that claimed most of Asia and founded the Seleucid dynasty after the death of Alexander in Babylon.

    16. ARRIDHAIOS m Ancient Greek
    Son of Philip II and later king of Macedon. The greek etymology is Ari (= much) + adj Daios (= terrifying). Its full meaning is “too terrifying”. Its Aeolian type is Arribaeos.

    17. ORESTES m Greek Mythology
    Pronounced: o-RES-teez
    Derived from Greek orestais meaning ‘of the mountains’. In Greek myth he was the son of Agamemnon. He killed his mother Clytemnestra after she killed his father. The name of a king of Macedon (ruled 399-396 BC).

    18. PAUSANIAS m Ancient Greek
    King of Macedon in 393 BC. Pausanias was also the name of the Spartan king at the Battle of Plataea in 479 BC, and the name of the Greek traveller, geographer and writer whose most famous work is ‘Description of Greece’, and also the name of the man who assassinated Philip II of Macedon in 336 BC.

    19. PERDIKKAS m Ancient Greek (PERDICCAS Latinized)
    Derived from Greek perdika meaning ‘partridge’. Perdikkas I is presented as founder of the kingdom of Macedon in Herodotus 8.137. The name was borne by three kings of Macedon.

    20. PERSEUS m Greek Mythology
    Pronounced: PUR-see-us
    It derives from Greek verb pertho meaning ‘to destroy, conquer’. Its full meaning is the “conqueror”. Perseus was a hero in Greek legend. He killed Medusa, who was so ugly that anyone who gazed upon her was turned to stone, by looking at her in the reflection of his shield and slaying her in her sleep. The name of a king of Macedon (ruled 179-168 BC).

    21. PTOLEMEOS m Ancient Greek (PTOLEMY Latinized)
    Pronounced: TAWL-e-mee
    Derived from Greek polemeios meaning ‘aggressive’ or ‘warlike’. Ptolemy was the name of several Greco-Egyptian rulers of Egypt, all descendents of Ptolemy I, one of Alexander the Great’s generals. This was also the name of a Greek astronomer. Ptolemy ‘Keraunos’ (ruled 281-279 BC) is named after the lighting bolt thrown by Zeus.

    22. TYRIMMAS m Greek Mythology
    Tyrimmas, an Argead king of Macedon and son of Coenus. Also known as Temenus. In Greek mythology, Temenus was the son of Aristomaches and a great-great grandson of Herakles. He became king of Argos. Tyrimmas was also a man from Epirus and father of Evippe, who consorted with Odysseus (Parthenius of Nicaea, Love Romances, 3.1). Its full meaning is “the one who loves cheese”.

    QUEENS AND ROYAL FAMILY
    23. EURYDIKE f Greek Mythology (EURYDICE Latinized)
    Means ‘wide justice’ from Greek eurys ‘wide’ and dike ‘justice’. In Greek myth she was the wife of Orpheus. Her husband tried to rescue her from Hades, but he failed when he disobeyed the condition that he not look back upon her on their way out. Name of the mother of Philip II of Macedon.

    24. BERENIKE f Ancient Greek (BERENICE Latinized)
    Pronounced: ber-e-NIE-see
    Means ‘bringing victory’ from pherein ‘to bring’ and nike ‘victory’. This name was common among the Ptolemy ruling family of Egypt.

    25. KLEOPATRA f Ancient Greek (CLEOPATRA Latinized), English
    Pronounced: klee-o-PAT-ra
    Means ‘glory of the father’ from Greek kleos ‘glory’ combined with patros ‘of the father’. In the Iliad, the name of the wife of Meleager of Aetolia. This was also the name of queens of Egypt from the Ptolemaic royal family, including Cleopatra VII, the mistress of both Julius Caesar and Mark Antony. After being defeated by Augustus she committed suicide by allowing herself to be bitten by an asp. Also the name of a bride of Philip II of Macedon.

    26. CYNNA f Ancient Greek
    Half-sister of Alexander the great. Her name derives from the adj. of doric dialect Cyna (= tough).

    27. THESSALONIKI f Ancient Greek
    Means ‘victory over the Thessalians’, from the name of the region of Thessaly and niki, meaning ‘victory’. Name of Alexander the Great’s step sister and of the city of Thessaloniki which was named after her in 315 BC.

