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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus View Post
    It is important to know where was Macedonia, as you read here: https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=macedonia the name of Macedonia is from ancient Greek makros "long, large": https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%B...#Ancient_Greek from Proto-Indo-European *mh₂ḱros, cognate with Indo-Iranian masru "Egypt" (Egyptian Arabic masr, Mycenaean Greek misarajo).
    there can be 2 official well stated terminations,
    and a third possible via LPIE

    Α) tall nation, big body
    the primary tested one and certified means Tall,-big people
    that is also the explanation of Magnetas the brother of Makedonas
    Magnetas live south of Makedonas in East parts of Thessaly,
    compare Greek Megas-megalos means both Great-Big
    the edos-ednos -edonoi etc means cousins-nation etc, in attic and koine typical of Makedonian d-θ is ethnos εθνος
    so the possibility Mak-edon =tall nation

    B) long relatives, split clan
    the terminology of -ednos can also mean long cousin or split cousin from hive
    in that case all three Makednos Magnetas Mygdon means split-clan
    infact myg-don is the remnants of Brygians,
    Brygians older known homeland was today Dyrrachium,
    by the coming of illyrians-proprie, Brygian moved east and, south north of primary Makedonia, south of Paeonians, but from their cities, we see their cities and them living among other clans, like nextby village - but other people
    Then moved to Phrygia, the ones who left were called Mygdonεs, Μυγδονες
    Μυγ from Αμυς-αμυχη means split from scratch,

    C) the Armenian Hypothesis in Thracian (not certified)
    that is not attested, but it is possible,
    notice the Scotish clans have a Mc a Mac before their clan names,
    in Thracian vocabulary Muca ment the male youth, 'the sons' (see Duridanov)
    the word exist also in Armenian,
    so it is possible that Myssians, Myceneans, Makedonians, Mygdonians etc and other in Balkans and Asia minor mean (the sons of)
    it is a possible, but can not explain the secondary synthetic, as also
    I heard the above as alternative theory, but rejected from the same who proposed it.
    cause it should have a Mus if was Armeno-Tracian, and not -k or -g
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    Culturally ancient Macedonians were certainly a Hellenic people, an ancient Macedonian temple has been found in Masjid Soleyman in the southwest of Iran:




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    Quote Originally Posted by Leka View Post
    Makedon actually meant Highlander in Ancient Greek. Equivalent to the Albanian term ‘Malesor’.
    There is complete truth in your post.

    Not sure why someone thumbed it down.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik View Post

    I clearly stated in my previous post that when speaking of the real ancient Makedonians of the time of Philip, you modern Northern Macedonians are mostly a Paeonian-Slav mix, but of course you also have some Makedonian, Dardanian, Thracian, Illyrian, Brygian, etc.
    There was no slavs there at the time of Philip

    northern macedonians would be a Paeonian-Macedon mix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post

    So there is clearly great overlap between Macedonians and Albanians...
    Maybe this overlap started here

    Macedonian–Carthaginian Treaty was an anti-Roman treaty between Philip V of Macedon and Hannibal, leader of the Carthaginians, which was drawn up after the Battle of Cannae when Hannibal seemed poised to conquer Rome. Philip V, who feared Roman expansion, wanted to ride on the coat tails of the victor in the Second Punic War (218–201 BC). The discovery of this treaty inevitably led to the outbreak of the First Macedonian War (214–205 BC) between Rome and its Greek allies against Macedonia

    Rome had to stop macedonian supplies reaching Hannibal in Itlay from Macedonia's Albanian ports .................see map in link below


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Macedonian_War

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    Quote Originally Posted by torzio View Post
    There was no slavs there at the time of Philip

    northern macedonians would be a Paeonian-Macedon mix
    Really? Mind blown. :O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik View Post
    Really? Mind blown. :O

    Why Peonian-Macedon mix? Macedonian territory was like next to Nish (nowdays Serbia),anyways Peonians were Thraco-Illyrian,they were apsorbed in Macedonian Kingdom like many other illyrians and thracians, there were not pure nations, Macedonians had many thraco-macedonians, illyro-macedonians, thraco-illyrians, greco-macedonians, same with Greeks they were mix of many like Assyrians,Jews,Egyptians,Persians,Thracians,Macedo nians,Illyrians with Greeks...
    And many of barbarians (thracians,illyrians,macedonians) accepted Hellenism because in that time was like Religion , with already famous gods,laws and language with perspective, coine language in that time(greek nowdays) famous like english nowdays, wind in the back for barbarian traders...So like nowdays Orthodox Christianity , they r not same nation but workship same god and customs have same traditions...

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