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    You suffer alucinations t.r.o.l.l. I don't need to hide in a false identity like you do. As I said, everybody who joins 23andme can check my identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferreiro_ View Post
    You are very childish. Why are you still here?
    Excuse me while I LMFAO! You are perhaps the biggest clown I have encountered on any genetics or biological anthropology forum. Again, we know who you are, little guy.

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    Unfortunately for you this is a democratic forum. And all data are published on Internet, scientific data. Don't you like it? Well it's your problem. I have no insecurity about it.

    I guess you'd love that there were not haplogroups E or T in Spain, but that's not my fault.

    If you do not believe in the scientific data about the Y-DNA why are you taking part in these forums? I don't believe about creationist, and thus I do not participate in forums about creationism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferreiro_ View Post
    Unfortunately for you this is a democratic forum. And all data are published on Internet, scientific data. Don't you like it? Well it's your problem. I have no insecurity about it.
    Sure, you can post anything you want and make ludicrous statements too. There may even be a few dolts here who will take you seriously.

    Why don't you post all the autosomal studies that have been done on Iberians and other Europeans. Y-DNA and mt-DNA do NOT determine phenotype, AUTOSOMAL DNA does. Stop with the C-R-A-P. Everyone with half a brain knows what you are trying to do. It doesn't work because you are concentrating on a very small part of the puzzle, and exaggerating on top of it all. Give it up, already.

    Go the the Eurogenes Ancestry Project site to begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferreiro_ View Post
    Where is Drac in this forum about Y-DNA? I missed a message? hahaha.
    Fool!!!
    Not Y-DNA, duffus, light hair studies in Spain. That's what Drac posted. Man, you are either exceedingly thick or living in an alternative universe. How many forums have you polluted with your BS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Moss View Post
    Sure, you can post anything you want and make ludicrous statements too. There may be even a few dolts here who will take you seriously.

    Why don't you post all the autosomal studies that have been done on Iberians and other Europeans. Y-DNA and mt-DNA do NOT determine phenotype, AUTOSOMAL DNA does. Stop with the C-R-A-P. Everyone with half a brain knows what you are trying to do. It doesn't work because you are concentrating on a very small part of the puzzle and exaggerating on top of it all. Give it up, already.

    Go the the Eurogenes Ancestry Project site to begin.
    Because this forum is for Y-DNA

    Y-DNA
    Y-DNA
    Y-DNA

    we'll see if a moderator can explain it to you. I'm tired of repeating over and over again, and the poor boy do not understand it.

    Since you have much interest in the autosomal, you can open a forum about it in the thread of general genetics.

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    [QUOTE=Ferreiro_;375227]Because this forum is for Y-DNA

    Y-DNA
    Y-DNA
    Y-DNA

    No it is NOT a Y-DNA forum, genius. There is a genetics section on Eupedia that covers ANYTHING having to do with the European genome. Even people like Maciamo write about autosomal DNA research. Any person with a modest amount of genetics knowledge knows quite well that only autosomal DNA determines physical appearance.

    Man you are truly nuts.

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    [QUOTE=Grey Moss;375228]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferreiro_ View Post
    Because this forum is for Y-DNA

    Y-DNA
    Y-DNA
    Y-DNA

    No it is NOT a Y-DNA forum, genius. There is a genetics section on Eupedia that covers ANYTHING having to do with the European genome. Even people like Maciamo write about autosomal DNA research. Any person with a modest amount of genetics knowledge knows quite well that only autosomal DNA determines physical appearance.

    Man you are truly nuts.
    But you did not say you were going out of this forum? you go or stay?

    Anyway,
    Y-DNA
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    [QUOTE=Ferreiro_;375229]
    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Moss View Post

    But you did not say you were going for this forum? you go or stay?
    You mean thread, don't you? The Eupedia forum covers ANYTHING genetic.

    You can talk about Y-DNA from now until eternity, but please don't make it seem like it determines phenotype. Any professional population geneticist would laugh at anyone who connects Y-DNA with phenotype. I know a Norwegian who is light as snow who tested as J1. Believe me, he doesn't look anything like an Arab.

