The Haplogroup E in Europe.

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Carlitos said:
At the wedding of the heir to the throne of Morocco, the Swedish press confused Lala Salma with Rania of Jordan.
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And what?

Rania of Jordan is a beautiful woman.




Salma Lala and Rania are not darker than the average in Spain.
 
¿Has sido feliz los años que has estado trabajando en España?, ¿Finalmente te echaron, te cumplió el visado quizá?
 
Ferreira said:
Participate to say that ... Do you want to destroy the forum because the genetic study is not what you expected?
How old are you, 5, 10?
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Look clown, you are the one who is infantile. You know zero about population genetics. Everyone who is well informed is well aware that Spaniards have overwhelming European genetic affinities. Higher than many other Euro countries. You're sick. Mex.
 
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Ferreira said:
You are so ignorant! The two last men are Los Morancos, two famous regular comedians on Spanish television. They are Andalusians, and are so atypical that used to play jokes with an English accent, making a joke of being English.
The girls with regional clothes could be from souther Spain or Norther Morocco. We know they are from Andalucia only because of their clothes.


You do not realize, unaware that your ignorance, for every picture of a blond Spanish I can get 100000 photos of dark haired spanish.

Also in Arab countries, including Morocco, there are people with lighter features. Lala Salma, wife of King of Morocco.
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She's Amazigh. Her phenotype is not common in Morocco. Amazighs descend from the original Eurasian Berbers, ostensibly the first peoples of N. Africa (spreading M-81). Amazigh tribes today make up only about 20% of Morocco's population. Your standard Moroccan certainly does not look like her.
 
Ferreira said:
There is no such consensus. That's what you want to believe. The Muslims ruled southern Spain for 8 centuries, and they were in Spain not as slaves but as masters. Do you think they were all gays? they did not have relations with women in the Iberian Peninsula? Hahaha.
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Show us genius. Go ahead and continue to make a complete fool of yourself, Mexman. Do you think autosomal DNA research lies? You are truly pitiful.
 
Ferreira said:
There is no such consensus. That's what you want to believe. The Muslims ruled southern Spain for 8 centuries, and they were in Spain not as slaves but as masters. Do you think they were all gays? they did not have relations with women in the Iberian Peninsula? Hahaha.
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Read the body of research, turkey You're not a population geneticist, just a deranged t-r-o-l-l passing on misinformation. No intelligent person on this forum supports your tendentious, idiotic notions. Find another sandbox to crap up.
 
Excellent exposition Ferreira, as usual. In 900 years of occupation is obvious that the muslim had a lot of fun with the local women.

It's unfortunate that the rest of your countrymen are in denial.
 
Berbers are genetically different form the common North Africans. However, they are not comparable as Europeans. I read somewhere that their light features came directly from Cro-Magnons, wich seemed to be fair skinned, blond and light eyed.

By the way Canek, you are the only who is in denial with the fact showed in admixture analysis. ¿Why don't you say anything about Dodecad or Eurogenes? oh yes, it throws down all your stupid theories, I see XD.
 
Ferreira said:
This map explains it better. The highest concentrations are found in the Algerian Sahara and Morocco. In Europe, only Portugal and Spain has a strong presence, as in Italy and France only occurs in very specific places, and it is not so important overall.


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I'm not sure if you think that we are blind or as dull as you are, but anyone can clearly see purple almost all over Italy in this map that you quite contradictorily keep spamming in your silly & useless anti-Spanish quest. Just for trying to insult the intelligence of the general audience here, you and your stooge/sockpuppet ("Canek") deserve to be banned.
 
Dumb and dumber, Ferreira's second head. You obviously know little about Iberian history
 
Grey Moss said:
Dumb and dumber, Ferreira's second head. You obviously know little about Iberian history
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Grey Moss you lives in another planet.

The vast majority of Spanish people are brunette or dark brown hair. Stop being a fool and accept reality.
 
Ferreira said:
Grey Moss you lives in another planet.

The vast majority of Spanish people are brunette or dark brown hair. Stop being a fool and accept reality.
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Listen, mountebank, who said anything about hair color? Are you on drugs?
 
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Actually, just about all Iberian mt-DNA is European. H, the most common European mt-DNA haplogroup, is very high. About 54% in Spain and 44.5% in Portugal. Also, ancient H clade percentages are significant for both countries along with U frequencies.
 
That's because arab didn't bring women to Iberian... they rapped spanish women... you are strongly "african" in your Y-DNA fact... more than european. It's a FACT. :cool-v:
 
Canek said:
That's because arab didn't bring women to Iberian... they rapped spanish women... you are strongly "african" in your Y-DNA fact... more than european. It's a FACT. :cool-v:
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Lying clown, the haplogroup that you pretend to label as "Arab/African" is only about 5-6% of the Y-DNA pool of Spain. Apparently you not only do not understand about history and genetics but also basic math does not seem to be your thing either.
 
Canek said:
That's because arab didn't bring women to Iberian... they rapped spanish women... you are strongly "african" in your Y-DNA fact... more than european. It's a FACT. :cool-v:
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FACT!? Canek, you must be living in an alternative universe. Do you actually believe the entire world is brain dead? First, haplogroups reveal only migrational impact over centuries and in no way reflect FULL HEREDITY. Second, Y-DNA J1 (semitic - Arab / Jewish) is extremely low in Spain (1%) and registers just slightly higher in Portugal (< 3%). The average for the ENTIRE Peninsula is < 2%. Third, Y-DNA (E3b) comprises only about half of total E in Iberia (~ 4% for Spain) and, according to most research findings, dates from the Mesolithic / Neolithic period. DNA that ancient has virtually no bearing on phenotype. Only a very low amount of M-81 can be attributed to the Muslim invasions.

Why, for instance, do the Pasiegos in Asturias, who have the highest frequencies of E3b (M-81) in all of Iberia, genetically cluster closer to Northern Europeans? I think the answer is pretty obvious.

You are a mendacious mountebank, intent on presenting Spaniards as something other they what they are. That is clearly RACIST behavior. Like your other head (Ferreira) you have zero credibility.
 
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Ferreira said:
Interesting file about Pasiegos (population of Valle del Pas, Cantabria, Northern Spain).

http://www.mitochondrial.net/showabstract.php?pmid=12914567

Valle del Pas is the only place in Europe where the haplogroup E subclade E-M81 subclade exceeds 20%.
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This study is nearly a decade old, an eternity in genetic science. In any case, most M-81 in Iberia has been researched by any number of geneticists as being ancient (Mesolithic / Neolithic). Pasiegos actually cluster closer to N. Europeans and they have nothing to do genetically with North African groups.
 
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Grey Moss said:
This study is nearly a decade old, an eternity in genetic science. In any case, most M-81 has been researched by any number of geneticists as being ancient (Mesolithic / Neolithic). Pasiegos actually cluster closer to N. Europeans and they have nothing to do genetically with North African groups.
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If you don't believe in genetics, why do you participate in a forum about Genetic?
It's funny.
 
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