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    28. PARMENION m ancient Greek
    The most famous General of Philip and Alexander the great. Another famous bearer of this name was the olympic winner Parmenion of Mitiline. His name derives from the name Parmenon + the ending -ion used to note descendancy. It means the “descedant of Parmenon”.

    29. PEUKESTAS m Ancient Greek
    He saved Alexander the Great in India. One of the most known Macedonians. His name derives from Πευκής (= sharp) + the Doric ending -tas. Its full meaning is the “one who is sharp”.

    30. ARISTOPHANES m Ancient Greek
    Derived from the Greek elements aristos ‘best’ and phanes ‘appearing’. The name of one of Alexander the Great’s personal body guard who was present during the murder of Cleitus. (Plutarch, Alexander, ‘The Lives of the Noble Grecians and Romans’). This was also the name of a 5th-century BC Athenian playwright.

    31. KORRAGOS m Ancient Greek
    The Macedonian who challenged into a fight the Olympic winner Dioxippos and lost. His name derives from Koira (= army) + ago (= lead). Korragos has the meaning of “the leader of the army”.

    32. ARISTON m Ancient Greek
    Derived from Greek aristos meaning ‘the best’. The name of a Macedonian officer on campaign with Alexander the Great (Arrian, Anabasis, Book II, 9 and Book III, 11, 14).

    33. KLEITUS m Ancient Greek (CLEITUS Latinized)
    Means ‘calling forth’ or ‘summoned’ in Greek. A phalanx battalion commander in Alexander the Great’s army at the Battle of Hydaspes. Also the name of Alexander’s nurse’s brother, who severed the arm of the Persian Spithridates at the Battle of the Granicus.

    34. HEPHAISTION m Greek Mythology
    Derived from Hephaistos (‘Hephaestus’ Latinized) who in Greek mythology was the god of fire and forging and one of the twelve Olympian deities. Hephaistos in Greek denotes a ‘furnace’ or ‘volcano’. Hephaistion was the companion and closest friend of Alexander the Great. He was also known as ‘Philalexandros’ (‘friend of Alexander’).

    35. HERAKLEIDES m Ancient Greek (HERACLEIDES Latinized)
    Perhaps means ‘key of Hera’ from the name of the goddess Hera combined with Greek kleis ‘key’ or kleidon ‘little key’. The name of two Macedonian soldiers on campaign with Alexander the Great (Arrian, Anabasis, Book I, 2; Book III, 11 and Book VII, 16).

    36. KRATEROS m Ancient Greek (CRATERUS Latinized)
    Derived from Greek adj. Κρατερός (= Powerful). This was the name of one of Alexander the Great’s generals. A friend of Alexander the Great, he was also known as ‘Philobasileus’ (‘friend of the King’).

    37. NEOPTOLEMOS m Greek Mythology (NEOPTOLEMUS Latinized)
    Means ‘new war’, derived from Greek neos ‘new’ and polemos ‘war’. In Greek legend this was the name of the son of Achilles, brought into the Trojan War because it was prophesied the Greeks could not win it unless he was present. After the war he was slain by Orestes because of his marriage to Hermione. Neoptolemos was believed to be the ancestor of Alexander the Great on his mother’s (Olympias’) side (Plutarch). The name of two Macedonian soldiers during Alexander’s campaigns (Arrian, Anabasis, Book I, 6 and Book II, 27).

    38. PHILOTAS m Ancient Greek
    From Greek philotes meaning ‘friendship’. Son of Parmenion and a commander of Alexander the Great’s Companion cavalry.

    39. PHILOXENOS m Ancient Greek
    Meaning ‘friend of strangers’ derived from Greek philos meaning friend and xenos meaning ‘stranger, foreigner’. The name of a Macedonian soldier on campaign with Alexander the Great (Arrian, Anabasis, Book III, 6).

    40. MENELAOS m Greek Mythology (MENELAUS Latinized)
    Means ‘withstanding the people’ from Greek meno ‘to last, to withstand’ and laos ‘the people’. In Greek legend he was a king of Sparta and the husband of Helen. When his wife was taken by Paris, the Greeks besieged the city of Troy in an effort to get her back. After the war Menelaus and Helen settled down to a happy life. Macedonian naval commander during the wars of the Diadochi and brother of Ptolemy Lagos.