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    [QUOTE=Grey Moss;375230]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferreiro_ View Post

    You mean thread, don't you? The Eupedia forum co vers ANYTHING genetic.

    You can talk about Y-DNA from now until eternity, but please don't make it seem like it determines phenotype. Any professional population geneticist would laugh at anyone who connects Y-DNA with phenotype. I know a Norwegian who is light as snow who tested as J1. Believe me, she doesn't look anything like an Arab.
    I speak what I please, and you're not who to tell me what I have to say. This is a democratic forum, Galicia is my land, and I speak of haplogroups of Galicia because I want so. If you don't like the post, do not go into it.

    I do not care about the appearance of that Norwegian man. If you want to continue to dream that we Galician are nordics it's your problem, but I always say you the same: You're a fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Moss View Post
    You mean thread, don't you? The Eupedia forum covers ANYTHING genetic.

    You can talk about Y-DNA from now until eternity, but please don't make it seem like it determines phenotype. Any professional population geneticist would laugh at anyone who connects Y-DNA with phenotype. I know a Norwegian who is light as snow who tested as J1. Believe me, she doesn't look anything like an Arab.
    If she tested positive for any Y-DNA, then the fact that it is Haplogroup J1 is the least of her worries.

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    He likes "t.r.o.l.l.i.n.g", but he don't wants to be "trolled". Poor man, what a bad thing so! jajaja

    Funny post you created. Congratulations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knovas View Post
    He likes "t.r.o.l.l.i.n.g", but he don't wants to be "trolled". Poor man, what a bad thing so! jajaja

    Funny post you created. Congratulations
    I don't care your opinion.
    All data are published on Internet, and are scientific data:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galician_people

    Adams SA, Bosch E, Balaresque PL, Ballereau SJ, Lee AC, Arroyo E, López-Parra AM, Aler M, Gisbert Grifo MS, Brion M, Carracedo A, Lavinha J, Martínez-Jarreta B, Quintana-Murci Ll, Picornell A, Ramon M, Skorecki K, Behar DM, Calafell F, Jobling MA (2008),The Genetic Legacy of Religious Diversity and Intolerance: Paternal Lineages of Christians, Jews, and Muslims in the Iberian Peninsula, The American Journal of Human Genetics 83, doi:10.1016/j.ajhg.2008.11.007

    You can go to smiling. You are only a fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkey View Post
    If she tested positive for any Y-DNA, then the fact that it is Haplogroup J1 is the least of her worries.
    Obviously I meant he...oops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferreiro_ View Post
    I don't care your opinion.
    All data are published on Internet, and are scientific data:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galician_people

    Adams SA, Bosch E, Balaresque PL, Ballereau SJ, Lee AC, Arroyo E, López-Parra AM, Aler M, Gisbert Grifo MS, Brion M, Carracedo A, Lavinha J, Martínez-Jarreta B, Quintana-Murci Ll, Picornell A, Ramon M, Skorecki K, Behar DM, Calafell F, Jobling MA (2008),The Genetic Legacy of Religious Diversity and Intolerance: Paternal Lineages of Christians, Jews, and Muslims in the Iberian Peninsula, The American Journal of Human Genetics 83, doi:10.1016/j.ajhg.2008.11.007

    You can go to smiling. You are only a fool.
    OMG, that ridiculous Adams "study" that has been debunked sooooo many times! Even some of the scientists involved in the work don't support the findings anymore. Man, you really have no idea what you are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Moss View Post
    OMG, that ridiculous Adams "study" that has been debunked sooooo many times! Even some of the scientists involved in the work don't support the findings anymore. Man, you really have no idea what you are talking about.
    If you have better study, then you can share with us. But you won't do it, because similar results in all studies from Galicia.
    I know the story, when it comes to haplogroup E or T you try to discredit every study.
    No problem if the study would give the result that we only have haplogroup R, but that's unreal, it just happens in your imagination.

    You have 205 messages, but I have not seen any message from you with a link to a scientific study. Not once.

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    [QUOTE=Ferreiro_;375247]If you have better study, then you can share with us. But you won't do it, because similar results in all studies from Galicia.
    I know the story, when it comes to haplogroup E or T you try to discredit every study.
    No problem if the study would give the result that we only have haplogroup R, but that's unreal, it just happens in your imagination.

