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    Quote Originally Posted by Christiaan View Post
    No, I simply don't agree with you. 95% of what happened in former Yugoslavia was caused by internal problems. Yugoslavia was not a Panama or Vietnam.
    The only problem with Yugoslavia were Albanians. How can a non Slavic population being incorporated in State they hated.
    Albanians played their part in blowing up that artificial creature called Yugoslavia.
    Religion was the other big thing. Because of religion Croats and Bosnia's saw themselves different.
    There were not spies or agents from the west. The west resisted temptations for Yugoslavians destruction,
    Serbia was the last one to contribute to Yugoslavia demise. Nationalism i Serbia was so sick that convinced everyone in Serbia that Serbs are the smartest guys in town. Eventually no one wanted to by that claim,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christiaan View Post
    No, I simply don't agree with you. 95% of what happened in former Yugoslavia was caused by internal problems. Yugoslavia was not a Panama or Vietnam.

    According to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslavia
    The country was formed in 1918 immediately after World War I as the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes by union of the State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs and the Kingdom of Serbia. It was commonly referred to at the time as the "Versailles state". Later, the government renamed the country leading to the first official use of Yugoslavia in 1929.

    The Kingdom of Yugoslavia was created by France and Great Britain, aimed at curbing the German expansion in the Balkans.
    After the WWII country became known as


    :The Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (SFR Yugoslavia or SFRY).
    After the fall of the Berlin Wall and the consequence collapse of communism,ceased to exist motive of creating this state, simultaneously serbian element in the federation sought to take primacy and steer the country towards Russia.
    So for these two reasons and others this artificial state can not continue to exist.

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    80 years after the creation of Yugoslavia I would say the war of the nineties was still 95% caused by internal problems and not by some recent external involvement, after all it means that 3 generations had lived there to figure it out to make it work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christiaan View Post
    80 years after the creation of Yugoslavia I would say the war of the nineties was still 95% caused by internal problems and not by some recent external involvement, after all it means that 3 generations had lived there to figure it out to make it work.




    When we talk about phenomena such as the disintegration of a state, we must take into account external factors and internal. We are discussing this particular case for a relatively small country, so the main factors are those outside. So at the moment that this country is abandoned the mission assigned, then ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christiaan View Post
    No, I simply don't agree with you. 95% of what happened in former Yugoslavia was caused by internal problems. Yugoslavia was not a Panama or Vietnam.
    I don't even expect you to agree. I guess you government could't admit to their own people how dirty they play here. The conclusions that you get are quite consistent with (wrong) ideas that you were implanted about fallout of Yugoslavia.

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    why not?
    YOU will embrace all european countries
    but never Russia
    it's too big to be embraced

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    I think yes,certainly Ukraine must and should be in the EU, because Ukraine is a Christian country and the EU is a Christian club,apart from being a European country,no more to say.

    I do not think it will come a day when we see a non-Christian country in the EU,in the issue of turkey, it's just a waste of time for the EU as for turkey (I think logical),turkey should think about building a Muslim club union with the countries of the Middle East/asian including Azerbeijan etc...,like us in the Maghreb Union.


    A weak country in the Muslim population as albania or kosovo,bosnia,maybe they become EU members (easier to control),but like turkey,Morocco,never,I know very well what is the EU.

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    Perhaps in a few years, but it certainly seems like for the immediate future they won't be. Unless of course some sort of agreement is reached between all sides regarding the issue of civil war and Russian/Western involvement.

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    At this moment I dont think Ukrain is ready to join. I am however convinced that they will eventually join. Atleast the parts that dont want to belong to Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacroix View Post
    At this moment I dont think Ukrain is ready to join. I am however convinced that they will eventually join. Atleast the parts that dont want to belong to Russia.
    Not ready but it will happen.

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    When I came across this: doubtingsteven .blogspot . com/2015/06/marat-qacem-about-gay-lobby-in-latvia . html I got it at last that I don't want Ukraine enter the EU.
    I can't share the EU so called values, that EuroPride and other of the sort! They are really disgusting!
    And it would be just a nightmare for me and many other Ukrainians, I bet you, if one day Kiev like Riga now "was entrusted the honor" of hosting some regular EuroPride!

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    They can't. As ing as half the country is Russian, they simply cannot.

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