    41. LAOMEDON m ancient greek
    Friend from boyhood of Alexander and later Satrap. His names derives from the greek noun laos (λαός = “people” + medon (μέδω = “the one who governs”)

    42. POLYPERCHON Ancient Greek
    Macedonian, Son of Simmias His name derives from the greek word ‘Πολύ’ (=much) + σπέρχω (= rush).

    43. HEGELOCHOS m (HEGELOCHUS Latinized)
    Known as the conspirator. His name derives from the greek verb (ηγέομαι = “walking ahead” + greek noun λόχος = “set up ambush”).

    44. POLEMON m ancient Greek
    From the house of Andromenes. Brother of Attalos. Means in greek “the one who is fighting in war”.

    45. AUTODIKOS m ancient greek
    Somatophylax of Philip III. His name in greek means “the one who takes the law into his (own) hands”

    46. BALAKROS m ancient Greek
    Son of Nicanor. We already know Macedonians usually used a “beta” instead of a “phi” which was used by Atheneans (eg. “belekys” instead of “pelekys”, “balakros” instead of “falakros”). “Falakros” has the meaning of “bald”.

    47. NIKANOR (Nικάνωρ m ancient Greek; Latin: Nicanor) means “victor” – from Nike (Νικη) meaning “victory”.
    Nicanor was the name of the father of Balakras. He was a distinguished Macedonian during the reign of Phillip II.
    Another Nicanor was the son of Parmenion and brother of Philotas. He was a distinguished officer (commander of the Hypaspists) in the service of Alexander the Great. He died of disease in Bactria in 330 BC.

    48. LEONNATOS m ancient Greek
    One of the somatophylakes of Alexander. His name derives from Leon (= Lion) + the root Nat of noun Nator (= dashing). The full meaning is “Dashing like the lion”.

    49. KRITOLAOS m ancient Hellinic
    He was a potter from Pella. His name was discovered in amphoras in Pella during 1980-87. His name derives from Κρίτος (= the chosen) + Λαός (= the people). Its full meaning is “the chosen of the people”.

    50. ZOILOS m ancient Hellinic
    Father of Myleas from Beroia – From zo-e (ΖΩΗ) indicating ‘lively’, ‘vivacious’. Hence the Italian ‘Zoilo’

    51. ZEUXIS m ancient Hellinic
    Name of a Macedonian commander of Lydia in the time of Antigonos III and also the name of a Painter from Heraclea – from ‘zeugnumi’ = ‘to bind’, ‘join together’

    52. LEOCHARIS m ancient Hellinic
    Sculptor – Deriving from ‘Leon’ = ‘lion’ and ‘charis’ = ‘grace’. Literally meaning the ‘lion’s grace’.

    53. DEINOKRATIS m ancient Hellinic
    Helped Alexander to create Alexandria in Egypt.
    From ‘deinow’ = ‘to make terrible’ and ‘kratein’ = “to rule”
    Obviously indicating a ‘terrible ruler’

    54. ADMETOS (Άδμητος) m Ancient Greek
    derive from the word a+damaw(damazw) and mean tameless,obstreperous.Damazw mean chasten, prevail

    55. ANDROTIMOS (Ανδρότιμος) m Ancient Greek
    derive from the words andreios (brave, courageous) and timitis(honest, upright )

    56. PEITHON m Ancient Greek
    Means “the one who persuades”. It was a common name among Macedonians and the most famous holders of that names were Peithon, son of Sosicles, responsible for the royal pages and Peithon, son of Krateuas, a marshal of Alexander the Great.

    57. SOSTRATOS m Ancient Greek
    Derives from the Greek words “Σως (=safe) +Στρατος (=army)”. He was son of Amyntas and was executed as a conspirator.

    58. DIMNOS m Ancient Greek
    Derives from the greek verb “δειμαίνω (= i have fear). One of the conspirators.

    59. TIMANDROS m Ancient Greek
    Meaning “Man’s honour”. It derives from the greek words “Τιμή (=honour) + Άνδρας (=man). One of the commanders of regular Hypaspistes.

