I agree with you for once. After all you and I are very likely related so you shouldn't join these t r o l l s against me. My Bosniak maternal paternal side very likely (not yet tested but strong documentary evidence exists) are from the vlach Ugarak tribe, and that is your grandmothers lineage right? But if so my mothers ancestry derives from the Ugarcic family befoe they entered Vlach status.
My K36 Europe and Asia
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I'm closer here to Scandinavians than Albanians. Also I'm not so close to Montenegrins at all.. That is because I have no proper Montnegrin admixture. My side is from Lim river, first time this territory entered Montenegro was in 1912. And this area around Bihor had more of the old population. I'm closer to West Ukrainians than Montegrins, and not only here but in other calculators often as well.
Look at Asia map, those dots at the top. 19 must be Nenets. That's the highest I've seen in any Bosniak/Serb. Russians have 20-21-22 Four dots below, upper ones seem to be some Uralic peoples. Upper left are I think Komi, upper right are Mansy or Khanty. Bottom, one might be Erzya because I've seen Erzya scoring very high there, and the other I'm not sure is it East Russian, Tatar or other Ugric whatever because I've seen various groups scoring high there. But my scores there are highest or among the highest that can be found in Bosniaks/Serbs. So I'm closer to Erzya than Albanians here.
At DNA.land I score 13 % Finnish
K47 with some interesting components such as West Finnic, Volgan and in MDLP K33 Finno-Ugric
Serb barbarylion you mentioned
West Finnic 5.39%
Volgan 0.04%
Finno Ugric 0.12%
Serb from Krajina, same clade as you. (Sunce) He's also more northern.
Volgan 0.00%
West Finnic 7.87%
Finno Ugric 3.85%
Russian woman
Volgan 2.37%
West Finnic 12.09%
Serb E-Z19851
Volgan 0.00%
West Finnic 3.66%
Bosniak, central Bosnia
Finno Ugric 1.14%
More Northern Serb
Volgan 2.56%
West Finnic 4.67%
Serb R-U152
West Finnic 7.94%
Volgan 0.00%
Finno Ugric 1.14%
Serb Kosovo
Volgan 1.91%
West Finnic 1.56%
Serb Bosnia
West Finnic 7.14%
Volgan 0.23%
Finno Ugric 1.87%
My score:
West Finnic 7.90%
Volgan 1.54%
Finno Ugric 3.93 (I think more than majority of Hungarians)
I most definitely have some elevated real Ugric admixture, that is not accidental because it repeats itself in different calculators.
As I explained many times my E-V13 clade has no connection to Shqiptars, and if I share a single SNP with Russians/Easterners and that is a very real possibility because two of these clades share with mine an unusual STR value since at least 1500-2000 years ago and unusual STR mutation means likely shared mutation, then my Y-DNA has nothing to do with the huge majority of other V13's from Early Iron Age until Medieval times. It would be like an R-Z93 clade in its migrations and ancient peoples connections.
Furthermore the evidence of some tribal traces I mentioned ultimately does point to descend of one group where some E-V13 might be expected to occur.
Even if it doesn't it still is Carpathian (so likely Dacian).
My grandmother (father's mother) is from Dobrijević family. Dobrijevići are of same origin as Miljevići, Rokvići and Trninići. All of them are R1b-U152 and originated from Herzegovinian Ugarci who were in vlach social status.
Dema tend to claim many nonsenses such as Vlach origin of Krajina Serbs (he think on Latin speaking paleo-Balkanites, not on social status vlachs) and Albanian origin of Serbs from southern Serbia. I agree with Dema only in his claim of Albanian origin of Sandžakian Muslims, majority of them are islamized Malesors.
Krajina Serbs are least paleo-Balkanic influenced Serbs. They ploting more northern not only than Montenegrins and southern Serbs, but also than Serbs from central Serbia and Vojvodina.
Here is full Barbarylion's K47 https://www.theapricity.com/forum/s...ija)-results&p=5869751&viewfull=1#post5869751
It's not surprise to me origin of your mother's family from Ugarci. Many Bosnian Muslims originated from Herzegovinian vlachs (social status). Ottomans settled them to Bosnia and gave them land and privilegies for conversion on Islam.
I bealive large part of I2a-Din among Bosnian Muslims is related with islamized Herzegovinian vlach. I2a-Din has a peak in Hergegovina where is stronger than in Bosnia. Dema's claim of 53% I2a-Din among Bosnian Muslims is outdated and came from small sample. Bosnian Muslims are more like 43% I2a-Din [video]https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?253441-Bosnian-Muslim-Y-DNA-results-(273-samples)[/video]
Among Muslims from Bosanska Krajina I2a-Din is lower than average, it's 37-38%. Except lower I2a-Din Bosanska Krajina Muslims have higher J2b1-M205 and N-P189.2 than other BiH Muslims. They also have some exotic hapogroups related with Anatolia in smaller % which doesn't exist among other BiH Muslims.
Your Finno-Ugric score might be related with islamized Hungarians. In late 17th century a lot of Muslim refugees from Hungary, Vojvodina and Slavonia arrived to Bosnia. Some of them were probably islamized Hungarians, and some of them setlled to Central Bosnia. Of course, it's well known that vast majority of them settled to northern and northeastern Bosnia.
What is your K13 Eurogenes and K12b Dodecad?
Here is result of full Montenegrin (very typical Montenegrin result), higher paleo-Balkanic dna than among Serbs (outside of Montenegro) is clear [video]https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?289080-Myheritage-and-GEDmatch-results[/video]