but how you ask someone who lives from public or state help to pay taxes?
when Diogenes was infront of ferryman Hades, he said for the ticket price
ουκ αν λαβεις παρα του μη εχοντος,
you can not take something from someone that has nothing,
these people mostly rent a house or a flat, to sleep 7-8-10 people, they live by public help and unemployment salaries,
want estimation?
> 2 000 000 in Greece after olympic games
>4 000 000 live with 50 days work stamps,
from the above half are Greeks, but the rest are immigrants.
most of them eat in church or majors food coupons, how you will collect taxes from them?
some of them will be glad to go to prison in winter, cause it is warm and good food,
media and cinema show them a paradise that they may have the chance to be rich,
or you will collect taxes from their properties in another country,
yes I believe in taxes to the ones who have, but no one can take something from the one that does not have.
to be more specific with numbers,
a country has 10 M and a ballance,
has 4 % unemployment,
it can absorve some immigration, lets say 1 M
country becomes more unbalanced and public spends for help must be cut or raise taxes,
unemployment reaches 10%
put another 1 million fast, more taxes to the 1rst 10 M, lees public health, smugglers start commerce violence and crime raise, and unemployment reach 15%
put another 1 million, taxes start to struggle the first 10 M, public help becomes no help, but a joke, crime raises, red allert for society, unemployment 20%
put another 1 M, first 10 M react, either sell all cause taxes are very high, and move away, either sell and start living like immigrants, in misery conditions asking for public help, (early industrial era). no ones pays taxes cause all sold or cheap,
immigrants getto and political unions raise, the country is not balanced but in a mood for trouble cause unemployment is 25%, crime is at height, goverments start to borrow money from bankers, or start wars to gain, or hrash salaries, in order not to debt,
so a well balanced country with colour and culture, became problematic, no colour, no culture, or just getto and whores culture by uncontrolled immigration.
well the 1rst country is no more the same country, people moved to another, or all became victims of Bankers and slave merchants,
minorities start to make law their culture, and an inner war starts,
well the only we achieve is to destroy a country, make its cities Bronx and NY, drug dealers smugglers and crime every where, but we All Drink Coca-cola, and eat hamburgers, (the fake American Dream, not the real one)
uncontroled and illegal immigrations creates geto and cities inside cities, with all the rest of what that means,
in my last visit to Venice, I thought I was in an Indian bazaar than Rialto,
uncontroled and illegal immigration helps only Banks, Industry sharks, Fortune hunters, and non tax payers,
and creates unemployment, cultural problems, social troubles, and raises public spend and taxes
while decreases public health insurance.
instead of doing the nearby countries like EU (free mind and speech, educated) we are making EU like the countries of immigrants (burka wear, no school for girls etc).
Ask an immigrant, about his country, he will tell you it is paradise,
ask him why he came, he will tell to work
the paradise he lived did not had work for him?
in country of 15% unemployment immigration starts to be a problem.until january, Greeks did not pay tax for a small house of less 100 m2 if it was their only fortune, and if a field smaller than 4 000 m2,
after january, with hrash of salaries even a small house of 50 m2 must pay tax,
000 of houses are to sold, but no one buys them, cause simply immigrants do not want to buy them and pay tax, cause rent by 7 is cheaper.
that decision raise Nazism in greece to 4% in Athens municipal which was never above 0,5% after WW2
that is a true story,
a child born costs 3500-10 000 E average according demands,
an immigrant with green card, brought his wife at 8,5 months pregnancy and send her to born in municipal hospital, with no health insurance, hospital send her away since had at least 1 week and told her to go back,
the next day 50 rioters gather and make troubles and attack doctor and manager,
the case became wide spread, police judges, even the municipal officer came,
the result, the man pay only 50 E he had and the rest from the municipal, to stop troubles,
3500 E from tax payers went away for a clever immigrant, who with out pay any stamp manage with threat to make Greek citizens to pay for child birth,
think unemployed citizen with 1 small house of 50m2 pay taxes for immigrant that has work, and don't have stamps, simply out of mind,
is that multicultural Europe you want?
italian pizza with arabian bread, chinese Gouda cheese, russian ham, argentina bacon, and african mushrooms?