    60. TLEPOLEMOS ,(τληπόλεμος) m Ancient Greek
    Derives from greek words “τλήμων (=brave) + πόλεμος (=war)”. In greek mythology Tlepolemos was a son of Heracles. In alexanders era, Tlepolemos was appointed Satrap of Carmania from Alexander the Great.

    61. AXIOS (Άξιος) m ancient Greek
    Meaning “capable”. His name was found on one inscription along with his patronymic “Άξιος Αντιγόνου Μακεδών”.

    62. THEOXENOS (Θεόξενος) ancient Greek
    Derives from greek words “θεός (=god) + ξένος (=foreigner).His name appears as a donator of the Apollo temple along with his patronymic and city of origin(Θεόξενος Αισχρίωνος Κασσανδρεύς).

    63. MITRON (Μήτρων) m ancient Greek
    Derives from the greek word “Μήτηρ (=Mother)”. Mitron of Macedon appears in a inscription as a donator

    64. KLEOCHARIS (Κλεοχάρης) M ancient greek
    Derives from greek words “Κλέος (=fame) + “Χάρις (=Grace). Kleocharis, son of Pytheas from Amphipoli was a Macedonian honoured in the city of Eretria at the time of Demetrius son of Antigonus.

    65. PREPELAOS (Πρεπέλαος) m, ancient Greek
    Derives from greek words “πρέπω (=be distinguished) + λαος (=people). He was a general of Kassander.

    66. HIPPOLOCHOS (Ιππόλοχος) m, ancient Greek
    Derives from the greek words “Ίππος” (= horse) + “Λόχος”(=set up ambush). Hippolochos was a Macedonian historian (ca. 300 B.C.)

    67. ALEXARCHOS (Αλέξαρχος) m, ancient Greek
    Derives from Greek “Αλέξω” (=defend, protect, help) + “Αρχος ” (= master). Alexarchos was brother of Cassandros.

    68. ASCLEPIODOROS (Ασκληπιοδορος) m Ancient Greek
    Derives from the greek words Asclepios (= cut up) + Doro (=Gift). Asclepios was the name of the god of healing and medicine in Greek mythology. Asclepiodoros was a prominent Macedonian, son of Eunikos from Pella. Another Asclepiodoros in Alexander’s army was son of Timandros.

    69. KALLINES (Καλλινης) m Ancient Greek
    Derives from greek words kalli + nao (=stream beautifully). He was a Macedonian, officer of companions.

    70. PLEISTARHOS (Πλείσταρχος) m ancient Greek
    Derives from the greek words Pleistos (=too much) + Arhos ((= master). He was younger brother of Cassander.

    71. POLYKLES (Πολυκλής) m ancient Greek
    Derives from the words Poli (=city) + Kleos (glory). Macedonian who served as Strategos of Antipater.

    72. POLYDAMAS (Πολυδάμας) m ancient Greek
    The translation of his name means “the one who subordinates a city”. One Hetairos.

    73. APOLLOPHANES (Απολλοφάνης) m ancient greek.
    His name derives from the greek verb “απολλυμι” (=to destroy) and φαίνομαι (= appear to be). Apollophanes was a prominent Macedonian who was appointed Satrap of Oreitae.

    74. ARCHIAS (Αρχίας) m ancient Greek
    His name derive from greek verb Άρχω (=head or be in command). Archias was one of the Macedonian trierarchs in Hydaspes river.

    75. ARCHESILAOS (Αρχεσίλαος) m ancient Greek
    His name derive from greek verb Άρχω (=head or be in command) + Λαος (= people). Archesilaos was a Macedonian that received the satrapy of Mesopotamia in the settlement of 323.

    76. ARETAS (Αρετας) m ancient Greek
    Derives from the greek word Areti (=virtue). He was commander of Sarissoforoi at Gaugamela.

    77. KLEANDROS (Κλέανδρος) m ancient Greek
    Derives from greek verb Κλέος (=fame) + Ανδρος (=man). He was commander of Archers and was killed in Hallicarnasus in 334 BC.

