Wrong has always been respectful and hes never used that shitty rhetoric like Abubu or Fustan
I dont know tbh, but it was 3 of them that would usually team against others like some pack of wild dogs, i dont hear about them since i left that low quality nut hole - TA. If i knew better i would leave it earlier.
Wrong is older, most likely he found girlfriend on TA so he normalized while these two are still unable to do so they have to shoot their frustrations online. But finding a job would help too..
I guess the experience is different. But I do vividly remember Fustan and Abubu attacking you as well, calling you Serb etc. They are your typical turncoat Albanians.
Because of their lack of understanding genetics or history. Also they were just trying to be malevolent, as they tried it with most of Albanians. Like its Albanians fault they have ****** up lifes in Scandinavia. I would have nothing against if i was Serb, just it was a deal because of Atanasije book (who claims Kosovo was 100% ethnically Serbian and Slavic prior to North Albanian 18 century expansion also specifically mentions my family in his book but also many other Albanian families too, like some Yugoslav Serb guy from 1930 can know more about my family history and who we are lol), otherwise i could not care less, for all i know they are much more Serbs then i am. Also prior to coming of Ottomans, looks like Albanians were going direction of slavicisation. Serbs assimilating this HG in areas of Austro Hungar (Croatian) Military frontier (Vojna Krajina), does not make this HG initially Serbian but rather recent arrival thru recent asimilation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Frontier
Trojet analysis regarding my HG from 2017:
Albeshri has actually done the BigY. He is also PH4306+ but splits immediately from this cluster, so he is about 4 thousand years apart. Here is the J2b1-M205 research tree, he is kit 265129:
http://tree.j2-m172.info/?Hg=J2b1
So you can see that even though he is GD 11/37 from you, he is in a different subclade from yours
PH4306>Y22066.
He also doesn't have
DYS392=12 which is characteristic of your cluster/subgroup of Y22066.
DYS437=14 is actually characteristic for all J2b1-M205 as I explained in one of my previous posts, not just your cluster (Y22066).
You do have DYS389II=27 and also DYS448=20, which so far are unique to you, as I told you when you first got the results. They are actually slower mutating markers, or less likely to mutate in a given timeframe. What they mean is that you're not related to any of the tested in the last 1000 years, but you are still within the same subgroup of Y22066 because of DYS392=12 and the closest matches at GD 6/37. If someone in the future shares those two markers that are unique to you and the GD is 4/37 or less, you can safely assume they are related within the last 700 years or so. I also have two unique markers from J2b2-PH1751 group at DYS19=15 and DYS392=10, but still proven by BigY that I belong within the same subgroup.
As for J2b1-M205 origin/expansion: It very likely originated in the area of Caucauses to northern Iran, just like any J2. But it had a long bottleneck, formed/originated 15800, TMRCA 5500:
https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-M205/
It seems at the time it expanded (5500 ybp), it made it to northern fertile crescent where it expanded from in Late Calcholithic to Early Bronze Age. This is the most probable place of expansion because we have evidence from Ancient DNA. J2b1-M205 was found in NW Jordan from ~4400 years ago, which is only about 1000 years after the expansion of all surviving lineages of J2b1-M205. Also the Roman Gladiator from England was found to be J2b1-M205 with autosomal components of a Middle Eastern.
http://j2-m172.info/2016/06/first-a...ant-bronze-age-lazaridis-et-al-first-farmers/
http://j2-m172.info/2016/01/exogeno...f-26-is-j2b1-m205-and-likely-middle-eastener/
In addition, J2b1-M205 has a strong presence and diversity in the general area of the Levant and close by, like Cyprus.
This raises the question when your cluster made it to the Balkans. Considering the above mentioned evidence, I would agree that most likely it came during the Roman Empire or perhaps early Byzantine period from the Middle East or close by, since also your founder's TMRCA is no more than ~1500 years, and that
it did not come with the Slavs. Although it's certainly possible that it came sooner than that and it was present among a Illyrian/Thracian tribe. For further refinement as to when it came, short of ancient DNA evidence, it would depend on more J2b1-M205 BigY results, or similar NGS results from scientific studies, and to see how far and where are the closest BigY/NGS matches to your cluster/subgroup (Y22066).
What did Laberia say? He does not understand genetics and he is afraid to test but he is cool guy actually, sometimes he talks too much, i doubt he said anything bad to you?
Look, im adult guy, i have kids and wife. My results mean nothing to anyone in real world. All this drama these kids made was just meaningful. And its not even important to anyone in real life. Not to mention it has nothing with reality, they were supporting Serbs just to backstab another Albanian. After all, they are only good at backstabbing. Do you know that when Hitler commented on Albanians he sayed in entire world he had to pay spies, only in Albania people were spying for free. Most people dont want to even talk about this because they are not interested in these things unlike me. I live in Croatian capital, and i have my own house and apartment. Im not connected to anyone or anything.
I dont have to prove myself to anyone, and those who know me, they know who i am. I have Albanian name and Muslim surname. My father has died, and i look after my mom. This is just fun to me and escape from sometimes intense reality to rest my brain.
Unlike Fustan and Abubu, i dont have to hang with Serbs and Montenegrin's on Discord trying to found out more about them, or to get a feeling to be closer to Balkans, especially because my work takes me often in Belgrade, Podgorica, Pishtina, Shkodra, and you have them all in Zagreb. Therefore i know all these people from first hand experience. I know Balkans like my hand. No one can lie me, they can all only lie themselves.
It would be best not to mention them anymore, and not waste energy on spoiled kids. There is plenty of other cool Albanians that you can hang with.
Just wanted to clear that out, also dont worry about me, living the life i have lived, it made me pretty tough. I am much more connected to reality, nothing like these Scandinavian roleplayers.
Who are these Kelmendi Albanians that you are talking about from South Serbia, Sanxhak - Novi Pazar ones?
Look at Albanian Bloodlines Project statistics:
http://www.gjenetika.com/statistikat/
There is 15 primary different haplogrups so far (E1b-V13, R1b-M269, J2b-L283, I2a1-M423, I1-M253, R1a-M417, I2a2-M223, J1-M267, J2a-M410, T1a-L131, G2aI2c-L596, J2b-M205, E1b-M81, E1b-V22), and most of them then even branch out to different groups.
All these people are Albanians today, but somehow they needed to come together. Can anyone say for any of these samples that he is not Albanian enough, or that someone is more Albanian then others? Or that someone worth's more then someone else only based on Ydna test? I think these things are measured with deeds and hearth, and not some genetic test lol.
Now when looking at these haplogroups i have to say that i would never trade J2b-M205 for any of them, i got used to it, i would fall in depression if i had to lol (joke), but on the other hand they are all fine. The only HG that i would dislike to carry is Romani hg H. as it can be seen, we have none in project so far.