    Of course there is E in Galicia, also T. So what? Does that mean Galicians look like mixed Berber Arabs or Ethiopians. LMAO! Stop already.

    The Adams study is a disaster. Not only are some of the samples questionable, their math is totally wrong. They call themselves scientists? There is a long discussion here and elsewhere on Adams et al. Of course, the racist dolts that moderate the Spanish People site on WIKI love Adams et al. However, they hate autosomal research so much they delete any such studies. ahahahahahaha.

    Check he Eurogenes plot I posted for a link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferreiro_ View Post
    If you have better study, then you can share with us. But you won't do it, because similar results in all studies from Galicia.
    I know the story, when it comes to haplogroup E or T you try to discredit every study.
    No problem if the study would give the result that we only have haplogroup R, but that's unreal, it just happens in your imagination.

    Of course there is E in Galicia, also T. So what? Does that mean Galicians look like mixed Berber Arabs or Ethiopians. LMAO! Stop already.

    The Adams study is a disaster. No only are some of the samples questionable, their math is totally wrong. They call themselves scientists? There is a long discussion here and elsewhere on Adams et al. Of course, the racist dolts that moderate the Spanish People site on WIKI love Adams et al. However, they hate autosomal research so much they delete any such studies. ahahahahahaha.

    Check he Eurogenes plot I posted for a link.
    I have no said that galician look like mixed berber arabs or Ethiopians. Fool!!!
    But like it or not, there are Galician so brunette that they could be confused with an inhabitant of northern Morocco. Sorry if it bothers you, but that's not my problem.

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    [QUOTE=Ferreiro_;375256]
    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Moss View Post

    I have no said that galician look like mixed berber arabs or Ethiopians. Fool!!!
    But like it or not, there are Galician so brunette that they could be confused with an inhabitant of northern Morocco. Sorry if it bothers you, but that's not my problem.
    I've never seen an indigenous Galego like that; not in Tuy, Vigo, Santiago, Ferrol, Ourense, A Coruna... Probably part Gypsy or part Amerindian or someone of Moroccan descent who happens to live there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferreiro_ View Post
    Galicia is paradoxical because it is reputed to be the most genuinely celtic region in Spain, and yet the percentage of haplogroup R1b is relatively low. It also has a reputation as the region of Spain with the highest percentage of light hair and blue eyes. Well, I can say that after traveling for the rest of Spain this is true, but the difference is very subtle.
    In my opinion blondism is closely linked with haplogroup I than with haplogroup R1b, and in Galicia there is the highest prevalence of haplogroup I (M253). That might explain that light hair is slightly higher than in the rest of Spain, although I notice that most of the Galician are brown haired or brunette.

    False. I already showed you before that pigmentation surveys of Spain show that the lightest eyed and haired areas are in northeastern Spain, not the northwest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferreiro_ View Post
    I know the story, when it comes to haplogroup E or T you try to discredit every study.
    But that's actually what you desperately try to do when it comes to your REAL ancestral homeland (Italy) You are so clumsy you don't realize that these haplogroups are actually more common among them than among your much envied and resented Spaniards.

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    I told him he was using erroneous sources . However, he prefers to remain clown and clueless for life. No hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knovas View Post
    I told him he was using erroneous sources . However, he prefers to remain clown and clueless for life. No hope.
    Put you the correct sources. But you won't do it, because you don't have any source.
    You are an ignorant and a fool. The same goes to Drac.

    All you do is try to discredit those scientific studies that goes against your delusional dream. But people are not stupid, and now everyone knows your tactics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drac View Post
    But that's actually what you desperately try to do when it comes to your REAL ancestral homeland (Italy) You are so clumsy you don't realize that these haplogroups are actually more common among them than among your much envied and resented Spaniards.

    How terrible it must be for you the presence of E-M81 or haplogroup T in Spain. It's your problem, not mine. Payaso.

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    Look at the Eupidia averages, insane!!!

    How much haplogroup T do you see in Spain to make it significant? Why don't you say anything about other countries?

    What a profesional clown, my god xd

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