    78. AGESISTRATOS (Αγησίστρατος) m ancient greek
    Father of Paramonos, a general of Antigonos Doson. His name derives from verb ηγήσομαι ( = lead in command) + στρατος (= army). “Hgisomai” in Doric dialect is “Agisomai”. Its full meaning is “the one who leads the army”

    79. AGERROS (Αγερρος) M ancient Greek
    He was father of Andronikos, general of Alexander. His name derives from the verb αγέρρω (= the one who makes gatherings)

    80. AVREAS (Αβρέας) m ancient Greek
    Officer of Alexander the great. His name derives from the adj. αβρός (=polite)

    81. AGATHANOR (Αγαθάνωρ) m ancient Greek
    Som of Thrasycles. He was priest of Asklepios for about 5 years. His origin was from Beroia as is attested from an inscription. His name derives from the adj. αγαθός (= virtuous) + ανήρ (= man). The full meaning of his name is “Virtuous man”

    82. AGAKLES (Αγακλής) m ancient Greek
    He was son of Simmihos and was from Pella. He is known from a resolution of Aetolians. His name derives from the adj. Αγακλεής (= too glorious)

    83. AGASIKLES (Αγασικλής) m ancient Greek
    Son of Mentor, from Dion of Macedonia. It derives from the verb άγαμαι (= admire) + Κλέος (=fame). Its full meaning is “the one who admires fame”

    84. AGGAREOS (Αγγάρεος) m ancient Greek
    Son of Dalon from Amphipolis. He is known from an inscription of Amphipolis (S.E.G vol 31. ins. 616) It derives from the noun Αγγαρεία (= news)

    85. AGELAS (Αγέλας) m ancient Greek
    Son of Alexander. He was born during the mid-5th BCE and was an ambassador of Macedonians during the treaty between Macedonians and Atheneans. This treaty exists in inscription 89.vol1 Fasc.1 Ed.3″Attic inscrip.”
    His name was common among Heraclides and Bacchiades. One Agelas was king of Corinth during the first quarter of 5 BCE. His name derives from the verb άγω (= lead) and the noun Λαός (= people or even soldiers (Homeric)). The full meaning is the “one who leads the people/soldiers”.

    86. AGIPPOS (Άγιππος) m ancient Greek
    He was from Beroia of Macedonia and lived during middle 3rd BCE. He is known from an inscription found in Beroia where his name appears as the witness in a slave-freeing. Another case bearing the name Agippos in the Greek world was the father of Timokratos from Zakynthos. The name Agippos derives from the verb άγω (= lead) + the word ίππος (= Horse). Its full meaning is “the one who leads the horse/calvary”.

    87. AGLAIANOS (Αγλαϊάνος) m ancient Greek
    He was from Amphipolis of Macedonia (c. 4th BC) and he is known from an inscription S.E.G vol41., insc. 556
    His name consists of aglai- from the verb αγλαϊζω (= honour) and the ending -anos.

    88. AGNOTHEOS (Αγνόθεος) m ancient Greek
    Macedonian, possibly from Pella. His name survived from an inscription found in Pella between 300-250 BCE. (SEG vol46.insc.799)
    His name derives from Αγνός ( = pure) + Θεός (=God). The full meaning is “the one who has inside a pure god”

    89. ATHENAGORAS (Αθηναγόρας) m ancient Greek
    General of Philip V. He was the general who stopped Dardanian invasion in 199 BC. His name derives from the verb αγορά-ομαι (=deliver a speech) + the name Αθηνά (= Athena).

    90. PERIANDROS (Περίανδρος) m ancient Greek
    Son of the Macedonian historian Marsyas. His name derives from Περί (= too much) + άνηρ (man, brave). Its full meaning is “too brave/man”.

    91. LEODISKOS (Λεοντίσκος) m ancient Greek
    He was son of Ptolemy A’ and Thais, His name derives from Λέων (= lion) + the ending -iskos (=little). His name’s full etymology is “Little Lion”

    92. EPHRANOR (Ευφράνωρ) m ancient Greek
    He was General of Perseas. It derives from the verb Ευφραίνω (= delight). Its full meaning is “the one who delights”.

    93. DIONYSOPHON m Ancient Greek
    It has the meaning “Voice of Dionysos”. The ending -phon is typical among ancient greek names.

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    94. ANTIGONE f ancient Greek
    Usage: Greek Mythology
    Pronounced: an-TIG-o-nee
    Means ‘against birth’ from Greek anti ‘against’ and gone ‘birth’. In Greek legend Antigone was the daughter of Oedipus and Jocasta. King Creon of Thebes declared that her slain brother Polynices was to remain unburied, a great dishonour. She disobeyed and gave him a proper burial, and for this she was sealed alive in a cave. Antigone of Pydna was the mistress of Philotas, the son of Parmenion and commander of Alexander the Great’s Companion cavalry (Plutarch, Alexander, ‘The Lives of the Noble Grecians and Romans’).

    95. VOULOMAGA (Βουλομάγα) f ancient greek
    Derives from greek words “Βούλομαι (=desire) + άγαν (=too much)”. Her name is found among donators.

    96. ATALANTE (Αταλαντη) f ancient Greek
    Her name means in Greek “without talent”. She was daughter of Orontes, and sister of Perdiccas.

    97. AGELAEIA (Αγελαεία) f ancient Greek
    Wife of Amyntas, from the city of Beroia (S.E.G vol 48. insc. 738)
    It derives from the adj. Αγέλα-ος ( = the one who belongs to a herd)

    98. ATHENAIS (Αθηναϊς) f ancient Greek
    The name was found on an altar of Heracles Kigagidas in Beroia. It derives from the name Athena and the ending -is meaning “small”. Its whole meaning is “little Athena”.

    99. STRATONIKE f Ancient Greek (STRATONICE Latinized)
    Means ‘victorious army’ from stratos ‘army’ and nike ‘victory’. Sister of King Perdiccas II. “…and Perdiccas afterwards gave his sister Stratonice to Seuthes as he had promised.” (Thucydides, The Peloponnesian War, Chapter VIII)

    100. THETIMA f Ancient Greek
    A name from Pella Katadesmos. It has the meaning “she who honors the gods”; the standard Attic form would be Theotimē.



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    Little is known about the arrival of Proto-Greek speakers from the steppes. The Mycenaean culture commenced circa 1650 BCE and is clearly an imported steppe culture. The close relationship between Mycenaean and Proto-Indo-Iranian languages suggest that they split fairly late, some time between 2500 and 2000 BCE. Archeologically, Mycenaean chariots, spearheads, daggers and other bronze objects show striking similarities with the Seima-Turbino culture (c. 1900-1600 BCE) of the northern Russian forest-steppes, known for the great mobility of its nomadic warriors (Seima-Turbino sites were found as far away as Mongolia). It is therefore likely that the Mycenaean descended from Russia to Greece between 1900 and 1650 BCE, where they intermingled with the locals to create a new unique Greek culture.

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    Mycenaean(Seima- Turbino culture) vs Illyrians (Kurgan Culture). So no, at that time only Illyrians used tumulus in the Balkans.


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    You are definitely forgetting the Thracians. The Bulgarians and Greek archaeologists have been finding them all over the place. There are about 320 unexplored ones in Western Thrace alone and probably more in Bulgaria.

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    Little is known about the arrival of Proto-Greek speakers from the steppes. The Mycenaean culture commenced circa 1650 BCE and is clearly an imported steppe culture. The close relationship between Mycenaean and Proto-Indo-Iranian languages suggest that they split fairly late, some time between 2500 and 2000 BCE. Archeologically, Mycenaean chariots, spearheads, daggers and other bronze objects show striking similarities with the Seima-Turbino culture (c. 1900-1600 BCE) of the northern Russian forest-steppes, known for the great mobility of its nomadic warriors (Seima-Turbino sites were found as far away as Mongolia). It is therefore likely that the Mycenaean descended from Russia to Greece between 1900 and 1650 BCE, where they intermingled with the locals to create a new unique Greek culture.

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    And it seemed no great maruell that Amurath had bene vanquished, and dis∣comfited by the Albanois, to them who sawe so many warlike youthes, and the strength of those forces that were then with Scanderbeg. Then did it appeare that the ancient noblenesse and valour of that nation was returned into Macedonie: and those olde times long since past and gone, of Alexander and Pyrrhus, did seeme to be renu∣ed and restored againe.
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